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Flash Gordon sound rom chips swap issue


By aKa

4 years ago



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#1 4 years ago

I recently acquired a Flash Gordon in France, with French speech. As I always preferred the original English speech, I bought two new U2 and U5 rom chips from here : http://www.ministryofpinball.com/en/flash-gordon-sound-rom-u2.html

As I half suspected, I get no sound at all when the new chips are installed, and the S&T led doesn't blink, it just stays lit. No issues with the French chips.

My French chips bare a sticker with 834-33 (for U2) and 834-34 (for U5) written on them, if it's of any interest.

I read something about jumpers, but I have no idea where they are located, and the manual isn't of any help.

Any suggestions ?

#2 4 years ago

Have a look here:
http://pinwiki.com/wiki/index.php?title=Bally/Stern#Squawk_.26_Talk_Jumper_Settings

If you still can't work it out, come back with the model of EPROM chips that MinistryOfPinball supplied (2532 or 2732) and the French ROM model you currently have (2532 or 2732).

#3 4 years ago
Quoted from Quench:

the model of EPROM chips that MinistryOfPinball supplied (2532 or 2732)

It's not on the chips and they didn't specify, but I can contact them.

Quoted from Quench:

and the French ROM model you currently have (2532 or 2732)

Not sure how to determine that ...

By looking closer at the S&T board, now knowing where the jumpers are, I can see that L was cut and K soldered later.
Since these seem to be the variable to play with on the matter on hand, should I try to cut K and put L back ?

#4 4 years ago

The L and K jumpers refer to the type of CPU and system memory used on the board. They don't refer to the ROM type, so don't touch those jumpers.

If you can post a clear picture of your S&T board, we may be able to work out how it's currently jumpered.

The EPROM model numbers are etched on the chips - they're probably hiding under stickers. See below:

2x32.jpg

#5 4 years ago

All right, the French chips are 2532. The new ones are 2732.

Here's a pic of the jumpers on the S&T board :
S&T_with_French_sound_rom_chips_(resized).jpg

#6 4 years ago

Thanks, that clears things up.
Ok, so for ROM U2, you need to cut/remove the wire links across "D" and "G" and then install a wire link across "F" and another wire link across "P"
For ROM U5, you need to cut/remove the wire links across "Y" and "AA", and then install wire link across "Z" and another wire link across "BB"

See picture below (sorry it's low resolution but your original large picture is coming through corrupted).

FG_S&Ta.jpg

#7 4 years ago

The picture and instructions are very clear, and I had this figured out thanks to your previous link.
I'll get right on it when I find the time and report back. Thanks !

#8 4 years ago

Success !

It's the dirtiest soldering job I've made, but it works so who cares ...

Emperor Ming now awaits !

#9 4 years ago

What is FLASH in French?

#10 4 years ago
Quoted from kursiv:

What is FLASH in French?

It's FLASH, with a cheesy accent.

#11 4 years ago

Well don't change anything.

#12 4 years ago

My Flash Gordon was imported to Australia from Zimbabwe. The speech & sound roms were original factory roms, the speech rom was the French version, so the game spent it's life in a country which French is not an official language! so I'm guessing not many players would have understood the speech.

#13 4 years ago
Quoted from Joydivision:

My Flash Gordon was imported to Australia from Zimbabwe. The speech & sound roms were original factory roms, the speech rom was the French version

Did you end up putting the English speech ROMs on it?

#14 4 years ago

I have a Xenon sound board with original French roms that I found on a vacation to Paris in 1995. What a disappointment it was to discover that most of the French speech was done in a male voice. Just imagine how super sexy a French Suzanne Ciani would have been.

#15 4 years ago
Quoted from Quench:

Did you end up putting the English speech ROMs on it?

Yes, put some English speech ROMs in.

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