Not nice. Yowza.

edit: yeah I looked more closely at the pictures- there is a little bit of ball swirls/wear, it's not cleared, just factory mylar- yeah I think the price is high but its OBO.

I'm just here wondering how people are selling Evel knievel for $4500?? Damn boomers are running the prices up!!

This was entertaining until I realized it's the same 7-8 dudes bantering back and forth. GLWTS.

Here's a real actual bar by which you can judge value. This January I lined up a purchase for a Bat Cats in St.Louis MO. I live in Knoxville TN. The machine was BEAUTIFUL. New cab decals, new playfield, full LED (not the rainbow puke crap), Full titan rubbers, Very nice topper (laserific maybe?), etc.. you get the idea. It was amazing. I was to do the driving. The agreed upon sale price was $4800 if memory serves me. I even paid a deposit via PayPal. I then caught Covid and was hospitalized for over a week. I was forced to do the responsible thing, eat the non refundable deposit, and prepare for the soon to come medical bills. So, you can form whatever opinion you may from that info.

Since when are Bad Cats going for nib prices?

New playfield ups the ante quite a bit.

What is Bad Cats worth? $6500 $2500

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Quoted from Blackbeard in Bad Cats forum 15 days ago:

"Guys, I'm half tempted to list my restored bad cats. Looking for thoughts on pricing as i've been outta the hobby for a few months.."

My response in Bad Cats forum 15 days ago:

"Blackbeard, that's a tough one and you always have to factor in condition and rarity but the way pin asking prices have moved lately makes for a rising price target for any pin. Last year's prices (or even six months ago prices) are not this year's prices.

I see a lot of low to medium rated EM's in 6 or 7 condition priced for nearly $US2,000 and the highly rated rare ones pricing for double that or more in my local. SS's are about that or more and NIB prices are going off the charts. It just seems the middle era alphas and DMD's are seeing a less volatile price surge. Their time will come. The shine just seems to be elsewhere right now. JMHO

As far as Bad Cats go here are my thoughts:
- My refurbished to CQ status BC was ordered two years ago for the equivalent of just over $US6,000. I felt that was a lot at the time but NIB's were nudging up to $US10,000 here so I reasoned I was getting a good deal.
- Well two years later I'm a happy camper with that purchase as it's basically a NIB (or better) HUO and easily half the cost of any NIB.
- Now I see the prices from the same refurbisher (Absolute Pinball ) and you are looking at around $US8,000 for the same or even lower rated game.
- It depends on the buyer though. Bad Cats is a masterpiece of art from Python and many people love cats. Yes, it may not be the most highly rated game playwise but look at all the mediocre stuff pumped up on the market that has a lot less going for it.

Bottom line, in today's market, I'll guess $US5,000 to $7,000 for a restored Bad Cats depending on condition. Go for $6,000+"

BTW...Me and Bad Cat Elmer are both real happy 'bout 'our' Bad Cats!

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it sold for 4400 i believe. and i thought that was absurd.

Can we just play guess the final selling price instead of any bitching or bickering? I’m saying 4800.

I'll play.

$4000, cash.

My wife likes cats.

Guys, don't you remember? OP is REALLY conscious about his taxes and how much money he makes, which he has put in CLEAR TERMS in previous threads, so he's obviously just padding his sale price so he can recoup his losses with his accurately filled out 1099 for every game he sells. The government is screwing him over so he's just trying to do his fair share to support the "welfare babies" as he calls 'em.

You seem to be really hung up on people only having "informed opinions" so here's a few:
Your game is far from QC but you're getting your prices based on people who have QC examples. If we're talking "fully restored" your decal job leaves a lot to be desired in the corners and edges and the condition of the mylar vs no mylar sections is too dramatic to price yours in the "qc" or even "fully restored" realm. I was genuinely shocked to see that for your price you didn't install a new playfield, and at the very least, didn't tie down the battery pack (you have it just hanging there willy nilly???). The person who gave you that price range you're putting yours in has a MUCH nice example and hadn't seen pictures of yours.

I'm gonna guess that this will go for $4,500.

I sold mine last year for $4800 with CPR playfield, new ramps and nice originsl orange cab. I think $3500 is fair for yours even in this market but I fully support your right to ask whatever you like for your own property. Hopefully you will retire your badge and do the same for others.

Entertaining thread...kudos to OP for letting the discussion flow when he knew he was going to get it both barrels.....that's ballsy.

Favorite quote of the thread so over-The hunter has become the hunted.

My guess-$3,750

GLWS

I’m still saying $4560 based my buying experience and 30 seconds of research. My BC purchase was very similar, but with practically perfect original sides (I can provide pics).

4.5k by Christmas

The corners seem to already be lifting and I see no reason you wouldn't color match your base coat before you threw on the decals. Just how it looks in the photos. If the photos are the issue, give some high schooler $50 to take some "pro" photos and repost them in your ad.

All I'm saying is you're a hobbyist doing this. As good as it is, I wouldn't ever price yourself alongside the work and prices of people who do it professionally.

Okay. Will you accept $3,750 or trade for a nice GTB Atlantis plus $1k cash?

1k just in plywood?
Hahaha

Even at todays ridiculous lumber prices, this is a bold faced lie.

There is a HEP Getaway in the market place right now for the same asking price...

I publicly redact my statement about the corners lifting. They just look like that from the image and the black peeking out behind them. I apologize for introducing false speculation into this thread.

Yea, if you paid $6k+ for a restored one 2 years ago it would be $8k today. no doubt

And you also match your cabinet base coat to the original color of the screened cabinet.

This is a fun thread! I honestly honestly hope it sells. There’s a buyer for every pin (unless it’s a Thunderbirds!)

Agreed. I honestly wouldn't be surprised that if this were listed as 6.5K firm on whatever local craigslist it would go to someone who doesn't want to be in the hobby but just loves cats and loves arcade games without batting an eye.

You sabotaged your own "add" years ago

Good Luck with the Sale.

Can’t wait to read this when I get home tonight but I would of started at 10k, can always go down, and there’s someone hiding in the shadows that will definitely “over pay” for this pin, happens to me every time I post something that everyone thinks is to high. Like it or not, pinball is hot right now and people have extra cash that they will overpay , especially for a title that doesn’t come up often.

Glws mr beard, although you won’t need it.

Ps- I’ll go 4500

Man, you spent all that money...

And then put it by a window?

My initial thought was 3500, after looking closer at the photos I'll stick with that. Without a playfield swap there has to be some distance between a Bad Cats and many choice Stern pros. Gdam this hobby these days.

Honest question... WTF does the color of paint UNDER an opaque decal have to do anything unless you're talking exclusively about corners that might end up exposed or something? I've never had the room to do cabinet restorations, so I'm honestly ignorant in this regard.

You couldn't be bothered to give it a little bit of a cleaning before trying to price gouge?

No you won't.

Amidst the storm of Upstate NY Price policing, there were always a few Buffalo guys who would prop each other up on their own overpriced ads. Nice to see the circle remains unbroken!

Bullshit.

I remember the buffalo price police patrol. You and your cronies always shit on everybody else's ads yet fluffed up each others'.

Absolutely nothing has changed.

You know, all you gotta do it is apologize for your long, obnoxious career as the Barney Fife of price policing, and we'll all lay off and let you be as you try to sell shitty System 11 games for Stern Premium money.

Or just admit that, yeah, it's super fucking obnoxious and doesn't help anybody around here buy or sell pinball machines, and that people are free to ask whatever they want for their games.

I looked for a BC for awhile, until I discovered the prices people wanted, and finally realized that the gameplay is pretty lackluster. No multiball for this era is a real turnoff. Hammer the center ramp over & over. Random fishbowl & jackpot awards not great for tourney play. Etc Etc. But's fairly rare, its a Python Anghelo game, unique orange cabinet, and some people have huge cat fetishes. So I understand the cult following.

IMO you'd be lucky to find one for under $2500. New ramp & decals are nice, but do not justify the asking price. If anyone is asking $4500+ for a BC and it doesn't have a new CPR playfield, then smarter heads will keep on walking. The gameplay just isn't worth it. Plenty of better System 11's out there for the money.

GLWS. Go Bills. Meow Meow Meow Meow.

This is getting very toxic. You don’t need to defend every comment. You priced it the way you wanted with OBO. So be it. The problem is your history of price policing, then you price something pretty damn high. You had to know what was coming in a forum post. I think it sells for $4650. GLWTS.