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Flash battery button

By Pepz28ss

4 years ago


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    #1 4 years ago

    Does anyone know what type/size of blocking dioed to use if you have to replace the original glass type. For installing a battery button. Lithium cell. It's been recommended but I'm not sure what to replace it with. Thanks....

    #2 4 years ago

    Williams flash pinball

    #3 4 years ago

    the battery charge blocking diode is 1n4148 the System Vcc block diode so the entire CPU board does not try and be powered by the batteries in 1n5817 (low voltage drop).
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    #4 4 years ago

    You might be thinking of Bally boards. You shouldn't need to add a blocking diode when converting AA batteries to button cell on Williams boards.

    #5 4 years ago

    Your right, it already has one. But it is a GLASS type diode and when they crack it allows voltage to flow back to the cell and they can explode.I rather not take that chance and just put a non GLASS type diode in the original one place. MY QUESTION IS WHAT IS THE VALUE OR NUMBER ,TYPE OF DIODE DO I USE AS IF MY ORIGINAL ONE IS BAD OR MISSING.. Williams system 4.

    #6 4 years ago
    Quoted from Pepz28ss:

    But it is a GLASS type diode and when they crack it allows voltage to flow back to the cell and they can explode.I rather not take that chance

    This is the reason I don't like using a lithium button batteries for this application - just in case the original or even a better replacement diode fails.

    An alternative backup method that works well is by installing 2 x 1.5 farad supercaps in parallel instead of a lithium battery. I think I got more than 2 months backup with this (on a system 6 game).

    I think from memory the easiest way was to connect direct to one side of the blocking diode to allow the power to flow to the caps with a 100ohm resistor to regulate the current.

    Also, if doing supercap conversion, best to have a Philips PCD5101 as they have the least current draw of all the 5101's.

    #7 4 years ago

    That's a new one to me but sounds good.. I done some more research this morning and found one of Todd's Tips referencing to use a 1n4004 or 1n4007 ,, the same type for flipper coils. That is the right size from looking at one. I will go with that. Thanks everyone for your advice. I'm new to pin side so thanks for the warm welcome...

    #8 4 years ago
    Quoted from Pepz28ss:

    MY QUESTION IS WHAT IS THE VALUE OR NUMBER ,TYPE OF DIODE DO I USE AS IF MY ORIGINAL ONE IS BAD OR MISSING..

    A 1N5817 diode is a much better choice than a 1N4004/4007. As barakandl mentioned the 1N5817 has a very low voltage drop which gives the 5101 RAM chip very close to battery voltage.

    #9 4 years ago

    Okay I will check this out.. Thanks

    #10 4 years ago
    Quoted from Pepz28ss:

    That's a new one to me but sounds good.. I done some more research this morning and found one of Todd's Tips referencing to use a 1n4004 or 1n4007 ,, the same type for flipper coils. That is the right size from looking at one. I will go with that. Thanks everyone for your advice. I'm new to pin side so thanks for the warm welcome...

    Why not just put nvram in it and not worry about batteries at all?

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    #11 4 years ago

    Im not looking to go that route. Everything is done I just want to r&r the diode that's already there. That's it

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