For sale: Fathom

Wish I didn't have common sense or I'd be all over this one.
Glwts.

#18 6 years ago

EAB

eabundy

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I don't get it. Sorry to crap on the post. Can someone explain how this is worth 7500?

#19 6 years ago

TOM

pinballinreno

Computer Extreme

9y 134K 15,510 31

Quoted from eabundy:
I don't get it. Sorry to crap on the post. Can someone explain how this is worth 7500?

Desire is a powerful thing...

#20 6 years ago

JCC

shacklersrevenge

Quoted from pinballinreno:
Desire is a powerful thing...

Who desires to throw money out the window?

#21 6 years ago

PAC

PACMAN

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Popularity and scarcity has driven the price up.

#22 6 years ago

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jgentry

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Quoted from eabundy:
I don't get it. Sorry to crap on the post. Can someone explain how this is worth 7500?

$7500 is the asking price. Doesn't mean it will sell for that but it's not an overly uncommon price for a restored fathom. Also having a nice original BG is a big plus on these. Although not as important as it used to be with the recent PPS release. It's pretty simple, it's a hard to find, low production game, that is highly desired, and it's fully restored.

#23 6 years ago

JCC

shacklersrevenge

Quoted from PACMAN:
Popularity and scarcity has driven the price up.

Ignorance and stupidity has too.

#24 6 years ago

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jgentry

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Quoted from shacklersrevenge:
Ignorance and stupidity has too.

If someone wants it and can afford it why do you care. I'm sure you've never spent any money on something stupid before.

#25 6 years ago

EAB

eabundy

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Quoted from jgentry:
$7500 is the asking price. Doesn't mean it will sell for that but it's not an overly uncommon price for a restored fathom. Also having a nice original BG is a big plus on these. Although not as important as it used to be with the recent PPS release. It's pretty simple, it's a hard to find, low production game, that is highly desired, and it's fully restored.

My issue is the parts to make a trashed fathom nice are still around if you know where to look, this fathom is NOT mint. It's pretty damn nice, but when you put it next to a NIB Jersey Jack or LE Stern game I don't get it. Now if HEP did this restore I could see the asking price. But this is NOT a HEP restore, or near his quality by any means.

GLWYS

#26 6 years ago

JCC

shacklersrevenge

Quoted from jgentry:
If someone wants it and can afford it why do you care. I'm sure you've never spent any money on something stupid before.

Well actually, I bought a 5th Gen Camaro and blew the engine in it for the same money as this Fathom- does that count?

#27 6 years ago

PAC

PACMAN

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Lol. This whole forum and hobby is about stupid, over priced luxury items. You new?

#28 6 years ago

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jgentry

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Quoted from eabundy:
My issue is the parts to make a trashed fathom nice are still around if you know where to look, this fathom is NOT mint. It's pretty damn nice, but when you put it next to a NIB Jersey Jack or LE Stern game I don't get it. Now if HEP did this restore I could see the asking price. But this is NOT a HEP restore, or near his quality by any means.
GLWYS

Base game will be 3500-4000, playfield is another 1k. Add in another 500-1500 for parts, etc. Add in labor and you get there pretty quick. I'm not saying this game is or is not worth $7500 but its certainly a lot harder to obtain then any stern or JJP game. If it was HEP restore it would cost a lot more then $7500.

#29 6 years ago

JCC

shacklersrevenge

Quoted from PACMAN:
Lol. This whole forum and hobby is about stupid, over priced luxury items. You new?

500+ pins through my door frames, I'd say I'm anything but new.

#30 6 years ago

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jgentry

Pinside member

Quoted from shacklersrevenge:
Well actually, I bought a 5th Gen Camaro and blew the engine in it for the same money as this Fathom- does that count?

Sure does, but I bet you had a hell of a good time.

#31 6 years ago

MRC

Capinball

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8y 79,550 489 15

Hate to be the price pumping police but, dear god, look at how many of you people commenting own a fathom. Pump the brakes and speak to the game being good but don't exaggerate the price as being good.

#32 6 years ago

EAB

eabundy

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If I'm paying over 5k for an 80s bally, I would like to assume the cabinet would be free of planking, the switches adjusted properly, all the lights working, and the spinner wouldn't look like it came off a world warI battlefield. But thats just me.

I get the desire vs value vs demand in this hobby, I've bought and sold hundreds of machines, but I take pride in giving someone VALUE when it's time to for it to leave. Where exactly is the value in this? To me, it's like here is a hard to find machine, now BEND OVER if you really want it..

#33 6 years ago

CBS

roar

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Hamilton, ON

8y 70,050 1,796 1 15

Quoted from eabundy:
If I'm paying over 5k for an 80s bally, I would like to assume the cabinet would be free of planking, the switches adjusted properly, all the lights working, and the spinner wouldn't look like it came off a world warI battlefield. But thats just me.
I get the desire vs value vs demand in this hobby, I've bought and sold hundreds of machines, but I take pride in giving someone VALUE when it's time to for it to leave. Where exactly is the value in this? To me, it's like here is a hard to find machine, now BEND OVER if you really want it..

This doesn't read like someone sorry to crap on a post. Probably could have just lead with this.

#34 6 years ago

EAB

eabundy

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Quoted from roar:
This doesn't read like someone sorry to crap on a post. Probably could have just lead with this.

Agreed, will do next time.

#35 6 years ago

SDS

whthrs166

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Arvada, CO

10y 93,050 4,526 12

What a nice example for the next remake after the next remake!

#36 6 years ago

PAC

PACMAN

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Must be a huge room behind that door.

Quoted from shacklersrevenge:
500+ pins through my door frames, I'd say I'm anything but new.

#37 6 years ago

PAC

PACMAN

Pinside member

You forgot the beat up apron and the missing original instruction cards and missing coin door decal.

This is a $5500 game to me, give or take. Maybe higher if i was actually hunting for one of these but i'm not since i already have one.

Quoted from eabundy:
If I'm paying over 5k for an 80s bally, I would like to assume the cabinet would be free of planking, the switches adjusted properly, all the lights working, and the spinner wouldn't look like it came off a world warI battlefield. But thats just me.
I get the desire vs value vs demand in this hobby, I've bought and sold hundreds of machines, but I take pride in giving someone VALUE when it's time to for it to leave. Where exactly is the value in this? To me, it's like here is a hard to find machine, now BEND OVER if you really want it..

#38 6 years ago

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jgentry

Pinside member

Quoted from Capinball:
Hate to be the price pumping police but, dear god, look at how many of you people commenting own a fathom. Pump the brakes and speak to the game being good but don't exaggerate the price as being good.

If this is directed at me I never commented on the price being good other then saying it's not that unusual. The condition and quality of the restore will decide what it's worth as people will be picky with one listed at the upper end of the range. Restored Fathoms bringing $7500 is not all that rare at all. People will have to decide for themselves what this one is worth. I saw a really nice one last year at TPF that was a 1 year old super nice restore that went for the low 5's. I've seen others just finished up go for $6500-8000 pretty much in the blink of an eye. Some crazy high end ones have brought over 10K in the last year or so. It's a desirable game but like always the market will determine what it's actually worth.

#39 6 years ago

SBS

o-din

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11y 158K 58,784

I for one, can't fathom this price.

#40 6 years ago

DAD

fiberdude120

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10y 78,650 3,369 4

If I knew you were gonna sell this I may not have sold you that playfield. GLWS bump.

#41 6 years ago

Blackbeard

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12y 106K 12,105 6 20

To me, Fathom is just Flash on juice.

I love the standups, but the pin itself doesn't do much for me.

GLWTS op

#42 6 years ago

KIM

Mr68

Pinside+ Frequent

Boulder, CO

12y 150K 8,645

Quoted from o-din:
I for one, can't fathom this price.

Whoa, thats deep.

#43 6 years ago

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snaroff

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Jupiter, FL

11y 93,800 5,830 15

Man, the seller listed it "OBO". Even if the listing price is on the high side (which is hard to determine with the photos above), nice Fathom's don't come up very often. A-list 80's pin restorations are in high demand. I could sell by Centaur and Fathom for 7k-ish with no problem (I've been solicited many times over the past couple years). The trick with 80's pins restorations is dialing them in. For Fathom, it took me a year to get it to play exactly how I wanted. The implicit drop targets were state-of-the-art for this time period (i.e. drops that can be programmed to drop without striking them). Fairly complex under the hood...

For those of you that have never restored a pin, it's EXPENSIVE...let's say a base game cost 3k. Add 2-3k in parts and 2k labor. 7-8k. Unlikely anyone is getting rich at this price!

snaroff

#44 6 years ago

DOG

Whysnow

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12y 187K 35,338 30 1

I would say a base fathom core is 4k right nowand that is if you can even find one...

It is easy to then crunch numbers on a restoration and parts start adding up. I see 6k in base and main parts. No comment on the quality of the refurbish as I would need more picks or to see it in person.

#45 6 years ago

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jj44114

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Sorry, but a poor restoration. Look at the side of the cabinet. What are those long gouges. Paint color way off. Whoever did that cab should be shot. Wasted.

#46 6 years ago

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jj44114

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I don’t want to bash on this, but this not restored. Dents in coin door, maybe rails
Already went over the cab, it’s worse after painting. Warning. ...what you don’t see is worse. Under playfield, inside cab,...etc.

#47 6 years ago

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jj44114

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A truly restored Fathom will go for this price. This one ain’t even close.

#48 6 years ago

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jj44114

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It’s a pig with lipstick. Look at the coin door bezel closely. Rusty deformed coin return button. This game is not restored. I’m sure inside the cab and backbox is worse.

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#49 6 years ago

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pinlink

Pinside member

Unknown

8y 72,150 2,205

Quoted from jj44114:
Warning. ...what you don’t see is worse. Under playfield, inside cab,...etc

How do you know? Have you seen pics?

#50 6 years ago

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jj44114

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