This is as close to switch test mode I can get to.. Doesn’t work though..

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Connection to coin door looks solid..

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I know it's frustrating, check tilt bob, tilt ball, reset all connectors, make sure everything is grounded and screws are tight.
throw a quarter in the coin slot just to see!

I know you've done all of the above, but we've all been there!
I'm sure it will boot up!!!

Yeah game boots up fine just doesn't start a game.. Tonight I am going to makesure all connectors are tight and check all tilts. Thanks for the input..

Forgot about this-
From my $50 Flash Thread

“Try opening the coin door, then turn the game on, then off, then on again. I believe all system 7 games do that when new batteries are installed.”

Pinball ninja has the instructions on his site. Maybe Clay can help you out. Can’t remember his pinside name right now.

If anyone can help me out I heard that there's an upgrade for Flippers mine are kind of weak does anybody know about this upgrade?

Yeah me too, but mine was replace by my tech. Hopefully this weekend I'll figure it out..

I put system 11 mechs into mine. It works just fine. I think it plays better, but not by a huge margin. I would definitely suggest swapping out the flipper bats and pawl. From that alone you'll get less "bounce" when your flippers return to their lowered positions (since the bats are lighter), snappier action, and easier adjustment.

Thanks for the info. Where can I get these?

So the loose glass on my score display in my Flash (and another one on my Firepower) inspired me to create a bracket that helps hold the display glass against the PCB. I posted a thread about it here which has a link to a video showing how it works: https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/new-product-for-williams-system-3-6-pinball-machines-from-k

Thanks for checking it out!

-Rob
-visit http://www.kahr.us to get my daughterboard that helps fix WPC pinball resets or for my Williams system 3-7 sound board potentiometer solutions

Finally bought my 1st ss game..thought that flash would be a good game to start with. Even got the green light from the g friend!

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I have my Flash thats working about 90%...but I still have a few bugs to work out.

#1 issue - Once the ball drops in the upper outhole it kicks out the ball but holds the coil energized and ends up burning out the coil...Transistor?
#2 issue - the 3 bank flash drop target arrow lights dont move in a sequence like the 5 bank flash drop targets do.?????
#3 issue - cant seem to get the 3X multiplier even after the ball drops through #4 and sounds like the switch registers but no lamp or 3X lamp lit below??
#4 issue - Number 6 lamp in the circular center playfield area almost near the flippers never lights up, even with new bulbs/leds in?

If anyone has any info they would like to share, guideance etc, id be much appreciative. Thanks in advance.

Hi

Could someone please send me a high res photo of an excellent condition backglass for Williams Flash? I would also take lower playfield photo, from his abs down. Mine is not so great. I need to work on my abs too.

Chris

I've been re-doing the artwork in photoshop as a fun diversion on and off for many months. I have a beat backglass but no game. The artwork isn't done yet but it is coming along. When I'm done you can have a copy of the jpg.

Thanks! Catch86

I've had my flash for about 3 years, and I'm finally getting around to fixing the Flasher. Before getting too deep into the troubleshooting, could someone please *post a picture of the wiring* on their flash bulb resistor board? I have a feeling mine is wired incorrectly. I'm also pretty sure the smaller resistor is wrong.

Any help is appreciated!

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Not my pics but it might help.
https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/flash-owners-clubofficial/page/4#post-3607758

VERY helpful, thank you! I had a hunch I had the wrong value of transistor for the smaller one. I replaced it with the proper 1 ohm resistor and all is working now. Thanks guys!

Just put 2 led flashers in for the flash insert - and they’re now on all the time. Is this normal? There is a flash when there is supposed to be, but it’s always lit.

Mine does the same thing. I'm thinking they shouldn't be lit all the time and it has something to do with the LEDs. I actually just left mine because I like how it looks ha, but I don't think it's correct since it doesn't behave that way when regular bulbs are in there. I don't have a fix unfortunately...

The small board under the playfield is for the flashers. The large resistor there is the warming resistor. It preheats the 89 bulb elements to increase their life. If you have LED flashers, you do not want the warming resistor connected as the amount of current provided by the warming resistor will keep the LED flashers lit all the time. You can clip off one leg of the large resistor and you will be good to go. Here is a picture from my firepower but it's the same.

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Rock on, I'll try today, thanks!

New guy! Picked up a Flash at pinfest yesterday. Needs some love but it looks decent. It's my first SS and should be interesting project. It's not doing much of anything right now though. You turn it on and some lights on the playfield and back box light up, but that's it.

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Anyone been able to source the original flippers with a longer shaft?

Picked up a project flash at expo. Didn't boot, no GI. Attempted to replace the PROM sockets, ended up lifting traces so I had little choice but to buy the rottendog board. Sort of glad I did because beyond the CPU, the driverboard resistors were getting really warm without even starting a game (which concerned me that coils might lock on when the new board got installed). Kept the coil connector disconnected to make sure it at least booted and started game. Coils seemed ok, so took a chance and plugged in the connector. Surprised every coil but the upper flipper worked (need to see what's going on). This thing had to be sitting in storage for at least a decade (maybe two). Every rubber turned to dust when I tried to pop them off, many stuck to the post. Found a big pile of green pellets (I assume rat poison) underneath the ball trough.

My other issue, on the right sling it has the shaft assembly, but is missing the coil, spring, and bracket. I believe pinball life has everything I need?
https://www.pinballlife.com/williamsbally-coil-bracket-a-17808.html
https://www.pinballlife.com/williams-sg1-23-850-dc-coil.html
https://www.pinballlife.com/pop-bumper-spring-large.html

Beyond that, it's little tweaks (switch adjustments, few bad bulb holders). Here's a photo of initial boot, and then after I added LED's to the playfield and novus'd it
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So one thing I wanted to fix on my backbox are the lamp boxes, especially my busted one in the upper left corner. I 3d printed a new one and double sided it up (but left screw holes for mounting permanently):
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I'd be willing to model all the boxes up if flash owners are interested.

Pinball Life has a few light baffles available as well.

https://www.pinballlife.com/search.html?Search=Light%20Baffle

Ah, I knew Scott made one for CFTBL, didn't realize he was making those too.

Always wondered what to call those.

Made some instruction cards because I didn't see any on pinballcards.com

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In like Flynn!

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Hey guys! Just swapped an old EM for a Flash project pin. Super excited to play it.

Right now, nothing happens so I am suspecting a power problem. Checking the power supply board, I replaced the fuses but I noticed that what was in it is different than the manual. what came with it was fuses in the left 3 fuse holders (unused, F2,F3,F5) and the one labeled F1 was empty. Based on the schematic I put the correct fuses in (F1, F2, F3, F5) but it keeps blowing F1.

So now I am wondering if I am doing it right. Can you guys tell me what you have for your Flash?
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Here's a great guide. I filtered to show only Vid's posts:

https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/vids-guide-to-bulletproofing-williams-system-6?tq=&tu=vid1900

What size u put in f1 can't read mine might be 30

The manual picture above says 1/4 amp slo blow. Is that only for the display high voltage?

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F1 1/4 is what I have.

Making progress! I checked the diodes and caps then put in a 1/4 sloblo fuse and plugged it in.

Fire!

Looks like its shorting on the backside of the board. At least the problem is easy to spot!

Update: After cleaning it out with a wire brush, I don't see anything obvious. I'm going to assume its slightly out of whack, allowing the trace to touch the metal (grounded) mounting frame and the green insulation layer was gone there so it shorted. I've got some new insulating paint on order and I think I will put a couple of washers on the bolts to physically lift the boards from the mount but still allow it to touch at the bolt-points for grounding. We will see!

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Currently working on mine and see picture here miss black color on the 100(0)

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I’ve had my Flash for a while waiting to be worked on. The playfield has some wear and the backglass is ok. If I find a better playfield, I’ll maybe swap it out. Hopefully once I get the MPU repaired it should be good as new. I love the vintage sounds on these!

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your playfield is not so bad I've seen them worse

Can someone point me to where I can find the sound rom.

http://www.actionpinball.com/parts.php?item=ROMS116 look here

my first clearcoat

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That looks great already. Did you repaint a lot of it.

yes I have touch up a lot and black was the most

Getting close to starting on my flash. A couple of questions. Earlier in the thread there were various mentions of flipper upgrades and mention of using system 11’s. Is this a common thing? Does the game need stronger coils or is this just normal cleaning and repair?

Second question is I think more style/preference. In the flyer the game uses only white flipper bands yet all the kits and most pics show red. Similarly in the flyer it shows a combination Of red and blue posts but everyone always seems to use only blue posts. Is it just a preference thing or am I missing something?