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For sale: Bad Cats

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#1 2 years ago

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For sale: Bad Cats

Added: 2021-06-08 17:39:20 UTC • Ended: June 9th, 2021
Condition: Partially restored (almost original)

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Price

$ 6,500 (OBO)

Open for offers

Item description

Very nice bad cats. Works perfect.
Above average original Pf. New star posts and rubbers. Shopped. All leds
Brand new ramps.
New cab decals and restoration. Metal cab protectors under legs.

I took quick pics at lunch. Serious inquiries I can take a gazillion more.

Listing at $6500 obo. Shoot me an offer. And remember inflation with lumber. Easily $1000 of plywood in this sucker!!
Basing price off what I’ve been told it’s worth on here. Price flexible. Not sure what these are going for in this kinda shape.
No trades.
Fredonia Ny. Would rather not ship due to how nice cab/decals are.


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#4 2 years ago

Bring it on f@ckers!

Remember: my ad says OBO. Meaning i'm really just trying to get the best price i can.

This one has been tough to figure on pricing.

SO, shoot me an offer!

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#7 2 years ago
Quoted from cosmokramer:

Close to stern premium price? I love Bad Cats more than most people do, but wow

Or

Best

Offer

#9 2 years ago
Quoted from pinlink:

Hoping to see Blackbeard price police his own thread.

Love this!

Honestly guys, i don't know what it's worth and i'm getting outta the hobby for now.

It was suggested to list 6500 obo. That's what i'm doing. I haven't been into prices in the past bunch of months due to some personal reasons.

It is a REALLY nice example. The game itself is boring i find. But it's a masterpiece in terms of artwork, etc.

Just shoot me a decent offer.

And no, not $1500 and your beater Flash.

#12 2 years ago
Quoted from truemagoo102:

Blackbeard I don't think your price is crazy. I've heard the stories for 6k and 7k Bad Cats sales too. Condition is king- you rarely see nice ones for sale.

Thanks. I don't think its crazy either.

A year ago, these things were going for $3500 for beaters. And that's if you can find them. And pretty much all of them have horrible cabs/decals/fade.

New ramps, very nice pf, and cab restoration should show a decent price.

#17 2 years ago
Quoted from woody76:

when garbage bad cats are going for $4500-$5k I think he is very close to were this will sell at and lets be honest how often does one in this condition pop up?

I think most people are just being critical cause i've been a price police at times.

Bad cats rarely pop up for sale. And when they do, they're expensive and beat up badly. Cabs are always destroyed and pfs are rather chewed up.

#20 2 years ago
Quoted from KHL:

Nice “Add” you one Add Cat

Sorry. Cell phones are a bitch sometimes.

#22 2 years ago
Quoted from Frax:

Not enough to ever spend more than 3k on a decent one

Honestly, it's because you likely won't find one for that. And if you do, 100 other guys are lined up to steal it at that price.

#23 2 years ago
Quoted from Isochronic_Frost:

I see Bad Cats owners are pumping the hell out of this thread!
It’s a racket!!

Be nice. It's a sweet looking pin.

#25 2 years ago
Quoted from CrazyLevi:

It’s mind blowing to see you saying all the stuff your targets use to say.
Honestly it’s scary. If the market can do this to a former cop we really ARE all screwed.

Please stop pm'ing bout your Nip It and $500 cash bro. NO DEAL!!!

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#34 2 years ago
Quoted from YeOldPinPlayer:

I think most people being critical think the price is bat-shit crazy.

It’s listed obo. And I made it clear to pm an offer.

I don’t think, given its rarity and condition, I’m way too far off.

But it’s fine. Voice opinions. That’s what the market is for.

#37 2 years ago

Beaters two years ago we’re going for 3500+ If you could find them.

Add in 2 years. Rarity. Ramps and cab restoration, and a nice original pf, and price isn’t off especially given its obo.

And if you’ve never restored a cab, you have no idea the amount of labor involved.

Attack me all you want, but price isn’t off.

#39 2 years ago
Quoted from locksmith:

Bring it to Allentown. Will be a good year to sell. GLWS

I doubt I’ll make the show this year. I’m just kind of getting out of a hobby and it’s like a 6 Hour Dr.

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#42 2 years ago

You’re right d!ckhead. I should just give them away.

Gtfoh

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#43 2 years ago

I haven’t seen one of you list off what you think this should sell for.

Break it down for me.

Again, first you need to find one. And if it’s trashed, it’ll still be easily 3500-4500. And it’ll be sold in minutes.

Add in costs like ramps and decals. Then the labor, time and effort in restoring.

No one is backing shit up. And I don’t blame you. It’s a tough pin to assign a price to cause it’s pretty rare.

#45 2 years ago
Quoted from shimoda:

Luckily I was able to refind one less than two years ago for $750. Shouldn't have sold the first one, this one is going nowhere. GLWS

DAMN good find. Restore the cab if bad. Makes it look soooo nice

#47 2 years ago
Quoted from Frax:

I just can't believe it's gotten SO ridiculous that beaters are 4k.

Agreed. But that’s the market.

I think the pin is actually pretty boring.

#49 2 years ago

It’s quirky fun.

I wish it were multiball.

#53 2 years ago
Quoted from Pinphila:

Good luck. I saw pictures of his decal job and process and It was done right. Game looks great.

Something I doubt I’ll ever do again. My God what a pain in the ass

#58 2 years ago
Quoted from TheLaw:

Yeah its the same douche. Price pumpers finally put him over the edge and he's been on a low key pity retirement party for a wHile now. Just put them all up for sale wo we don't have to listen to this same shit each time.
Or....come back to the Price Police. We need you more than ever.

How about you lick my sweaty balls, huh?

#60 2 years ago
Quoted from TheLaw:That's official police business only

Clearly you’d know.

Why don’t you make an informed comment about what you think I should list for given the base price of these plus all the extra crap instead being your normal condescending self? You’re a waste of data bro.

#63 2 years ago
Quoted from Bud:

Any pics of the boards, inside of cabs, under cabs and back of pin, under PF etc?

I can do. Need to pull it out of its spot

#65 2 years ago
Quoted from bigehrl:

here's your informed comment to the guy selling a $4650 Flintstones:
"Way to pricey. Most would prefer a stern pro I’d think at that price."
sounds like sage advice to me!

And that prob was too much IMO for a fs at the time.

Why dont you give your informed opinion as to the price of the current game with its upgrades instead of searching my ancient posts?

#68 2 years ago
Quoted from CrazyLevi:

You’d have to have your fucking head examined paying over $2500 for a Bad Cats.

I get that comment based upon gameplay. But bad cats is seen more as collectible for its rarity and art I believe. I’m not a fan of playing it.

#75 2 years ago
Quoted from bigehrl:

i'm not usually one to tell people what THEIR game is worth. take my advice, it's a better way to live. but fine, you want a reality check that badly? you got it...
the highest documented Bad Cats sale that I could find was a very nice original (nicer than yours) sold for $3200. granted, that was in 2018. But unless your machine suddenly became nicer than the photos you posted, and Bad Cats doubled in price when I wasn't looking, then you're way off. as a matter of fact, the avg range for Bad Cats in any year, in any condition seems to range from as low as $1800 for a beater, to $3700 for partially restored or very nice condition original. $4500 MAX.
i have no idea where you get the notion that beaters were selling for $3500 all day long. But I just don't think that's accurate. Even if yours is a little nicer than the NICEST one ever listed, I think $2000-$2500 above that is way off.
so there ya go. that's my informed opinion. and I never would've offered it, unless you begged for it.

And I appreciate your opinion instead of your personal bashing.

Like the ad clearly reads its obo and to make an offer bc I myself don’t know what this is worth. I’ve heard 6500. I also ist received a pm at 10k which I thought was wicked high.

I’m more into letting
The market decide instead of guessing. As I said I don’t know as it’s a hard pin to figure.

#76 2 years ago
Quoted from bigehrl:

the highest documented Bad Cats sale that I could find was a very nice original (nicer than yours) sold for $3200.

I’d also be curious where you found an original cab in better shape.

#78 2 years ago
Quoted from bigehrl:

just did a quick arm-chair search of the archived pinside listings

What was the name of the seller with the sale in 2018 with a better cab and nice than this for $3200. Curious.

#81 2 years ago
Quoted from Cmjb13:

I may be in the minority here and maybe I didn’t play enough games on it, but after 5 minutes of playing, I walked away.

I think that was his point. Zzzzz

#86 2 years ago
Quoted from Yesh23:

I call bullshit on the excuse it’s hard to price… you want 6500 so just say it. I mean there’s only 2,750 Grand Lizards so just slightly more than Bad Cats and you knew how to lowball all the time on that machine. Just trying to bump your thread a bit and mess with ya. I hope you get close to sling bump

It is hard to price. I think, on average, pinside is a good indicator of pricing. But on some pins their pricing is way way off. This is one pin I say that reflects.

Look at my last 4 ads. All pins were sold at reasonable prices. This one is a tough one to figure.

I had asked another on here what to list for and they said shoot for $6500. I too thought that was a tad high but I’ve been out of the game for awhile. That why I tried to make the ad known I’d listen to offers.

I get the hate for the policing thing. But when I have in the past, it’s been on pins I truly believed were overpriced. I’m not so sure this one is given the condition and rarity.
I also know the time and effort I put into the cab making it just right. It was a supreme effort. And if you’ve never restored a cab, give it a try. It’s satisfying when complete but something I won’t do again. It’s that intensive.
Just let me see what it sells for. I always list sale prices.

#89 2 years ago
Quoted from woody76:

yea, if your getting out of the hobby Allentown would be a terrible trip. I guess you could sit at the farmers market and eat all day.

I’m going to hang onto my taxi and pinbot. My two favorite pins.

#91 2 years ago
Quoted from woody76:

both great. I am thinking about selling all mine but a few.

I’m going thru a difficult stage of my life and the hobby has just become too much. Lugging pins. Anxiety over making them work right. Shopping them. Just losing steam is all.

There is part of me that doesn’t wanna sell bad cats. I was impressed w what I was able to do with it and it, as a project, got me thru a very difficult time.

#96 2 years ago
Quoted from CrazyLevi:

But you could get a HUO stern pro for that !!!!!
Gonna have to call the price police in on this one.

Ok dude. Enough. We get it.

#100 2 years ago
Quoted from tdiddy:

Dont sell it brother......I wish I never sold my restorations, I always think back about all the time I put into them and now their gone......

Still have that taxi.

#103 2 years ago
Quoted from Jimmyhonda:

Not nice. Yowza.

And calling me a douche bag is?

Please

#113 2 years ago
Quoted from ManyQuarters:

Bottom line, in today's market, I'll guess $US5,000 to $7,000 for a restored Bad Cats depending on condition. Go for $6,000+"

That’s where I got my reference at 6500

#119 2 years ago
Quoted from radial_head:

your decal job leaves a lot to be desired in the corners and edges and the condition of the mylar vs no mylar section

I think I did a damn good job on the decals.

And I’ll toss in a piece of Velcro for the battery pack. Christ.

#122 2 years ago
Quoted from radial_head:

The corners seem to already be lifting and I see no reason you wouldn't color match your base coat before you threw on the decals. Just how it looks in the photos. If the photos are the issue, give some high schooler $50 to take some "pro" photos and repost them in your ad.
All I'm saying is you're a hobbyist doing this. As good as it is, I wouldn't ever price yourself alongside the work and prices of people who do it professionally.

Corners are lifting? Not in the slightest. And if you actually knew how to restore a cab, you cut the corners a bit back.

Keep up w the hate man. It’s all good.

And this isn’t priced anywhere near a professional. If you think so, you’re not informed what a hep bad cats would sell for.

And my price point, as stated, was based upon a suggestion given to me. I haven’t been too involved in the hobby for awhile due to personal reasons. And it’s obo and “make an offer” to reflect that fact.

#125 2 years ago
Quoted from radial_head:

Okay. Will you accept $3,750 or trade for a nice GTB Atlantis plus $1k cash?

Why don't you make more shit up about my "corners lifting" ?

It's one thing to price police, but another to knowingly misrepresent something like "corners lifting" to sabotage my ad.

#128 2 years ago
Quoted from radial_head:

They just look like that from the image and the black peeking out

So clearly you've never restored a cab. You cut the decals back a bit to PREVENT the corners getting snagged.

Appreciate your redacting. the corners aren't "lifting" in the slightest.

#130 2 years ago
Quoted from radial_head:

And you also match your cabinet base coat to the original color of the screened cabinet.

Ive seen both. But thanks for your opinion, along with the battery back not velcrowed in.

#141 2 years ago
Quoted from nicoy3k:

You couldn't be bothered to give it a little bit of a cleaning before trying to price gouge?

Thanks, but it's been shopped.

#142 2 years ago
Quoted from MMP:

My initial thought was 3500

Appreciate you insight.

I think it's really hard to even find a beater at 3500. They do pop up here and now, but even average ones, without cab restoration and new ramps, are tough to find for 3k+.

#144 2 years ago
Quoted from CrazyLevi:

No you won't.
Amidst the storm of Upstate NY Price policing, there were always a few Buffalo guys who would prop each other up on their own overpriced ads. Nice to see the circle remains unbroken!

You don't know this guy. He already offered more than 4500 but i'm waiting on a higher offer.

He's a good friend, but has nothing to do with "propping up" jack shit.

#146 2 years ago
Quoted from CrazyLevi:

Bullshit.
I remember the buffalo price police patrol. You and your cronies always shit on everybody else's ads yet fluffed up each others.
Absolutely nothing has changed.

Lol.

Cause you know everything. Bullshit yourself bro.

Mike has purchased pins from me in the past. But you know everything.

Get the fuck outta here. He's into nice looking pins. He likes to clear coat pfs, etc. So enough with your bs.

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#147 2 years ago
Quoted from CrazyLevi:

Absolutely nothing has changed.

Your sarcastic, annoying as hell attitude hasn't changed. That's what hasn't changed.

I've TRIED to be friendly with you in prior posts, but you continue to be a blazing dickhead. ALL. THE. TIME.

Move the fuck on already. You've made your annoying ass comments already. Fuck off.

#151 2 years ago
Quoted from CrazyLevi:You know, all you gotta do it is apologize for your long, obnoxious career as the Barney Fife of price policing, and we'll all lay off and let you be as you try to sell shitty System 11 games for Stern Premium money.
Or just admit that, yeah, it's super fucking obnoxious and doesn't help anybody around here buy or sell pinball machines, and that people are free to ask whatever they want for their games.

At this point levi, i don't give a fuck what you think.

#157 2 years ago
Quoted from Breaking_Dad:

I’m still waiting for my first dibs...???!!!.......Joey

Shoot me an offer!

#159 2 years ago
Quoted from Breaking_Dad:

That was saposta happen before this thread got started....pretty sure that’s what that means............Joey

Gotcha. I forgot you reached out. Like i said, i haven't been much into pinball anymore. My apologies..

Well you're still first dibs. I've had a couple pretty nice offers, so lemme know if you're interested.

#166 2 years ago
Quoted from cosmokramer:

So the OP told joey it would be worth 6k in 3 years, and he has first shot at it...then posts for 6500 and fucks joey out if the deal because he "forgot" the conversation from 2 weeks ago...
Classic

After that conversation I had asked around and was told to list at 65.

But spin it anyway you’d like.

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#169 2 years ago

Pulling the ad.

If anyone’s wants to make an offer, feel free.

This is exactly the reason I’m getting out of the hobby. Constant bitching and bullshit.

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