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Flight 2000 Club - members and fans welcome!


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#1501 14 days ago

Reaper802 am not familiar with it and STL file. Is it for 3D print? How can I use the file to make them? This is a lost World for me, lol. Please let me know

#1502 14 days ago

DanMarino, going back to that annoying sound coming consistently from speaker, I first toughed it was speaker doing it as I bought it with a small hole punched thru. Replaced speaker and nothing. After I burned the VSU-100, that humming noise was still there the same, so I toughed it must have been sound card. I replaced it with new sound card, but that noise continued till recently ended with replacing VSU-2.

#1503 14 days ago
Quoted from emsrph:

Having pinball machines you either have to learn to fix them or pay someone to fix them.

Ain't that the truth. I say that to everyone who thinks they want to buy one even if it's one I'm selling.

#1504 14 days ago
Quoted from turboburt1:

DanMarino, going back to that annoying sound coming consistently from speaker, I first toughed it was speaker doing it as I bought it with a small hole punched thru. Replaced speaker and nothing. After I burned the VSU-100, that humming noise was still there the same, so I toughed it must have been sound card. I replaced it with new sound card, but that noise continued till recently ended with replacing VSU-2.

This is good to know. I have the humming on f2k and catacomb which is even louder. It does go down when I lower the volume pot when the game is powered up but idle. Picking up a vs2 tomorrow as I am local to these guys.

#1505 14 days ago

I have zero hum coming from my f2k. I think it comes from a ground issue. I am still using stock sound and speech boards but I have recapped the sound board. Also repinned entire game's connectors.

One improvement I made was to the ground strap from the head going to the grounding plate behind the boards. The strap just had a single staple there so I added a screw to make a tighter connection. All boards are screwed down and grounded.

Another cause may be from the large caps on sol driver causing some feedback imo.

Make sure your cab grounds are solid and most importantly the AC plug has it's ground prong. You can also try grounding the speaker frame. I don't think Stern did that lime Bally did.

#1506 14 days ago
Quoted from Lovef2k:

I have zero hum coming from my f2k. I think it comes from a ground issue. I am still using stock sound and speech boards but I have recapped the sound board. Also repinned entire game's connectors.
One improvement I made was to the ground strap from the head going to the grounding plate behind the boards. The strap just had a single staple there so I added a screw to make a tighter connection. All boards are screwed down and grounded.
Another cause may be from the large caps on sol driver causing some feedback imo.
Make sure your cab grounds are solid and most importantly the AC plug has it's ground prong. You can also try grounding the speaker frame. I don't think Stern did that lime Bally did.

Thanks f2k. I tend to agree with your angle here. Definitely sounds like some type of ground issue. I'll start with the actual power cord and work my way back and try the vs2. I have a hum on centaur too so I think itz a ground pronlem

#1507 14 days ago
Quoted from turboburt1:

Reaper802 am not familiar with it and STL file. Is it for 3D print? How can I use the file to make them? This is a lost World for me, lol. Please let me know

Yes, normally you would use an STL on a 3D printer. It could also be used on a CNC machine to cut them out of stainless steel.

#1508 14 days ago

About the humming noise, thanks for the tip about improving the grounds. I'll look into that. I also need a new speaker. My original speaker is torn and doesn't look so great. haha. Can any 6 inch (just a guess on size) speaker work down there?

Also thanks for the inlane plastics traced on the graph paper. I've printed it out to scale and will try to use it to make a clear Lexan version to fit under my broken original left inlane.

#1509 14 days ago
Quoted from DanMarino:

Can any 6 inch (just a guess on size) speaker work down there?

full range with matching impedance (ohms). Pretty sure they are 8 ohm. I can check. I found some decent replacements on amazon for cheap. Like 9 bucks I think. I will take a look in a bit. I would avoid the car speakers with the separate tweeter. Tried one of those in my embryon and it sounded tinny.

RB

#1510 14 days ago
Quoted from rcbrown316:

full range with matching impedance (ohms). Pretty sure they are 8 ohm. I can check. I found some decent replacements on amazon for cheap. Like 9 bucks I think. I will take a look in a bit. I would avoid the car speakers with the separate tweeter. Tried one of those in my embryon and it sounded tinny.
RB

Awesome rcbrown. Yes, an Amazon link would be fantastic for the speaker.

#1511 14 days ago
Quoted from DanMarino:

Awesome rcbrown. Yes, an Amazon link would be fantastic for the speaker.

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#1513 13 days ago
Quoted from slochar:

Grounding the tab doesn't test the transistor it only tests the power path. It is likely a bad transistor and needs to be replaced.

Burned out resistor for that transistor on the back of the board

#1514 10 days ago

Got my new VSU2. 2 days from order to delivery. Great service from Glodstone. I can't wait to try it out.

#1515 10 days ago

The past 2 or 3 evenings I have been playing our Flight 2000 with my 23 year old son. He has a pretty stressful job and usually hits the basement when he gets home from work to unwind watching YouTube. However, my son really seems to be enjoying the machine now that our Flight 2000 is getting more reliable. The last several evenings we have struggled to "BLAST OFF". Typically we get the letters spelled on ball #3, but end up draining while doing the count down or before we can get the ball up into the launcher mechanism. Last night my son blasted off and got the multi-ball, only to have 2 of the balls drain down the middle almost immediately. haha. After about 6 games together I bailed out and he told me that the game is a lot of fun now that it is playing so well and we've fixed it up so much. I was talking to him to see if he was interested in getting rid of the game and upgrading to something modern and he certainly thinks Flight 2000 is a keeper.

#1516 10 days ago
Quoted from DanMarino:

The past 2 or 3 evenings I have been playing our Flight 2000 with my 23 year old son. He has a pretty stressful job and usually hits the basement when he gets home from work to unwind watching YouTube. However, my son really seems to be enjoying the machine now that our Flight 2000 is getting more reliable. The last several evenings we have struggled to "BLAST OFF". Typically we get the letters spelled on ball #3, but end up draining while doing the count down or before we can get the ball up into the launcher mechanism. Last night my son blasted off and got the multi-ball, only to have 2 of the balls drain down the middle almost immediately. haha. After about 6 games together I bailed out and he told me that the game is a lot of fun now that it is playing so well and we've fixed it up so much. I was talking to him to see if he was interested in getting rid of the game and upgrading to something modern and he certainly thinks Flight 2000 is a keeper.

haha I get multiball on f2k about 4 times a year and they all drain almost immediately. Don't sell it. All the new stuff is too easy with the ball saves and multiball pretty much every game. I went through a bunch of them and now most are gone. I bought my f2k years ago and did a full restore with clearcoat and the whole nine yards. Yesterday I went through it tweaked it up, adjusted the flippers, waxed it and put some 1x4's under the back legs. I'd much rather play that then metallica.

#1517 10 days ago

I have trouble getting BLAST OFF on a 5 ball game let alone 3 ball. F2k can be a drain monster sometimes. That upper left kicker shoots ball to right outline gets be often and makes me so mad lol.

But every once in a while there's that game where everything falls into place and you have great game. My high score is in the 6 million range so far.

#1518 9 days ago
Quoted from DanMarino:

The past 2 or 3 evenings I have been playing our Flight 2000 with my 23 year old son. He has a pretty stressful job and usually hits the basement when he gets home from work to unwind watching YouTube. However, my son really seems to be enjoying the machine now that our Flight 2000 is getting more reliable. The last several evenings we have struggled to "BLAST OFF". Typically we get the letters spelled on ball #3, but end up draining while doing the count down or before we can get the ball up into the launcher mechanism. Last night my son blasted off and got the multi-ball, only to have 2 of the balls drain down the middle almost immediately. haha. After about 6 games together I bailed out and he told me that the game is a lot of fun now that it is playing so well and we've fixed it up so much. I was talking to him to see if he was interested in getting rid of the game and upgrading to something modern and he certainly thinks Flight 2000 is a keeper.

Although a multiball can be exhilarating on F2K just acheiving one is the fun , after 2 drain , left spinner ALL DAY !!!!! ... it can be a lot of just "chopping wood"

#1519 9 days ago

6 million sounds crazy. The saved high score on our machine is over 5 million. My son's goal is to beat that score.
I didn't realize people play on the 5 ball setting. What other dip switch settings do you use?
I think ours is set to all the standard settings.

#1520 9 days ago

Switch 7 "on" gets 5 balls, 14 "on" gets you background sound, 17 "on" gets speech.

Do you have a manual? Switch settings are on page 10 and beyond. If you don't, look here: https://www.ipdb.org/files/887/Stern_1980_Flight_2000_Manual.pdf

Our game is on 5 balls, and my wife is the high score owner at about 4.7 million. 7 really is good.

#1521 8 days ago
Quoted from DanMarino:

6 million sounds crazy. The saved high score on our machine is over 5 million. My son's goal is to beat that score.
I didn't realize people play on the 5 ball setting. What other dip switch settings do you use?
I think ours is set to all the standard settings.

Yeah 5 ball is for wimps but it's my game lol. I also set awards for extra balls instead of free games to make the game last as long as possible.

#1522 8 days ago
Quoted from Lovef2k:

Yeah 5 ball is for wimps but it's my game lol. I also set awards for extra balls instead of free games to make the game last as long as possible.

I usually just "Eddie Murphy" the thing https://funwithbonus.com/new-pinball-dictionary-eddie-murphy/

#1523 8 days ago

Dang, I must be hard core or old school. Haha. 3 balls. No extra balls. Had my first game just over 2 million last night.
For me, the hardest letters to get are both of the "F"s.

#1524 8 days ago

What’s everybody’s settings for certain features such as the spinner (sw.22), Apollo lites (sw.24), bonus multiplier (sw.30)...

#1525 8 days ago
Quoted from Xtraball:

What’s everybody’s settings for certain features such as the spinner (sw.22), Apollo lites (sw.24), bonus multiplier (sw.30)...

carry spinner, so you have a continuing ball to ball goal
reset multiplier, so you have a this ball only goal
apollo lights off, otherwise carryover game to game of locked balls unfair

Since I have the modified software in mine multiball can be slightly easier to obtain due to the skill shot spotting letters, but I also have that set to progressive mutliball launch - first one is 5-4-3-2-1 only but subsequent ones require full countdown (drops in order twice)

Also I have the center special set to payout extra balls but the outlanes ones pay out specials. There's no spot blast on the center drop anymore (just single letters with the quick shot)

#1526 7 days ago

Off the top of my head, these are the dip switch settings I can remember.

3 balls.
No extra balls awarded.
Speech and sounds on.
The right spinner value is reset after each ball.
The multiplier is reset after each ball.
I think Apollo lights are off after each game, but light up after spelling "BLAST-OFF".
However, locked balls stay in the launcher between games.

#1527 7 days ago
Quoted from DanMarino:

Off the top of my head, these are the dip switch settings I can remember.
3 balls.
No extra balls awarded.
Speech and sounds on.
The right spinner value is reset after each ball.
The multiplier is reset after each ball.
I think Apollo lights are off after each game, but light up after spelling "BLAST-OFF".
However, locked balls stay in the launcher between games.

Mine is set the same with the addition to spot each "f" independently
The balls DO stay in the walker between games until rebooted (still have to light the lock even if the ball is there)
I would think this is the way the machine would be setup for tournament / location play

Quoted from slochar:

carry spinner, so you have a continuing ball to ball goal
reset multiplier, so you have a this ball only goal
apollo lights off, otherwise carryover game to game of locked balls unfair
Since I have the modified software in mine multiball can be slightly easier to obtain due to the skill shot spotting letters, but I also have that set to progressive mutliball launch - first one is 5-4-3-2-1 only but subsequent ones require full countdown (drops in order twice)
Also I have the center special set to payout extra balls but the outlanes ones pay out specials. There's no spot blast on the center drop anymore (just single letters with the quick shot)

I want to install your new code & try it , but I'm trying to decide between rewiring the machine or not ( I probably will and place tags on the swapped conductors ) I'm also trying to decide on burning over the existing ROMS (they have the window on the chip) -or- finding replacement chips.

THEN I'd have to have to have a friend burn them for me, he said he's got the stuff to do it

#1528 6 days ago

so after i went through and tweaked it up my gal, as usual, destroyed me on the first game. We do play all of our games on 5-ball but they are insanely fast. I'm a pretty decent player and usually dont break 600k-700k.

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#1529 6 days ago
Quoted from rcbrown316:

so after i went through and tweaked it up my gal, as usual, destroyed me on the first game. We do play all of our games on 5-ball but they are insanely fast. I'm a pretty decent player and usually dont break 600k-700k.
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3 of my favorites in your pic. I'm jelly

#1530 6 days ago
Quoted from Lovef2k:

3 of my favorites in your pic. I'm jelly

seeing you and your f2k at pinfest quite a long time ago inspired me!

RB

#1531 6 days ago
Quoted from rcbrown316:

seeing you and your f2k at pinfest quite a long time ago inspired me!
RB

If I change one life for the better it's all worth it. Hope to see you in July. F2k is staying home this time. It's set up in the mancave now and I don't want to move her.

If I can get it finished in time, I'm bringing a nice HS with a new hardtop and possibly a Spy Hunter.

#1532 6 days ago

Dang, you guys have some great looking Flight 2000 machines. Mine looks very tired compared to the restorations you guys have.

#1533 16 hours ago

3ball game and F's independent is a Scifi for me. I have seen pro playing in on Youtube, it was insane. Am the opposite, lol. I thing I have all advantages switched on MPU. I would not less long. 5ball more chance to reach multi. Just saying.

#1534 13 hours ago

Our game came to us years ago from a guy who's now very high on the Stern Pro Tour. He had it set at 3 balls, no advantages and jacked up so high the playfield looked like a ski jump. His high score was still higher than we've managed with 5 balls and friendlier set-up.

#1535 12 minutes ago

How do you guys like to align your flippers? I see there are pins in the playfield below the flippers, but I'm not exactly sure what those are for. Visually, I think it looks best when the flippers align at the same downward angles as the in-lanes. Is there a flipper position that is ideal for playing the game?

#1536 3 minutes ago

I'll just leave this here with my fingers crossed. Sometimes owners have 2 games on hand to make 1 good one, then have a project left over

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