I'm trying to decide if it's Jodester or you who just killed two machines that could have been saved.

I just hate seeing it go to waste. I am confident both could have been saved.

What's left of the remaining FH? Is it completely stripped now? Any interested in selling all the parts that are left over?

What do you mean, "like"?

Yep, this guy is obviously a shitty person. Probably cheats on his wife, spits on homeless people, and never puts down the toilet seat too.

Two less pinball machines in the world that will never be saved

All three games looked pretty salvageable to me. Nothing that a bit of elbow grease and some new parts couldn't fix.

parting out a machine sometimes saves 10 or 20 others. One of those is a basket case. bottom falling out and rotted to shit. It's not like there are a shortage of FH's out there. parting one of these out, isn't the end of the world. Personally, I wouldn't have paid $500 for the whole group. would have been more hassle to move them out than what it was worth.

I think the trash pics without knowing if they had working boards and so on changed, to salvageable with pics of machine actually with some lights on.

did you see the bottom falling out of that FH?

Yup. That can be replaced. There are at least a couple of restoration threads kicking around where you can see how it's done.

Cabinet repair, while time consuming, is really a lot of fun and not too difficult. I would have taken on any of those three machines, and if he was near me, they would have been spoken for in seconds.

Neo is too much of a purist. Would rather see games trashed than receive decals/cpr playfields.

On another note I bought a machine from DougPiranha Saturday. Pretty sure the OP would have trashed his BSD. Luckily that DougPiranha knows how to pick up a phone and found a cabinet to replace the original trashed one.

no, i'm all about saving a game if possible. but with the bottom falling out like that. I would assume the water damage is massive. Which means the transformer is probably assed, and rusted everywhere. If that's all the problem is, yes it can be saved. If everything else is assed up inside, then you are better off parting it out.

as for the decals. It has nothing to do with purity. It has to do with decals are fragile as shit. if you squeeze between 2 games that are decalled, your belt will put a nice long white streak across the cabinet without much effort. They are terrible when it comes to durability. So when I see someone take a cabinet is fairly nice shape, and decal it, instead of just touching it up. they ruin the cabinet. I value it much less. At that point, I would not buy that game unless it was dirt cheap.

For someone wanting to do a restore, none of that matters. Grab another wpc cabinet, new or used, and on your way. For someone wanting to restore on the cheap they would fix the cabinet. Instead, the op was a greedy sod and two machines that could have been restored are gone.

As for decals, most of us disagree with you. You know what's great? There is room enough in this hobby for everyone as long as people don't trash games.

Please if someone can get me the shitty Funhouse I'd gladly document on pinside what it took to get it from parts to fully working, and bring it to either the Allentown or Pintastic show.

Looking nice, keep up the good work.

You scrapped one machine and gutted a second what is there to love? There are people that would have made good restore projects out of them. That is love.

user "dung" calling other people shitty. if that don't beat all...

I would definitely like to get the EBD parts! Thanks for putting it out there. PM sent.

One FH must die for one too live, nature of the beast.

Op you are just going to have to over look a lot of people on here. Everyone has an opinion and most of the time they are wrong. You own the games. Do whatever you want with them. Sometimes games need parted. Sometimes they need to be restored. Sometimes they need to be burned (I hate termites lol). Who cares what everyone on here thinks

I still say all 3 look very restoreable.. i've fixed up way worse. The playfields look like they should clean up. There's no shortage of parts available. It does get pretty expensive but they're worth it. If they were within driving distance i'd have already snagged them up

If the playfield is half decent... everything else can be redone. If not.. buy a new playfield.. they're out there. New decals on the cab. Strip the top of the playfield... touch it up... get it clear coated.. flame clear any plastic that's worth saving. buy everything else it needs... figure a month or two to redo each game if it doesn't have major board/wiring issues to track down.

Restoration is all dependent on skill level and whether you enjoy doing it or not.

I think machine two was a parts donor. Throw everything left in really bad one and a very skilled and patient person could put something together. The EBD cab was totally trashed from water intrusion. Boards still look good and playfield looked like a possible cleaner upper. I am trying to get Jon in touch with Nevus since I know he needs a playfield for his EBD machine.

Jon is a really nice dude that is trying to rebuild his first working machine. It was a pleasure to meet him on Sunday. The parts from EBD may still help several machines become complete.

except you know the downside of that? You have people anal retentive that decal at the slightest imperfection ruining cabinets left and right. Cabinets that would be great originals. once you decal, you have forever ruined that cabinet. There's not going back at that point. I had to decal a game once. The cabinet wasn't that bad. I offered it for trade for the same cabinet, since it was being decalled anyway, i'd rather start with a outright shit version. let the decent one survive in it's natural glory. Offered as a free cabinet trade.

I don't know why you guys are giving him shit about parting them out. They are not rare games by any means. If there were less than 2000 made or something. Sure. But for a game that has one of the highest production runs. Who cares? part it out. Spread the love to about 30 + other people that need stuff for their games.

There are hopes for game #2, I spoke to Jon yesterday. I'm going to try to help him with game #1 and work out a deal on game #2. Even talked to him about EBD as I maybe able to use boards and other pieces to save another game. I'm going to meet up with him this week and look forward to it.

Neo rather than have this turn nasty let's just say we disagree. We both hold very different views of what ruin means. You want to sit over the nicest original games possible. I get my jollies from bringing back machines you would have considered trash. You go enjoy those machines that some homeowner ignored for 20 years and I will go get my hands dirty with that undesirable trash.

Did anyone actually agree or offer to buy these machines from the OP? I saw a lot of "wish I were closer" bs posts, but couldn't see that anyone actually agreed to buy them?

Saying you "could easily salvage" these games and actually putting down the $$$$ and time to do it are slightly different items...

Yes. This is all happening locally. He's quite a nice guy btw.

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Yes...but I literally would have bought them if I were closer. And you know it from our past transaction! The shipping would have made the price ridiculous in this instance.

I bring back pieces of shit too. Did you see my locomotion restoration thread? I"m not saying give up easy. But some games are to far gone. I don't know if these are or are not. We didn't have enough internal pictures to really know for sure. They may very well be salvageable. if that's the case, he should probably go that route since FH can bring some good coin in nice shape.