Great price for an original green holo, tempting!

Damn, this is a nice enough creature it would make me consider getting it back! Color dmd and PinSound with the TheWool mix upgrades this game to a new level!

Simply too flooded a market right now. Give it time. Tax refund season is not far away....

There's just way too much for sale and NIB now; even the most well regarded games are sitting. And as prices go up, it prices a lot of buyers out of the market

Great game but you can get a NIB munsters for $5200. Hard to pony up $4900 for a 27yr old game. The market has changed significantly and very quickly. It really seems like games in the $4000-$5500 range are in a bad spot due to the $5k entry price of a NIB. Unfortunately I think these games are going to lose a lot of value due to the flashy allure of new titles with lcd screens and such standard. Best of luck in finding a buyer cause it really is a great game. Like stated above tax season is here maybe that will bring you a buyer but don't be surprised if you end up having to reduce the price more.

Figured I'd ask, ever traveling to Indiana bump? Glwts

Probably right on target right now; but I believe the time and effort put into those 90s DMD games layouts, rule sets, etc will outlast the newer games. Stern games are fun, and they do good themes, but I always feel like they feel "cheap"
Compared to B/W games. Just
Hold out for a buyer who's into the theme as well as the game itself

I understand your logic but CFTBL is a collectible game and a total classic. The price will just stay steady or go up whereas you'll lose money on Munsters the moment you pop the box.

This is a smoking deal.

Yeah this ain't no stern, awesome pin they don't make em like this anymore, don't give it away, glwts.

Perhaps potential buyers are scared off by the issue with the hologram not rotating. I think it would help if you posted pics of the sides of the cabinet as well.

Ramps are available, same for cab decals, and I believe there's a decal for the wear between the flippers. Not to mention repro pf's have been made once and are coming around again soon. Like Don44 said, maybe a couple more pics of the side of the cab. I'd venture to say the holo motor problem is fixable -

I love the look of the new Munsters but CFTBL is a classic, have had mine forever....we'll see if people are still clamoring over the Munsters in 25 years.....

It'll sell.

The issues that the OP mentioned in his original post are relatively simple to fix.

Lay down clear vinyl/mylar to stop the wear on "FILM" (mine has a bit of this as well, and that's what I did, and until Mirco gets the PFs out, this will be just fine).

Ramps are available, thank goodness. Some work to get them out, but it is at least a problem that can be addressed.

The EOS error, if you look at the manual, states that that is part of a grounded switch column. My guess, and this is just a guess, is that "switch" is losing ground somewhere in the machine. That, or in this case, the opto board for the flipper may be getting a lil' hit-and-miss. Wonder if re-soldering the male pins and cleaning the female pins would help. That would be one I'd have to be there and experiment with.

The hologram motor being replaced: where did you get it? Those motors are HARD to find, and there are cross reference motors available that do meet the specs required. Do you know for sure you have a compatible motor...? If so, disconnect the pigtail connectors, get a DMM, set to 20V DC, put your black lead on the ground braid in the machine and your red lead on the pigtail wires from the machine side of the wire harness (all of this with the hologram motor test running). See if you get a value on each pin of the pigtail. If you do, the connection at the pigtail is just "hit-and-miss" and can be tested with jumper wires to ensure the motor is getting the proper voltages to power it. If not, something on the machine's side of the wire harness is being silly/needs to be fixed.

Stern machines are great, but if you want the older "classic DMD era" games, DIY skills are a must (or a healthy checkbook if you are lucky enough to have a pinball tech nearby).

There actually is no upper left flipper....I read somewhere about that phantom switch error message and how to get rid of it...might have to do some forum searching....

Hopefully you get lucky w the motor and it's just not getting juice.

Eos error usually occur bc the flipper opto boards have a issue... swap the left and right one and see if it consists.

<That is one way to look at it. Another way is that Munsters will sell for 4500 to 4700 as a resale in a year when new games are out (maybe lower, look at other NIB sales). This game has some small issues that I am sure can be improved. It is not going to go much lower then what it is at now and with a little work could easily sell for more.

There are some decals out there to put over the film issues. Not perfect, but cover nicely and add a little mylar. I have done that on my game and I have had 50 or so people play my game and no one commented ( and believe me a few of them would be glad to point out the games faults).

A green hologram is a big plus. I would rather deal with figuring out the motor then having the "Blue " hologram. The EOS switch is some thing lying to the CPU that there is a switch problem. Some good ideas here as starters.

Agree with DON44, need to see the whole cabinet.

If I was in the market, I would buy the Crech now, fix the issues, sell down the road when ready and get the Munsters HUO at a discount. I would try and resolve the issues and then sell. Good Luck.

This guy may have some left. (mirror motor). I bought two and the are very well put together. worked like a charm.

https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/creature-from-the-black-lagoon-motor-kit#post-4279667

Hey i'm right thete with the rest of you. I love the 90's bally/williams games and think they are much better and thoughtout yhsn the newer sterns. I'm only making the point thst people are passing on them due the flashy gimmicks of the new games thst are being put out. Hell if I lived cliser to the OP I would buy it cause its a great game.

I had a Jackbot or a Dirty Harry I picked up years ago, can’t remember which one, but it had the same phantom switch error. Diagnosed and there were no physical flipper or switch issues. After going through the game’s wiring diagram, it turned out there was a either a board swap from another WPC that probably occurred on route and either the board pins or plugs were not matching. Moved 2 wires, punched them down, eos error gone.

This is a steal for a timeless classic! I'd make the trip to pick it up if I didn't already own it.
Color DMD, Pin sound, Pin Stadium & The eventual hologram mod do wonders!

CFTBL After (resized).jpg

Show off . Great deal OP, I’m sure it’ll be scooped up very soon.

Did those have the amount of issues that yours does? Hologram doesnt turn, playfield wear, damaged ramp, other gremlims you mentioned, etc? Plus it has only been a week.

I remember that one. Two screw holes in the playfield would be less damage then the wear on your playfield. New plastics are what? About $150.
There was also one on Fb in really great condition a few months ago for $4300. I passed on it to buy my Scared Stiff.
Not trying to bash your price since I think it's a pretty average price for the condition game is in. But the real question is what is the right price for the game to sell??

You left a line in original desc about you and a tech working on the error you already fixed as of today. I'd edit that line out to reduce any confusion.

That’s great!!

This would be gone if shipping was an option, great price!!!

Bump for good game and good price

Who do I contact for this pricing?

It was a figurative price. The point I was trying to make is a lot of people who are coming into the hobby when confronted with a game that is 27yrs old that is $5k would probably opt for a brand new game for very little more $.

Call around. Street price is still cheaper then advertised.

Good!!!! I'll take all the good 90s WPC games while they pick up the ooooo shiney games.

thenaimis sells a replacement kit.
https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/replacing-the-infamous-cftbl-motors-repro

That wont happen.. your game has 4 legs ; ).

I'll happily respect your request and stop here. GLWYS!!

Did those have the amount of issues that yours does? Hologram doesnt turn, playfield wear, damaged ramp, other gremlims you mentioned, etc? Plus it has only been a week.</blockquo
Troll much??

Bumps are good

Personally i think it's a good price. The nos hologram adds some value (imo). If i had the space and the money I'd probably have jumped on this already. Good luck with sale, op. I think cftbl is an awesome game!

OP wondered why game hasnt sold, yet alienated 90% of potential buyers by refusing to ship... (scratching head)