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First Machine - Flight 2000 Rebooting Problems

By DanMarino

1 year ago


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#1 1 year ago

Hi Everyone,

I am new to the hobby and my son and I picked up a Flight 2000 last week. The machine is a work in progress and is currently having some problems.
Is there anyone in the Baltimore/Washington Area who can assist me in diagnosing and making the repairs? I appreciate that WonderMellon from on here was kind enough to stop by last night and take a look. More technical assistance is needed though.

Symptoms.

1. When the machine is turned on, the MPU will go through the beeping cycle. Last night it had lots of problems getting up and running. It would get to the point where we would start a game, but then it would shut down and start the reboot all over again.

2. When we get the game up and running, it will eventually quit on us in the middle of the game and start the reboot process all over again.

3. WonderMellon (Mike) got out his multi-meter and was checking some voltages on the MPU board. Some test points on the MPU board had a steady 4.8 volts throughout the entire rebooting process. The green LED light was not steady and seemed to fluctuate. Mike tested the voltage at the LED light and it was fluctuating up to around 8 volts, but then would drop below 4.8 volts, and then go back up.

4. The power rectifier board in the base cabinet has been hacked. The connectors look good, with no visible burn marks. Looks like the square rectifier things or heat sinks, or whatever they are, have been moved off the board and have wires going back to it.

Questions.

What sort of troubleshooting tests should be my next step?

If I need a replacement power rectifier board, is there one that I can buy that is ready to plug into the connectors?

If soldering work is needed, how difficult of a job is it?

Thanks in advance for all the help. I'll be digging around the Flight 2000 Club thread for people that have had similar issues.

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#2 1 year ago

New problem today.
I booted it up and it came on pretty quickly once it ejected all the balls from the ball locker and into the trough.

However, no score display lights at all today. All of them are dead.

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#3 1 year ago

I found a loose ground wire from the power rectifier board going over to the transformer. I tightened that up and the display lights are working now.
I think the first step will be install a new 20 pin connector and see if that addresses the problem.

#4 1 year ago
Quoted from DanMarino:

I found a loose ground wire from the power rectifier board going over to the transformer. I tightened that up and the display lights are working now.
I think the first step will be install a new 20 pin connector and see if that addresses the problem.

That's where I would start, that connector is always flaky

#5 1 year ago

Here is what the back side of my power rectifier board looks like.
I think a new one would be a good idea.

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#6 1 year ago
Quoted from DanMarino:I found a loose ground wire from the power rectifier board going over to the transformer. I tightened that up and the display lights are working now.
I think the first step will be install a new 20 pin connector and see if that addresses the problem.

Indeed a good starting point. I would use Trifurcon pins and replace the header pins as well.

#7 1 year ago

Gotta love that CR1 replacement job. The guy paid for those long leads and by golly he was going to use them.

#8 1 year ago
Quoted from DanMarino:

Here is what the back side of my power rectifier board looks like.
I think a new one would be a good idea.
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https://www.pinballlife.com/mm5/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Product_Code=AS-2518-18

#9 1 year ago

Thanks! I ordered the replacement board this morning.

Looks like the kit comes with new connectors!

#10 1 year ago
Quoted from DanMarino:

Here is what the back side of my power rectifier board looks like.
I think a new one would be a good idea.
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I just did my rectifier board, this chart was helpful: https://pinwiki.com/wiki/index.php?title=Bally/Stern#How_To_Hook_Up_a_Stern_TA-100_Rectifier_Board

#11 1 year ago

Installed a new power rectifier board and re-crimped about 3/4ths of the J3 / 20 pin connector. Game is fixed!

Now on to getting all the lights working, strengthening the flippers, getting a pop bumper working better, and new rubbers and pinballs.

Love the game and all the helpful information on pinside!

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#12 1 year ago

Thanks! That chart was very helpful during my soldering for the new power rectifier board.

#13 1 year ago

The lights can be a pain in the butt, every light socket on mine has been changed.
BTW led's work fine for general illumination but not for feature lights unless you get the led lamp driver board.

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