Any larger photos?

It’s funny cause it’s true.

Have you? Just curious. Doing a post saying you are open to trading a machine before it even arrives does make one wonder. It sounds like, dare I say, an attempt to flip.

Why all the hate for a proposed trade? Get a life people. Let him do what he wants with his game.

Agreed. If not interested move on. Seems simple enough but everyone has to feel like their input is of some value. Not Really! It’s a fun game and it’s for sale. Not interested piss off and move on. GLWS.

There's a pipeline from Fort Wayne to Indy to Kentucky/Southern Indiana of pins that get flipped around from retailer to retailer to hoarders/hobbyists. Probably not a bad guess here.

Did they ever add call outs?
It's so sad from start to finish publicly they lasted about a year.
Heck I may make a pinball machines someday SLEs only though...

GLWS/Trade ... great art on the game. Quite surprising that it's very minimalistic under the playfield. Thanks for adding great pictures, haven't seen one in the wild.

not sure how it plays.....but damn, what a pretty machine.

so are they done? out of business now?

good for collectability then!!!!!

I may be in the minority, but I'm generally OK with folks flipping whatever they want. I neither have the connections nor luck nor capital to flip pinball machines, but hey, do what ya gotta do. Everyone's gotta eat, if you find something for less than fancy Jimbo Smith down the block is gonna be pay for it, heck no do I think you are obligated to pass and leave it for him, flip dat shiz, this is America!

looks like an Aerosmith, unfinished prototype without the callouts or code..

Really is a beatiful game shame the company ran into difficulties

I was thinking the same regarding how bare underneath the pf looks! but it looks like they have daisy chained all the lamps so must be using those serial chained leds, that would save a lot of wiring. And I guess those pcbs at the bottom are just coil drivers? and the switches just in a basic switch matrix?

The coil wires look very thin? or is that just the photos? not sure if correct awg was selected there? Or did williams always go overkill on coil wire awg

Absolutely beautiful. GLWT.

Yea I love the artwork and theme on this pin. Honestly only found out about this a few days before this popped up. A shame they went OOB already.

A company that can’t survive a rocky launch has no business trying to produce pinball machines. Hopefully this will serve as a deterrent for others of thus ilk.

It wasn't the pinball side that sank the company, mind.

Nothing wrong with trying. If no one tried, we wouldn't even have them. The only real issue is if people purposely try to screw people over....which is pretty much the staple of every American business.

Any more infomation on this story you can share?

Such a cool looking game. Hopefully someday I can play one.

If you were more local I'd ask about doing a temp trade for it and my ST pro.

GLWT though!!

Come on crazy jeans , that's a pretty shitty way to look at it , because companies have had poor releases that doesn't mean their games have been crap . If everyone thought that way there would be no new games .

I think he means that any new company needs to be prepared to put out at least 2 or 3 titles before expecting to be anywhere near profitability. It’s insanity to put so much work and time into building up a company only to have the whole thing dashed because your last minute marketing bombed, or a blurry photo leaked leading to bad buzz. With how fickle this community is, you need to be able to get up from the mat quickly.

But at least they gave it a go .

Absolutely! It does seem to make sense to have a solid, long term business plan in place as well.

There is a seperate Cosmic Carnival thread you can read. Short story is Suncoast Arcade manufactures arcade multigames and tried expanding into pinball with Suncoast Pinball. Due mostly to supplier issues they couldn't get enough machines built before bills came due. Only 25 Cosmic Carnival pinball machines were made before production ceased.

Ah yes I have been reading this thread, But it looks like this pinball machine is what sank the company? But the above comment suggests otherwise?

It is my understanding that Suncoast Arcade is still in business, only the pinball division is closed.

true, arcade machines are still being made, company is still open in florida.

Hopefully they build up the capital again to give it another go looks like a fun game. I saw they had 2 symmetrical plastic ramps on the prototype, why did they swap one with the metal? I quite liked the 2 plastic ramps.

this machine might be ok for the right collection. The largest plus is the artwork. Very nice looking machibe. Without this artwork the machibe is basically a Thunderbirds game. But might be jumping the gun as I have not played one yet.
Depth of code, or lack of, I don’t think hurts this game. If there are major bugs and flaws with the code that you run into regularly this would be a big problem. Think of magic girl, not even really able to enjoy a game without hitting a major issue with code. And these demand huge price tags because of who designed them and low build production. Just like this game.

Not sure on the play. I would consider one for my collection but really have to play a few games and see how complete the code is. Doesn’t have to be deep to have fun. Late 70’s and early 80’s games are a blast and have code that is as shallow as a puddle.

Stern has pumped out very simple playfield games lately and charged a lot more than what this is going for.

Interesting your wireform is black, mine is chrome

Lmao!

Yes we’d all be better off if stern would dump the crap they’ve been releasing and instead gave us stuff like cosmic carnival.