I was on the pinball life site and saw three different kits for Williams in the 90's. I was just a little confused on what was different about them. Is it just the part number Williams/Bally used during this time? pinball resource only has one kit for this time.
02/1992-04/1993
http://www.pinballlife.com/index.php?p=product&id=983
08/1993-10/1998
http://www.pinballlife.com/index.php?p=product&id=244
01/1999-06/1999
http://www.pinballlife.com/index.php?p=product&id=978
Quoted from EEE:I know that one main difference is the length of the plunger. If you choose poorly, your IJ flippers wont extend as far as the original ones.
yeah, I found that out when trying to replace the one on my TOM. crazy it's not even that much bigger
Quoted from hocuslocus:I was on the pinball life site and saw three different kits for Williams in the 90's. I was just a little confused on what was different about them. Is it just the part number Williams/Bally used during this time? pinball resource only has one kit for this time.
02/1992-04/1993
http://www.pinballlife.com/index.php?p=product&id=983
08/1993-10/1998
http://www.pinballlife.com/index.php?p=product&id=244
01/1999-06/1999
http://www.pinballlife.com/index.php?p=product&id=978
Call to be sure it is a little confusing .
Quoted from EEE:I know that one main difference is the length of the plunger.
Coil stop, not the plunger. The plunger is the same length. The coil stop varies.
Quoted from RobKnapp:Call to be sure it is a little confusing .
I sent an email yesterday, he got back with me today. He said that all the flipper kits are different and I should order the one that is for my machine. Didn't want to push again for specifics, so figured I'd ask here.
Assuming if there is one, it's minimal. Still would like to know.
Quoted from ForceFlow:Coil stop, not the plunger. The plunger is the same length. The coil stop varies.
so your saying the coil stop is different?
I assumed the guy before meant the actual plunger not the flipper coil armature. Didn't know it was called a plunger also.
The plunger is the metal part that moves through the coil. The coil stop is the part at the end of the coil that the plunger slams into after being pulled into the coil, and stops the plunger from moving any further in through the coil.
Coil stop is shorter on the older games giving the flippers a longer stroke. Somewhere around 92 or 93 they went with a longer coil stop, giving a shorter stroke.
Quoted from hocuslocus:I was on the pinball life site and saw three different kits for Williams in the 90's. I was just a little confused on what was different about them. Is it just the part number Williams/Bally used during this time? pinball resource only has one kit for this time.
02/1992-04/1993
http://www.pinballlife.com/index.php?p=product&id=983
08/1993-10/1998
http://www.pinballlife.com/index.php?p=product&id=244
01/1999-06/1999
http://www.pinballlife.com/index.php?p=product&id=978
I think you want to check out the flipper bushing lengths too, some are longer than others and have those little triangle supports.
03-7568 flipper bushing Achslager Williams Bally (resized).jpg
Quoted from o-din:Coil stop is shorter on the older games giving the flippers a longer stroke. Somewhere around 92 or 93 they went with a longer coil stop, giving a shorter stroke.
I believe the pattern is:
Twilight Zone (WPC-DM) and earlier are shorter (A-12111)
Indiana Jones (WPC-DCS) and later are longer (A-12390)
I have encountered several machines already that had the wrong coil stops installed and those cheap soft metal pawls that come in the above mentioned kits that bend out of shape before you can get them tight.
Quoted from o-din:Coil stop is shorter on the older games giving the flippers a longer stroke. Somewhere around 92 or 93 they went with a longer coil stop, giving a shorter stroke.
that's actually really good info to know. thanks
any flipper kit I've been rebuilding has gotten the wpc-95 stops
Quoted from gmkalos:I think you want to check out the flipper bushing lengths too, some are longer than others and have those little triangle supports.
man, I hope not. I'll do a bit of research through some manuals, to see if I can spot some different part numbers.
I know modern sterns are easily distinguishable from Williams.
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