The cabinet is actually in fantastic condition other than a $2 piece of wood on the back of it. This machine is one of the nicest unrestored machines I have ever owned and that is saying something considering how many machines have passed through my hands in the 10 years we have been in the hobby.

Unlike a lot of sellers we don't do any cosmetic touch up work on machines before we offer them for sale. If you read my feedbacks or know anyone who has done business with me we you will find we try to sell good quality original machines at a "fair price". Typically I pay top dollar when buying nice machines so I need to ask a little more when selling certain machines and that is especially the case on extremely nice original machines. It seems like Pinsiders prefer "lipstick on a pig" over nice original used machines but that is OK. I have never had a machine that didn't sell at or near my asking price to a local buyer within a month or so of me offering it for sale.

THANKS! I try to be honest & fair when buying or selling machines. When selling I prefer letting "the next guy" decide what he wants to repair or touch up so I always sell machines in the same cosmetic condition I buy them in. I might clean a little dirt off but otherwise I let the next owner decide what touch up work they feel is necessary.

For years we fully shopped every machine we bought before adding it to the collection or offering it for sale. These days that seems to be a waste of time. Some people want LED's & some don't. Everyone's taste in lighting is different. So these days I find it best to just do a quick wipe down of the playfield - play a machine until we are ready for the next title - then offer the machine from our collection for sale as a working project and let buyer decide how they want to shop the machine and what they want for lighting.

THANKS! Considering condition and what I paid for it two years ago I thought $4750 was in the ballpark. If it doesn't sell over the next few days I'll likely just order a translite & get a piece of tempered glass for the backglass and adjust the price accordingly. I would prefer a quick sale as it sits but I don't need to give it away because of a $125 translite and a $25 piece of glass.

I have all of that stuff and it is all in good condition. As I said in my listing backglass exploded yesterday when I went to move the machine - everything else is their.

I can put buyer in contact with a seller who has a NOS backglass for $300 CASH. If I replace it I will use a translite just in case another piece of glass explodes - that way I don't need to worry about the art.

Most machines I put up for sale sell with in a month of me listing them for sale (or offering them for sale) so I think my prices are typically spot on for condition of each machine. Every machine I have ever listed COULD have been sold with in a couple days if I wanted to deal with shipping.

I never said this machine was HUO all I did was took a ton of pictures & said it is about as nice as it gets for an unshopped used machine. I have no problem with people debating if my price is in line or not and I have not run away from Pinside because of that like a lot of other sellers have who are now selling on Facebook. What I do have an issue with is people not seeing value in nice clean original machines compared to restorations or "lipstick on a pig". I am not talking about just my machines I am talking about any nice original machine getting sold.

This is the only hobby I have ever been in where people see more value in something restored than a nice original and I just don't understand that. I very much prefer a nice original that needs a little work over a machine with tons of touch up, reproduction parts, etc.

In any event this is up for sale here on Pinside for now. If it doesn't sell it can just stay in the collection. I offer machines for sale - I don't need to sell machines!

sorry, I thought this was sold? at least is showed as pending earlier? what happened?

I had a guy that sounded seriously interested in it so it was moved to the garage for him. I promised him I would give him "first shot at it" since he voiced an interest & was fairly local. I emailed him yesterday after listing it and told him about breaking the backglass. He got back to me a few hours later and told me to go ahead and try to sell it because he didn't want to deal with getting a backglass.

For anyone not following my other posts - last week I put up a post asking if there was any interest in about 6 or 8 machines I would have up for sale shortly here on Pinside. It was not a for sale post it was a post to decided what 2 machines I should move from the collection to the garage since I only had 2 open spaces in the garage. Once I moved this I wanted to be "fair" with Robin (Pinside) so I listed it just to be able to pay selling fees if guy bought it.

So bottom line is I just put tentatively sold on listing to hold it for someone to give them time to decide. I do that very often because I want to be fair with anyone who voices an interest in a machine I am selling. I know I am kind of crazy doing this and not just grabbing money from the first guy who shows up with cash but I am more interested in getting machines to people who really want them then I am in selling machines.

A coupe years ago I was selling fully shopped Pin-Bot's - F-14's - and Grand Lizards for $1000 to $1200. Two years later I would love to be buying projects of those titles for those prices. What does a sale 5 years ago have to do with today's market?

As I have said more than one time I have no issue when it comes to defending my prices on machines I sell. I put a ton of research into market values before buying or selling any title. Regardless of what anyone says Champion Pub in nice condition is worth right around $5000 in today's market. In my eyes this machine is much better than average and average selling price on this title is listed as $4500 here on Pinside. I know the backglass being gone takes a little off the value but the overall condition of this machine more than makes up for the missing backglass. So a "real world price" on this machine in today's market is $4500 to $5000 depending on how bad a buyer might want it. My asking price is right in the center of that range.

If I was in a bind and needed to sell a machine quickly $4000 to $4500 might be a better range on this but since I am offering it for sale and not desperate to sell it I don't need to give it away. Feel free to show me a recent sale of a Champion Pub for under about $4500 and maybe I'll change my tune but I will not change my price because I DON'T need to sell it and it is worth more than $4000 to me!

For some reason a certain group of people love giving me a hard time here on Pinside. Most of it started about 2 years ago when I posted about a warehouse deal I had in the works and a few people couldn't understand why I couldn't tell them more about the deal then I knew at the time. It seems like ever since I have had a handful of "haters" that just love to bash anything I try to list or do on Pinside.

I don't worry too much about those guys - my past customers, local friends and a ton of people in the local pinball community know who I am and what I try to do for people and that is all that really matters. Anyone having any questions about me can see by my feedbacks here and on eBay that I do all I can for my customers (past, present & future). If my feedbacks here on Pinside are not enough to ensure a potential buyer I try to be "fair" with every transaction you can take a look at what thousands of buyers have to say about me on eBay user name "pinjunk".

As I have said all along about this machine & others I have listed - I offer machines for sale at what I think are "fair prices" trying to find new homes for these machines, I don't need to sell machine but I prefer to sell them over having them just sitting folded in a corner once I am out of space in the gameroom.

It is the same way with my parts. Years ago I realized I had more stuff than I would use in two lifetimes so instead of just sitting on thousands of parts I knew I would never use I decided to start listing my excess stuff for sale at "fair prices". I am semi retired and really don't need all the extra work this is for me but I hate to see thousands of parts just sitting if they will help someone now or down the road.

I broke the glass Thursday afternoon when moving the machine from the basement to the garage for a potential customer. (As I always do I listed the machine on Pinside so Pinside would get their fees for the sale and marked the machine sale pending). Then I found out my potential customer was no longer interested. He got back to me at 10:15 Thursday evening (less than 48 hours ago).

I figured since I already had it listed I would just keep listing up until I either found a buyer or ordered a translite & got a piece of glass made. I saw no point in taking listing down just because of missing backglass.

My issue right now is another Pinsider offered me a NOS backglass for $300 and I am torn between buying a backglass or translite. The "factory glass" on this machine is very thin due to the lightbox design and I hate the idea of having a thin piece of glass shipped so I don't know if I want to chance buying the backglass or just change over to a translite. So I figured I would give listing a few days and let a buyer decide which they prefer.

Bottom line is people ask questions in post & I reply. I hate to type but there just never seems to be a short answer. It always comes back to the same thing - I do what I do because I love getting machines & parts to people who want them. If it was for the money I would have been gone years ago because I have yet to come close to minimum wage doing anything pinball related.

Another happy customer just pulled out of the driveway with a machine I have been holding for them for almost a year. So one more slot in the garage I can fill now. I just need to decide if Getaway or Flash goes into that space.

Since 2 other people didn't work out for this weekend I'll spend the rest of my day listing parts and trying to help some of my parts customers who have been waiting for stuff. Then I'll likely order a translite for Champion Pub so I have that for the future buyer. I just can't bring myself to buy another thin backglass for this machine especially since it is in the garage now.

Know that feeling all to well!

I tend to do that when I am bored. This past week my back has been a mess so I have had way to much time for Pinside. Don't worry I am feeling much better now so I'll be here less and working with parts more. My eBay parts customers are getting tired of waiting for new parts to be listed so I really need to get back to that!

As far as the "great deals comment" - Rarely are my machines "great deals" I post machines at "fair" prices and wait for the right customer. As I have said dozens of times in the past I tend to overpay when buying so I can't sell cheap when selling. Plus I am never in a huge hurry to sell so I "offer machines for sale" and just wait for the right buyer to appreciate what they are buying and why my price is "fair" for the machine I am selling in the condition it is in.

It is the only place on the internet that makes me wonder why I did! Sadly I didn't learn much about grammar or spelling in college but the partying was great! But those are stories for another day!

Wish I knew you were headed to Lloyd's today I would have been more than happy to have worked a deal on that machine or anything else I have for sale. I still love doing the parts but I just don't have time & energy for everything these days so I figured I would see if there was any interest. Laser War wasn't up for sale again until late last night when my buyer notified me he couldn't come get it because his car had transmission issues.

As far as Champion Pub price - I turned down $5000 for it twice last Winter because I wasn't ready to sell it and I really don't care if it sells or not. If it doesn't sell I'll just put it back into the collection but I need to sell off a dozen (or so) machines and I had to list something.

If you are heading East again let me know what you have for me and we can work something out.

Later,
Skip

For the 100th time I listed this the same day I broke the backglass specifically for someone who voiced an interest in it. They didn't take the machine so I decided to just keep the listing up. I am "offering this machine for sale" - if someone wants it GREAT but if not it can just go back into the collection. Come on guys this isn't "rocket science" if I broke the backglass Thursday how soon do you think I can have a new backglass for this machine?

Anyway - if you want to keep posting and asking the same questions I'll be the "broken record" and keep giving you the same answers.

All I was trying to do with my original post about the warehouse deal was to let people know I would have a bunch of machines for sale shortly. Somehow it became a HUGE MESS just because people couldn't understand that I could not post information and pictures of machines that I didn't have and that were 450 miles away. Those same people have been giving me a hard time every time I try to do or say anything here on Pinside for two years now.

If you look at those old post and look at the people giving me a hard time about my asking price on this machine over 1/2 of the people are those same people. None of them are close enough to do business with me so I don't get why they need to be so negative in the first place. But considering all the typical DRAMA here on Pinside it doesn't surprise me.

In any event I have had a fair amount of interest in machines I currently have listed and once some of them are gone I'll have space to start on "Phase 2" of the warehouse deal. I can't say exactly when that might happen but I am hoping for Spring. I really don't feel like emptying a 10x40 storage unit over the Winter.

My past customers and guys in the local pinball community know who I am and why I do what I do. So since I don't ship machines they are the only ones I really care about anyway. And if anyone wants to know how I treat my customers just take two minutes and look at my feedbacks - that should answer any questions you have about me!

Nothing people say or do can (or will) discourage me. I'll keep doing things my way until I die - it has worked for me for over 50 years why would I change now? I was able to semi retire when I was in my early 50's and enjoy everyday of my life with the same woman I married over 40 years ago. I have two great kids and a couple great daughter-in-laws. I do what I want to do ever day - I don't get up in the morning and have to go to work and answer to a boss. I am in decent health overall and am able to travel about three months a year. So life is good and will only be better once both my wife & I start getting some of the money we put into Social Security in a few months!

People who know me know what I am about and the hell with the haters! This is just one of dozens of things I am involved in and regardless of the hobby or business there are always a few people who think they could do it better. 99% of the time those guys are the guys that don't have a clue or are to lazy to do the work so I have gotten very good as just ignoring them.

Somehow this post has gotten really derailed from bashing me about my "overpriced" Champion Pub but again what else is new on Pinside!

Alaska is one of the two states we have not made it to yet and it is on the top of my bucket list. What I wouldn't give to have the time and money to spend a month exploring Alaska. I am hoping to get there in the next couple years but that will only happen if I can get some of my excess stuff sold off. I can't be away too long because I am paying a ton of money out each month in storage rent and when I am traveling I keep thinking "you should be home getting out of storage" then after a few minutes I realize "who the hell cares - have some fun while you can".

Hawaii is the other state I have missed and I know I'll never get their since I don't fly. I am not afraid to fly I am afraid to try to fit into an airplane seat. I am 6'6" tall with long legs so the though of hours on a plane just scare the hell out of me. First Class might be OK but being a cheap SOB I will not give an airline that kind of money just to go from point "A" to point "B".

I was following some of your post and loved seeing some of the stuff we are missing out on living down here. But I don't know if I could handle the cold winters up their or the hours of darkness in the winter. Seems like a great place to visit but it has to be tough living their at times? Maybe the openness & scenery more than makes up for the other stuff but only people from Alaska can answer that.

Summer would likely kill me - I would never go to bed!

Just back from Sunday afternoon football. I can imagine me with 20 hours of daylight - I would never get any sleep. Especially if temp was warm enough to be working outside. Maybe I'll try to come visit you in a year or two & if you talk nice to me I might even be able to bring a machine or two along for you in my van. I tow my camper with a 3/4 ton Chevy Van so I have plenty of room for a couple machines when I travel.

Don't worry I enjoy reading everything posted but I would enjoy some great pictures even more! Pictures of Alaska (not of the women in Alaska) to make things perfectly clear. Although if you have any really good pictures of women in Alaska you can send me those via email as long as my wife doesn't find them! (Just kidding!)