You're crazy for taking this on as your first machine, just my 2 cents.

I sold mine that was pretty much mint for 3500CAN.

Not sure value of this but it looks like ALOT of work for a noob...but fixing them is half the fun IMO..

I'd guess 1000-1500 maybe...but that's a total guess...playfields are around 1000 if you wanted to do a swap. Probably needs alot mechanical/electrical work obviously too...

Plastics are the least of your worries They are available out there, and easy to replace.

It's a great game, I kinda wish I never sold mine, it was my first ever pin...

Wow, that thing is rough. I wouldn't go more than $1000.

It needs a new playfield for sure, so that puts it up to $2000 right there. Then if it needs new boards, DMD, plastics, etc. you easily have $2500 or more into it. You could put A LOT of work into it and probably make a few hundred bucks, so if you're into it for the money it's a losing proposition. BUT, if it's a labor of love for you and you'll get a lot a satisfaction from resurrecting a dead pin, then I say go for it!

You wipe that TAF down and it would sell in a flash for 1800.00 ! Heck put a 75.00 mansion overlay on it and sell it for 2500.00 easy! If you can buy it for a grand, do it !

I have a TAF with a new PF installed and nice original cabinet and it is valued at 4500.00 ..

Good Luck

Jim

Most operators I've "tried" to deal with want WAY more money, even in beat condition..

My advice is to get a working machine as your first, otherwise you may be turned off by the hobby very quickly. Then as your second get something for a project....

Don't count on just "fixing" the game and getting $2500. You may spend $2000 getting it back up to speed. Ramps are $160, playfield $1200, side art $250 - stuff adds up fast!

If this is your first pin you may want to reconsider. Learning how to fix machines is something best learned gradually. I agree with tom you might end up hating the hobby if you start out this way. My suggestion is to get a pin in decent working order.

What most people don't understand is that you will need to put in some work just to maintain them. I have heard people even say well I'm going to just buy another that is working good that way I won't have to mess with it. That never seems to be the case. These machines require work if you want them running 100% and you play them a decent amount.

Don't count on any profit at all. You are going to lose money, but (maybe) enjoy the restore process.

Even if you only make $25 and hour, you are going to have 100 hours + $2000 in parts to get that machine going again.

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Well said stuff adds up fast. $1000 for machine, $1200 for playfield (if you can find one) $200 new plastics, $250 side art, $150 new playfield switches, $100 new legs, $125 cliffys, $100 LEDs, $160 ramps, $500 misc, 200-300 hrs of your labor not including research on internet.

Really nice ones can be found between 3000-4000. Maybe spend one day driving to get it.

I do a little restoring but I owned some working games first. I get it I love renovating pins .....that's just one giant step.

I'm sure he'll be posting a recently shopped supernice addams family add for 4K on craigslist soon

That game is easily worth a grand. If you don't want it, I'll take it.

Hahah this is awesome, this sums up most of the operators I've dealt with around here. Thx for the laugh..

"Well, he called me back and told me that I caught him at a bad time and that he knows they're in bad shape and he's embarrassed about it but not to "dog my damn machines" and that I "need to mind my business."

it'll buff out.

It will sell too.. Maybe not 4k but in the 3k range wouldn't surprise me .

I could take that machine and in 10 hrs off work, blow your mind on how good it would look.

Almost all machines that we all cherish were routed beaters .

Sorry the deal fell though.

Jim

"Jerk" might be too harsh of a word.

I used to run a coin op route, and I've got to tell you that 99% of the phone calls from people wanting to buy a machine were a total waste of my time.

Our phone number used to be on a sticker on the backglass or medallion on every game. You always wanted your number to be prominent, so someone would call you the moment a problem occurred.

Typical call:

Guy: Hey, I want to buy that Stargate machine you have at Max's! I've called you 2 times.
Me: OK, $1500.
Guy: $1500????? Have you seen the condition of that thing lately?
Me: Yep, I saw it Monday when I took $150 from the box.
Guy: Yeah, I mean someone scratched their initials in the side, and there are cigarette burns all over the control panel (believe it or not, you used to be able to smoke in bars and arcades).
Me: Yep, I've seen it.
Guy: Well you can't tell me its worth $1500 with all that damage.
Me: All that stuff is cosmetic. It obviously has not stopped anyone from putting money into it.
Guy: Still, I was thinking $400 or something.
Me: Guy, that machine makes me $400 every 3 weeks. Why would I sell it for that?
Guy: I dunno, I was hoping....
Me: Tell you what, I've got a Defender I'll sell you for $400.
Guy: No, I wanted something current.
Me: OK, thanks for the call.

This scenario would repeat itself sometimes several times a day.

If you want to take one last stab at the game: Call and leave a message that you want to give the guy $700 cash for the machine. Tell him you will come with cash, a trailer, and an extra guy.

If he does not call you back, don't take it personal....

Sorry it being the holidays and all made me think of this.

There is an Addams Family at a loan hut in my area, that looks almost identical to this one. Such a dog. DMD is blown out, playfield is ridiculously dirty and worn, inserts are all toast, cab is in terrible shape, no keys to get into the machine, etc... Guy wants $3500 for it, and wont take a penny less. He has been listing it for sale for going on 5 years now.

If the guy is already irrated now. Your chances of getting it have become slim to none now. Just tryng more and more will just irrate him more and more. The only chance you have now is to wait a month or so and have a buddy call and see if you can work a deal through a friend working the deal for you without him knowing its you. Otherwise you will probably never get it.

Very fine line to negotiate a sell by pointing out problems with the machine. It needs to be done so the seller knows that a routed machine should not command a collector's price, but it can be tricky as not to say it is junk he is selling and offend him. Very hard to straddle that line.

I think it could clean up nice, if you got it for a nice price. Lots of parts available for it. Don't know if I would replace the playfield as I have seen mansion overlays make a playfield look super nice. One of my best friends has a mansion overlay and it is hard to tell unless you get real close. Cliffy's protect and cover many of the wear spots.

A lot of the fun is fixing them up.

Don't get a project game as your first! Things will break well enough on their own. Then you will learn how to fix them at a regular pace. This sounds and looks like a train wreck. Plenty of AF games out there. To tell you the truth, I played a lot of them when I got into pins and the game didn't really do much for me. Maybe I was playing some duds, but just never could bring myself to pay what they are going for these days. Grab a Jurassic Park instead that is working for around $1400. I think a thing hand motor alone would set you back some serious cash. I know nostalgia is a big motivator, but take your time and look around. You might not get the best deal out there, but you will get a working game that will make you want to stick with this hobby. Nothing worse than looking at a game that you can't play (I have one). A game in that condition would make me wonder about the boards too. Replace those and you are going to be way underwater. Just my opinion. Let people here know where you are located and I bet someone can find you a better deal. You might also try Mr. Pinball classifieds. Good luck on your first pin.