I don’t about you guys, but to me the asking price seems a little high for this particular title!
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Quoted from Yoko2una:Ah yes “the market will dictate” and “hey it’s a free market” responses
Do we want to test how GD stupid the market is with this outrageous pricing everyday (almost exclusively from new members who have contributed nothing to this site), or does Pinside want to clean up the bullshit new member FS ads and actually have some integrity?
Counterpoint: these insane ads provide pinside with valuable catharsis by allowing longtime members to abuse these ridiculous sellers with price police monkey piles. They provide a healthy outlet for our rage.
Quoted from Flipper_McGavin:Yup, that's how the vibe is here. And that's how it usually is on any forum. The newbies with the low post counts never know anything. The Pinsiders with 10,000 useless posts with a 7 year old account who attribute nothing constructive to this forum, group together and act like their own gang, who only laugh and joke with themselves while picking on the peons.
The topic of why everybody hates noobs was covered in some detail recently. Lots of good points here!
https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/why-the-hate-for-newbies
My explanation points as to why everybody hates noobs were as follows. Please note the following are for entertainment and educational purposes only:
1. The poorer / more frugal types like to announce themselves with "I am brand new to this hobby and and the only games I'm interested in owning is a mint condition MB, MM, or TZ, or a brand new GNR. WHY ARE THEY SO EXPENSIVE? Is this a hobby for rich people?" which disrespects not only the hundreds of pinball machines that aren’t the 4 they want, but also the overwhelming percentage of hobbyists here who are not rich.
2. They post the same dumb threads over and over, seriously thinking they are the only geniuses to ever wonder which games are overrated or underrated or what theme we'd like to see or why the Pinside 100 isn't to their liking, or to ponder whether or not we are in a bubble and, in fact, if it will burst.
3. They crowd up an already crowded hobby driving up prices and further sucking up all the games.
4. I'm now middle aged and I hate everybody.
5. They type way too goddamn much and think we seriously want to read their 2,000 word essays that boil down to "pinball machines are expensive" or "why won't someone sell me a MM cheap?" We really don't care about the minute details of your life or the complex intellectual process behind your conclusion that "games shouldn't dimple" or "you see, pinball is kinda like cars..."
6. THey tend to be the worst fanboys. You rarely see a 15 year vet camping out in a Stern thread whining about how much better a JJP game is or vice versa as if their life depends on convincing the rest of the world of it. It's always people who have been around 3 years and think we give a shit about their unfettered todyism and banal cheerleading.
7. It'll come to me and I'll add it in here. Edit - yeah, the fucking cargument. Why are human beings universally unable to compare anything to anything else that isn't a car? It begs the question, did analogies even exist before the invention of the car? Or were people dumbfounded, saying things like “butter churns are like...um...uhh...gosh nabbit!!!! Someone better invent some kind of horseless carriage so I can complete this sentence!!”
8. They like to rage vent with some 2,000 word post about an ebay or craigslist deal gone sour, as if it hasnt happened to all of us a dozen times, or as if any of us give a shit about the boring details or as if the 65-year old woman who wronged them will actually come here to read it.
9. Like most people, they almost always think they are funny, and like most people, they aren't.
10. Constant demands for code updates and an almost universal lack of understanding of how business works, exemplified by demands that "Stern should cut their prices $1,000!" or "Why can't pinball machines cost less, but have way more stuff in them, also they should be way more complicated, but also be way more reliable!" You know, insane shit like that which is either impossible or would put any pinball company under in about a month.
Quoted from Rum-Z:I think we need to dial this raging popularity back with a new "Pinball Sucks" campaign. Let's go!
Nobody likes pinball anymore, it's too popular!
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