I am so tempted. Those RadCals look incredible, but I would still wanna prep and paint cab and that sounds like I'm working on it and not playing it and that's not how we roll.

Fwiw: Dave did respond today.

Good response?

Mirco has a *sort of* rad cal install video on their Facebook page. They have a link to it on the other thread. Looks suspiciously too easy

Had I not *just* bought a set of screenprinted decals for my Funhouse, I probably would have bought a set for FH and FT and taken advantage of their $30 off each of you buy two deal. $339 shipped sounds good to me.

I don't blame them. If they gave you the files to print it yourself then what is stopping you from sending it to everyone to print their own. That would be a very bad business decision on their part.

Yes.

I’m quite happy with their product

You've got a reset issue, quite often caused by the watchdog circuit that monitors 5V on the driver board which will shut down the MPU and then restart if the voltage drops below a certain point. It could be other issues also but that's the most likely, it's difficult to diagnose the exact cause going off the vid.

The reset MIGHT be something the Kahr daughterboard can prevent/fix?

http://kahr.us - You can PM him too: rkahr

I had that on Road Show occasionally when both flippers we pressed. Not sure if this is compatible on FT, but I think it's a WPC game.

Anyone ever use those RadCals decals and just stuck them on? I've never done decals. I was tempted to give it a try on my FT. I replaced the side trim so that would of been a good time to do it. Thought process was it wasn't worth the expense and all the added work. My cab is mostly straight so maybe I can just slap those decals on. Sure it would be better to strip everything down, do body work, get everything laser straight and all but I'm okay with getting like 90% there with fraction of the work.

There’s a detailed description of ways to address WPC reset issues on pinwiki:

http://www.pinwiki.com/wiki/index.php?title=Williams_WPC#Game_resets

Looks like it's hitting the ball guide so yer suggestion about leveling it just right makes more sense now.
Also...just noticed this is a Diamond Plate! Were all FT Diamond Plate pf's or just the lucky ones?

Googled FT Diamond Plate pf and found a 10 yr old thread on RGP in which LTG answered that yes, all FT pf's were diamond plate.
Which makes me wonder....if you have an original, diamond plate pf, why would you wanna replace it with a PPS remake instead of restoring the one you have?

I've heard that nobody has ever seen an FT that was not Diamond Plate. Same with T2, which was the first game to get Diamond Plate for the full production run.

It's also in your manual:
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It all depends on the condition of the one you have. So many of the older playfields are just beat to shit. Lots of insert wear, chipping, etc. Add to that, blown out screw holes where things have been removed and reinstalled numerous times. On the last few restorations I did, I used nothing but new playfields because the originals were just too far gone.

Diamond Plate is just what Williams called clear coating at that time.

Finally finished my fish tales restore minus the handle still needs to get powder coated and going to add a colour DMD.

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Heres one i finished last month for a customer

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And here is one ill be starting in a couple weeks for another customer.
This one will i will be going with Rad-cals (first time using) and will be touching up an original playfield.
Will be a green candy powdercoat with blue candy ramps.

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Let us know how that goes.

Reset issue may not happen all the time. It could just be an intermittent issue. It is likely that you have this issue. If you research the link above it will tell you how to fix it. Pinwiki is a life saver.

Can someone tell me what the 100,000 pt jackpot is?

Where you folks goin for strategy tips? Is there a rules write up somewhere?
Sorry for all the dumb questions...new owner here.

http://pinball.org/rules/fishtales.html

100mill jackpots start after finishing the 3 tackle box jacks. Then if you do it again it's 200mill, then 300mill, etc...

Strategy for GC is Super Jacks period.

Strat for a tourney might be a combo of Monster Fish/Multiball....

THANKS TOM!

Can someone tell me if my pop bumper lamp sockets are wired up properly? I have a gi short issue that I cannot figure out. Back half of gi and pop lamps are out and blowing f108 on boot. Don't think it was an issue until after I did a deep shop to it. I pulled the pop bumper off to replace parts including replacing one of the lamp sockets. I'm pretty sure I wired the pop bumper sockets exactly like it was before but maybe something was wrong to begin with. I'm not real good with these sort of issues so just trying to eliminate possibilities.

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This is the one that helped me figure out that my drop target wasn't dropping on it's own for the Casters Club during multi-ball.

Fish Tales

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Keefer's Guide to Fish Tales
V 1.3.2 - 10-Jun-95
*** FINAL VERSION ***
This rules compilation is freely distributable. I retain any and all rights to this guide. You may even take this guide and change it or use it in other manners and then redistribute it as long as it remains freely distributable and this policy is stated at the beginning of it. No charge may ever be made for distributing this guide and no one may make a profit from it. Please send any comments/updates/suggestions/corrections.

Fish Tales is probably a registered trademark of Williams Electronics, etc. etc. So there.

No holds are barred in this Guide. I'm going to talk about EVERYTHING I know about. If you really want to learn all the undocumented features yourself, then stop reading!

Important Things

This section describes key elements and/or shots to be made in Fish Tales. They will be constantly referred to in the play discussion.

Rod
This is the auto-plunging device on Fish Tales. It's a little fishing rod handle with a button on the top of it. Hit the button to launch the ball. You also use the button during video mode to launch torpedos. Really.
Autocast
This is a timed device designed to protect you from instant drains. While it is flashing, you will get any ball back that you lose, instantly. If the game sees it hit an outlane microswitch, you'll get the next one before it even finishes draining! If you can death-save the ball you lost, you can have a mini-multiball. It is on briefly when a ball is launched from the Reel during a multi-player game, even though it isn't lit.
Long Cast
This is the right looping shot, exactly like the Chase Loop in Terminator 2. Making this shot when lit scores million+, and lights the next thing on the captive ball. If this shot is not lit, then the upper left gate will be closed, and the ball will go into one of the LIE lanes.
LIE lanes
Spell LIE to increase your bonus multiplier up to 7x. After 7x, each LIE made will be worth 5M, 10M, 15M, then 20M for then on (until you lose the ball (unless you had bonus held)). Don't forget you can change which lanes are lit with either flipper button, so you should never repeat a letter.
Boat
This is the inclined plastic figure right in the center of the game. There are 3 shots: The left ramp, the right ramp, and the captive ball. Because it is inclined, it is harder to hit the ball than on most other games with one (like Earthshaker). Any one of these 3 shots counts as a "boat shot" during Rock the Boat.
Captive ball
The captive ball is trapped in the middle of the boat. A dead-on shot will send it up to the top, where there is a target that it can trigger. If you don't hit it hard enough, it won't hit the switch. Only hitting the switch has any effect and counts as a captive ball hit.
Eject hole
This shot is equivalent to the Escape Route shot on T2. You usually get it by shooting up the left side, through the spinner, and into the hole. However, whatever it is lit for, you can still get it if it just happens to plop in there (if it's bouncing around the LIE lanes, for example). This is where you collect the regular Jackpot, the Fish Finder, and Video Mode.
Fish Finder
If you hit the Fish Finder, you are given ("randomly") one of several awards from points to multiball to light extra ball.
Video Mode
Lit by hitting the 2nd value on the captive ball. Shooting the eject hole will start it, and you have to shoot boats with water skiers going across the screen at 3 different distances.
Stringers
There are 2 targets on the left and right sides near the slingshots which have a 3-part fish in front of them. Hitting either target spots one of the segments, and a whole fish lights a Stringer, which is one of the 4 big fish with lights in them on the lower part of the playfield, just under the boat. This also lights the spinner for "Stretch the Truth" for 10-15 seconds. 4 Stringers starts the Feeding Frenzy.
Spinner
Located on the left lane shot. Note that any spinner award (Stretch the Truth or Monster Fish) just needs to barely get it to go around to get credit. Also note that hitting the spinner from the wrong direction (as from a Long Cast) DOESN'T count.
Stretch the Truth
When lit, scores 1 tale (for end-of-ball bonus, and the current set of 4 is displayed under the stringers) per Stringer you have hit before the award times out. The value of your fish ranges from 0-5M per fish. 4 tales starts a 30 second Rock the Boat.
Feeding Frenzy
There are 4 purple fish you need to hit. One on each of the ramp shots, one along the Long Cast, and one at the spinner. You have 15 seconds to hit a fish for 5M points. Doing so gives you another 15 seconds to hit the next one, etc., until you have 15 seconds to hit the last fish for 20M points (a total of 35M).
Rock the Boat
For a certain amount of time (20 seconds from the captive ball award; 30 seconds for 4 tales), each boat shot counts 10M (including U-turns).
Monster Fish
Right under the boat is a string of 6 fish (a "school" of fish - look closely!). Each time you make a LIT ramp shot, you light another fish. Getting all 6 lights the spinner for the Monster Fish award, which is a hurry-up award.
Caster's Club
A fairly hard-to-hit shot where you shoot balls to lock them. The balls don't even stay here; the game kicks them up a habitrail which leads to the reel all the way on the left side of the game.
Reel
Nothing really important, except this is where balls are stored. It can spin to accept new balls, or to let a ball out to have it kicked back into play. Balls kicked out go around the top of the machine and out a habitrail aimed for your left flipper.
What Lights What

The left return lane ALWAYS lights the Long Cast. (The light is always on.) Also, shooting the ball up the right loop while Long Cast is NOT lit will light Long Cast (seemingly until you make the shot). After making a Long Cast or lighting it from the left return lane, it will time out after 10-15 seconds or so. (So I'm not TOTALLY sure...) The first Long Cast you make scores 1M points, then 2M, etc. maxing out at 5M. As stated, each long cast lights the next highest value on the captive ball that isn't already lit. You can light all of the values before collecting any of them if you wanted. If your current value is about to time out, and you go through the left return lane, it will relight for the full amount of time again, and KEEP the current value.

The right return lane lights Fish Finder when lit. It starts the game lit, and will remain lit until the Fish Finder is collected. When you go over the microswitch, you have around 15-20 seconds to shoot the eject hole. If you get it, the right return lane will go off. To relight it, spell LIE (this is non-cumulative; i.e. you can't spell LIE 3 times and expect to get 3 Fish Finders in a row). The right return lane will NOT be lit during multiball and if Video Mode is lit. If it goes off for one of those reasons, it will come back on when it can.

The left and right ramps start the game lit, so you get 1 "free" shot at each side. After that, shooting the right ramp OR going through the right return lane will light the left ramp, and vice versa. The point is to alternate ramps, shooting the left ramp from the right flipper and the right ramp from the left flipper. It is fairly easy to backhand the ball up the ramps too, so if the left ramp is lit and the ball is on the left flipper, you should be able to make it up. Depending on the machine, it may even be easier to backhand! Making 6 LIT ramp shots lights the Monster Fish.

The two Stringer fish targets are lit at the start of the game, too. After completing the first one, it'll stay unlit until you complete the other one. The targets then alternate sides upon completion of each Stringer.

You can light the extra ball 1 of 2 ways: Hitting the Fish Finder, or as the 4th award on the captive ball. The extra ball is just to the left of the Caster's Club, and is probably the hardest extra ball target to hit yet. You may THINK you have a shot at it from the left flipper, but the bottom right of the Boat is in the way. The only way to aim for it is to backhand it from the right flipper, and even then it's not terribly easy. Depends on your machine. The one I played on the most you had to make an absolutely direct hit on it because I think it may have been a little flaky, but I also have played on one where it wasn't too bad.

To light the special, you have to complete the captive ball awards (get instant multiball), then hit the captive ball a certain number of times after that, usually (and probably is the default) 4 more hits. The special is collected on the outlanes, is always lit on both of them, and stays lit the entire game. However, you have to light the special ON THAT BALL, or you lose the chance to light it until completing the next set of captive ball awards.

The Stretch the Truth spinner shot usually shots all 5 lights lit, but every time you spell LIE, the lowermost light will go out (until only the 5x is left). The spinner will then just circulate between the lit choices. Thanks to all the people who pointed this out to me, even though I figured it out the day I originally posted this message! Oh well. %)

Misc. Scoring

The Fast Cast is scored by hitting the Caster's Club (or the drop target when it's supposed to be up) right after a Long Cast or ball launch (not an Autocast, though). The first Fast Cast is worth 2M and goes up 1M each time you get it. Fast Cast maxes out at 10M.

The captive ball awards are:

Hold Bonus (1M) - self-explanatory; holds your bonus and multiplier.
Video Mode (2M) - lights the eject hole for Video Mode.
Rock the Boat (3M) - Rock the Boat for 20 seconds.
Light Extra Ball (5M) - What do you think?
Instant Multiball (10M) - immediately starts multiball.
Note that you can only get one award per hit, no matter how many are lit. The numbers in parentheses are the amount of points you get for that award. Also, whether or not the captive ball is lit for the next award, hitting it scores "Grab Yer Gear" which is 1M x the highest lit award (excluding instant multiball, which is Sell Yer Gear as described below). If nothing is lit (as is the case for the ball after completing the captive ball), you get 500K.

After getting Instant Multiball, the captive ball becomes worth 5M points per hit, going up 500K per hit (so the 3rd hit is worth 6M). The maximum value on the Sell Yer Gear award is 10M.

The Fish Finder awards are:

Light Extra Ball
Super Jets Lit - each jet bumper (the 3 under LIE) scores 500K!
Instant Multiball
Inc. Captive Ball - lights the next value, like hitting Long Cast.
Bonus x - lights the next bonus x value.
1-5 million - varies each time.
Fish Tales is EXTREMELY FAIR about the Fish Finder. If you keep hitting it, and you haven't gotten the extra ball from it all game, it will eventually light it no matter how well you are doing when it does. It will never light bonus x if you are at 7x already. Nor will it award the captive ball increase if it's already maxed (at instant multiball).

The first Monster Fish you get will start at 20M and work its way down by 100K each 1/10th of a second, stopping at 5M. At 5M, you have 5 more seconds to try to get it. If you don't get it, it stays at its current value the next time 'round. If you DO get it (no matter when or for how much), the next time it'll be worth 10M more, up to a maximum of 50M. The amount per 1/10th second the score decreases goes up too, by 50K. There is some time before the countdown actually begins, so it IS possible to get the full award (unlike, say, Super Death Star in Star Wars where you can never ever get the full 50M, which IMHO is totally stupid).

The 6 ramps leading up to the Monster Fish are worth 500K, 1M, 1.5M, etc., up to 3M. So lighting a Monster Fish is worth 10.5M.

If you make a ramp shot that doesn't quite have enough uumph to make it all the way up a ramp and it comes down the other side, you get 1M points for a "U-turn." The U-turn is a valid shot for Rock the Boat!

Each fish you've caught (hitting the Stringers) awards 250K bonus at the end of each ball, cumulative through the game. Each tale told (hitting Stretch the Truth) scores 500K at the end of the ball for every ball.

There is a bonus cap of 3M for any given ball. Of course, this can be multiplied by 7, for a total of 21M, plus how many fish and tales you have.

If you get hold bonus, then everything is held over to the next ball. If you had 7x bonus, then whatever value the LIE lanes were when you drained is the value they are worth the next ball.

During Video Mode, each ship closest to you that you hit gets you 500K, each ship in the middle distance scores 1M, and each ship farthest away scores 1.5M. Be sure to lead your targets a little bit. You have 20 seconds and 20 torpedos. Always go for the far boats, since you need to hit a certain number of them to get the extra ball to come out (it always comes out on the back row). If you score between 15 and 19 hits (inclusive), you get a 10M bonus. If you're a perfect 20/20, you get a 20M bonus!

Fish Tales can be configured to NOT give extra balls in video mode. To replace this, the game will offer you BS instead of EB. The BS stands for "Big Score" and is worth 20M points.

If you were really fast in killing the back boats, and the EB/BS comes out, but you MISS it, it may come out a SECOND time if you have enough time left for that to happen. Usually 1 boat will pass in the back before it comes out again. So don't give up if you miss it, and hold on to that last torpedo!

You can use the flippers to shoot off torpedoes as well as the rod button, though the game won't tell you that you can do that. It works a lot better, I think. One person has written me that video mode will only last for that ball on his machine. However, on most it will stay on until you get it. Video Mode can NOT be "stacked," i.e. can only be lit once at a time. If it's lit and you shoot the "Light Video Mode" again, you wasted it.

There's an amusing bug involving Video Mode... If you tilt the ball, then it wanders up into the ball trap where Video Mode is lit, you'll be able to play Video Mode, even though you're in tilt mode! Cool. There's some other bugginess about tilt mode like being able to get the music to play (or keep playing or something). Nothing else major like the Video Mode bug, though.

During the course of the game, various things will swim by in the background (various fish, turtles, snails, mermaids...). One of them is a skeleton fish. If you slam on the cast button many times (like 10), then you'll get "Russ' Fishbone Bonus" which scores 10 points. It looks pretty cool, though. NOTE: Please do NOT post this to the Net! Keep it to yourself if you've bothered to read this guide. Consider it my present to you for enduring it.

Multiball

The main goal in multiball is to get jackpots! Nothing else really matters. However, some people have taken issue with this statement, and so I offer a couple more ideas: Hit the captive ball a lot at the start if it's lit and especially if it's a drain shot on your machine. Autocast will save you. Also, Rock the Boat can be worth an awful lot of points if you can keep the balls going around the ramps.

To light a jackpot, shoot a ball into the Caster's Club. The game yells "Up to the top for jackpot!" Your next goal is to shoot the eject hole within 15 seconds (there's a timer on there!) to score it. The jackpots are worth 20M, then 30M, then 40M. The tackle box shows you which one you're on (flashing) and which ones you've gotten (lit).

Completing the Stringers during multiball adds 1M to the jackpot. (Wow!) Notice, though, that the Stringers are also flashing during Feeding Frenzy and Rock the Boat. I'm not sure what they do here, but I think they add 1M to the jackpot when they're completed as well.

If you have 3 balls out, the Caster's Club will flash for "Doubles Jackpot." Shooting another ball in here at this time does just that, and resets the timer at 15 seconds. If it times out, though, BOTH balls are shot back at you and you have to start all over. If you lose the third ball, then one ball is shot back at you, and you shoot for a single jackpot. Any other shots at the Caster's Club are blocked by the drop target (and it keeps coming up).

After getting all 3 jackpots in the tackle box, the fun really begins. The captive ball becomes lit for the Super Jackpot, and I DO mean Super! Every time you hit the captive ball, you get 100M points, until multiball ends.

Don't worry; you needn't get all jackpots in 1 multiball in order to get to the super jackpot. Whichever jackpot you are on is remembered through the whole game. If you lit the super jackpot, but never hit the captive ball, then the next multiball the captive ball will still be lit for the next multiball until you've hit it at least once.

Of course, it'd be anticlimactic to have to go back to the 20M, 30M, 40M jackpots, now, wouldn't it? Well, after going through an entire jackpot sequence (i.e. you've gotten at least one SJ), all of the jackpots become worth minimum 2x their original value! INCLUDING the captive ball super jackpot! And you can still double the jackpots, so you can make major amounts of points on this game. And it keeps increasing with each completed sequence. The multiplier will go as high as 6x (yes, I've gotten a 600M super jackpot). Why it goes up to 6 I know not (just seems like a strange number).

If you get a Super Jackpot when the next-to-last ball is registering in the trough, you'll get an additional 100M for the SJ. The reason for this is probably because the jackpot multiplier kicks in as soon as the ball is registered, but just before the final SJ points are awarded to you. I don't know that for sure, but a way to confirm it would be to see if getting a 600M SJ gives you 700M or not.

Note that during multiball, the Boat can still be hit for lighting the Monster Fish. Always be listening for the distinctive roar the game makes if you're not paying very close attention how many ramp hits you have. Also the captive ball can be hit for whatever it's lit for, and it can still be advanced via the Long Cast.

Oh - one other thing about multiball... If you shoot a ball up each ramp at about the same time (at any rate before the previous one hits the return lane), you get 5M points for a "Double Cross."

"Properly-Set-Up Machines"

Fish Tales is probably the least tolerant of any game to incorrect alignment of any kind. On a lot of machines, there is a little bitty piece of rubber at the end of the left loop which, if the ball is traveling against the left side as it usually does, will cause the ball to go straight down the middle of your flippers. Also, the upper-left gate seems to cause a lot of problems for people. If you look closely, you can see that it is a one-way gate that should always allow the ball to go through from left to right. However, there is a little rod that the game can control and open the gate when it wants. It should ONLY open for right-to-left shots when the Long Cast is lit, or when you are launching a ball from the plunger (not necessarily for an auto-launched ball during multiball, though). If the gate is always open, this is not really a bad thing except that it makes it a bit harder to get LIE, since the ball will never stop on its way around the Long Cast. HOWEVER, if the gate is always CLOSED, you are in big trouble. This is because you can't advance the value of the captive ball except to get lucky on the Fish Finder. If your gate is always closed, or if the rubber at the end of the left lane is screwing your balls, then complain to your operator! The game is not worth playing in these cases.

Another problem that I recently discovered is the Caster's Club drop target. The game is supposed to be able to drop the target when it needs to. When does it need to? Well, for example, if you get instant multiball while it is up, it should go down to allow you to light the jackpot. I've played a game where the machine couldn't retract it, and it took 2 hits at the Caster's Club just to light a jackpot, then to double it, etc. It is next to impossible to get a jackpot when this happens. Out of 6 games, I managed 1. It's hard enough to light it, but when the drop target goes up, it really hurts things. THE ONLY TIME IT SHOULD COME UP is when you have gotten a jackpot during the last multiball or during multiball to block the 2nd or 3rd ball from going into the Caster's Club when 2 or 3 balls are in play.

Strategies

You can usually get replays just by going for the Monster Fish bonuses. If you are good at the ramps and making the spinner shot, I highly recommend it. But after the replay, you're going to have to go for multiball.

At any rate, if you have a Monster Fish lit, ALWAYS ALWAYS go for it. If you don't get it, the Fish value won't increase, and you'll be stuck right back where you just were. Even if it's at 5M, try to get it because the potential for the next Fish is so great. Of course, once you're at 50M, it doesn't really matter as much if you miss the low value.

When shooting for the Monster Fish, keep a careful eye on how many fish in the school you have at the moment. I NEVER shoot the final fish from the right flipper, because that wastes time (and points) needed to get the ball to the right flipper from the left. Be sure to check your parity right after making a ramp shot. If you've just shot an even-numbered fish from the right flipper, shoot something else from the left, like the Long Cast if the captive ball isn't maxed out yet, the Caster's Club otherwise. Likewise, if you shot an odd-numbered fish from the left flipper, shoot for the Fish Finder from the right. Basically, keep careful track and you'll get the most Monster for your money.

If you're in multiball, try not to get Instant Multiball from the captive ball. It's a total waste, especially if you hit it right at the beginning of normal multiball. If you have 2 balls locked and Instant Multiball lit, always try for regular multiball first, since getting Instant Multiball means no locked balls after you lose them.

In Rock the Boat, go for the ramps and not the captive ball. They're both much easier and much safer to shoot for, though obviously not as fast. A couple people have had the idea that backhanding the ball up the same ramp is a good idea. I agree. Backhanding the ramps is generally easier than shooting the far one, and you can get into a pretty good groove this way.

One person says that going for the captive ball on Rock the Boat is a good idea if you have both extra ball and multiball lit. You risk a drain on the extra ball, but then you can hit the captive ball again for multiball and a potentially very rewarding Rock the Boat.

For Feeding Frenzy, don't get the Boat fish right away. Try for the harder looping shot ones first. If you get low on time, shoot a Boat fish, then use the next time to try for the looping ones again. Note that you only need to hit the Boat ramp sensor to get a fish and NOT the actual ramp sensor. So if you got a U-turn, you'd get both Boat fish. For the left fish, all you need is barely touch the spinner, and the right fish is the microswitch just before the LIE lanes.

The most important shot to master (and the one that needs the most practice) is the Caster's Club. If you can get it down, then you'll do very well. Of course the captive ball and Long Cast are very important in conjunction as well. There are several machines around that let you backhand the Caster's Club from the right flipper. The only machine that I've been able to do this on so far is a PAPA tournament machine.

Don't aim for the Stringers. Just let the ball hit them as it pleases. If you have nothing better to do, or are really close to Feeding Frenzy or Rock the Boat, then go ahead and try for them. The reason I say this is because they are often drain shots. Some people always go for them anyway (if nothing else than to get Biggest Liar!) for the Feeding Frenzy and Rock the Boat. Rock the Boat is usually worth it, but Feeding Frenzy is only worth 35M. It's up to you.

Find out which LIE lane the ball goes up the most from the Jets, and keep that lane the unlit one. (This is almost always the I, from what I've seen and heard.) You'll be much more likely to complete it faster if you avoid duplicate letters this way.

Thanks!

Here is a list of people to thank for comments/additions/corrections. The order is who mailed me first, then the order at which they appeared on r.g.p.

Chris Crywalt
Jens
Bowen Kerins
David Stewart
Christopher Hartman
Mark Phaedrus
Joe Schwartz
Thanks to these individuals for making this guide a more definitive reference (and the world a better place!).

Editor's Notes

HTML added by David Gersic dgersic_@_niu.edu
E-mail addresses have been expunged to prevent web-bot spamming, and Web links have been updated where possible.

Hi guys am new to this particular section on Pinside, iv had my FT for over 20 years and not played it at lest 12 to 15 years, since falling I love with pinball again last year iam well into it all. Having made a few more purchases I toyed with the idea of selling FT but still get a buzz out of it. It realy is a fun game, iv changed most plastics, rubbers and fitted all new LEDs wow what a diffrence. Ok I have two questions the first one is my coin mech LED keeps coming on and off intermittently is this normal to sink with the GIs etc iv checked for loose connections etc?
Also iv bought some internal side decals from pingraffix and need to remove the playfield,
please can someone advice the best way to do this?
Thankyou Simon

To remove the PF, basically you just remove the wire harness, and pull the two clips with the spring holding the PF in, get a friend to help. One on each side and lift straight up.

Ok not sure I understand the way the drop target should work, I get the different functions in settings, easy medium hard etc. Iv just gone through the solenoid test in 12 it goes up but in 13 it doesn't go down. Please can someone advice why,and what part I would require. ( by the way switch 48 is working ok )
Thankyou

I applied my inner art like this:

There are 2 coils to operate the drop target, one to push it up and another to drop it. Do some troubleshooting first. You'll have to look at the mechanism under the playfield, see if any wires have broken off, look for any damage.
Get a DMM/voltmeter and check if solenoid power is making it to the coil. If nothing is found there, this could be a driver board problem...just don't jump to conclusions without performing some troubleshooting.

Thank you guys for postings Keefers Strategy Sheet. Would that be THE Keefer, as in Elwin?
Guys I've looked and looked....I can't find a drop target anywhere. Where the hell is it? Thanks.

Casters club - in front of the ball lock.

Keith Johnson

AH HA!
There it be! Thanks Tex! Wouldn't have seen that if it were a shark and bit me. Does it pop up when you lock all 3 balls? Only locked 2 thus far, but my backhand to it is gettin better.

Gryszzz, I love you but you suck. You've had the game for 2 weeks and you've failed to lock all 3 balls? Finally a player of my caliber! You need to drink more!

LOL
Luv ya too buddy!
Not sure if drinking more is possible, but I'm always down for a challenge.

I believe the game set to have the casters club open the first time through all three locks. Once you get the first multiball you should have to hit the drop target to lock balls the second time through. At least I think that is how it was.

Wait a sec....I actually did lock all 3 the other night. Might've done it twice now maybe. I've never seen that drop come up though, atleast I don't think so. Cause, well, I suck, and don't freakin care. Apathy is your friend!

Might be apart of the difficulty setup.

Ya Right. Lol. I'm pretty sure the drop only comes up after multiball starts when that shot is worth a jackpot.

Ha. I've gotten multi ball a few times REALLY lol but I don't remember seein the drop come up. Maybe because I was never looking for it since I didn't know it existed ha.

In regular mode, if you start multiball but don't hit a jackpot, the target won't come up. If you do hit one or more jackpots, then the target comes up and you have to hit it to reopen the Caster's Club