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Firepower II Repair and Shop


By Shredso

14 days ago



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#1 14 days ago

In light of the current situation I decided to shift my repair queue around and concentrate on fixing and selling games I know I don't want to keep. There are probably 3 in this category, so unfortunately, BOP 2.0 and Judge Dredd will take a back seat for a bit. First in line is Firepower II. I bought this because (I thought) it was a deal. I liked Firepower and thought I could make a few bucks and hopefully enjoy it. I responded to the ad and was told I was first in line, and that he had a ton of interest. I told him I could be right there, and we set a time. The playfield was far worse than I thought from the pics. I probably should have left it for the next guy as it wasn't a title I cared about. I knew I couldn't talk him down because he had people waiting in line and I didn't want to waste the trip, so I bought it. I should have taken a few pics at this point, but I have lots moving forward.

#2 14 days ago

Game setup- Legs:

The legs were a rusty mess. I could have made these perfect, or at least much better with an Evaporust bath and some buffing, but this is Firepower II. My goal here is to get it clean, reliable, and playing well. Cosmetics will take a back seat due to the condition of the playfield. Windex and a scotch bright pad removed most of the rust and they looks much better. One is still a rusty mess, I may replace it if I have a matching one. I don't have a great before pic, half way through cleaning these I decided to document the shop job. Here is a half way done, and as good as it's going to get picture.

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#3 14 days ago

The first 2 leg bolts were a breeze, then it was a fight. I decided to re-tap every bracket. I didn't want to ruin the brand new bolts, and there is a good chance a non-pinhead or first time pin buyer will end up with this. I want to try and catch all of the little details so I'm not making free trips.

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#4 14 days ago

Legs are on! After a quick wipedown I noticed the cabinet is in decent shape. The game flipped but had no sound when I bought it. I didn't play it for more than a minute or so to make sure it was complete. First power on, attract mode, credits on the game, start button doesn't work.

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#5 14 days ago

A quick peek in the cabinet and I see a connector I missed. Plugged it in and the game flips! Most of the features seem to be working. Some switches are inconsistent or not working. Hopefully small adjustments. I also plugged in the speaker, there are 2 spots on the sound board that it fit in, it's not keyed. Quick search in the manual and I was good. There is something else I should have noticed at this point. More on that later.

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#6 14 days ago

The boards were serviced at some point, and it appears to be a professional job. This was the reason I didn't bail on the game. I was anticipating dealing with some battery damage and the interconnect mess. Huge plus (I think).

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#7 14 days ago

Time to deal with the sound. Or more specifically, the lack of sound. I'm not very familiar with anything earlier than System 11, so I'm poking around blindly. I'm not getting voltage anywhere. I check the fuses, one was blown. Could it be?! One fuse was blown, and one was way overfused. I swapped in a 4A SB for the overfused good fuse, and my circuit breaker for the blown one. Neither blew on power up, but still no sound.

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#8 14 days ago

I was getting some odd readings on the bridge rectifier. Unfortunately it's a different package, 4 in line. All mine are square. I know I have one of these somewhere from an Ice Cold Beer I repaired, no idea if it's the correct specs, can't find it anyway. There is no harm in putting in a beefier bridge, right? I decided to try a Coronapocolypse/operator repair just to get the thing going. I'm not sure who is shipping parts now,and I don't want this to take a month. I bent the legs on a square bridge rectifier and put some heat shrink tubing on the legs because it was a little too exposed for my liking. It's definitely a hack, and I will either replace or disclose it when I sell. Reinstall the board, nothing blows, still no sound. I'm thinking maybe the capacitors need to be replaced. I hit the test button on the sound board and hear a very faint sound. Does anyone know what I previously missed? Post #5, I wasn't sure where to plug the speaker in. I looked in the manual and figured out the location on the sound board. This should have triggered me to question why the other one wasn't populated. I plugged in the volume control and it worked! This game sounds awful.... I have some pics of the hack repair so you guys can laugh and call me a hack.

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#9 14 days ago

The sound works, the game works, the only issue now is a bad display. I confirmed it's not the controller. Its the player 4 glass, no big deal for now. Moving on to the shop job. This is the point I probably should have dumped the game. It was purchased with the intent of making a profit. Anything I do from here on in is probably free labor and parts. Oh well. Here is a pic of the trashed playfield. My intention here was to tear down just enough to replace the rubber and clean as much as I can without destroying paint.

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#10 14 days ago

I ended up tearing down most of the topside. There are a lot of posts on this game! I was hoping the teardown would be simpler for such a simple game. I will probably end up rebuilding the pops and the slings, and likely dropping all of the switches and polishing them. Fortunately even with an aggressive cleaning I didn't lose any more paint. Here it is after a coat of wax. I'm pretty happy with how it cleaned up. That's it for today, it was a productive day.

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#11 13 days ago

These parts are pretty gnarly. Going for a bath in the ultrasonic. I considered breaking out the tumbler for the first time in years, we'll see how they come out.

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#12 13 days ago

They cleaned up nicely, I may hit a few with the buffer.

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#13 13 days ago

All organized! I started buffing a few parts without great results. The plating seems different on these older games.
Buffer- 1
Post - 0
My workshop claimed a post and I need to stop buffing. No idea where it went, luckily I had an extra so it won't slow me down.

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#14 13 days ago
Quoted from Shredso:

The first 2 leg bolts were a breeze, then it was a fight. I decided to re-tap every bracket. I didn't want to ruin the brand new bolts, and there is a good chance a non-pinhead or first time pin buyer will end up with this. I want to try and catch all of the little details so I'm not making free trips.[quoted image]

I do this to every game brought home including NIB . Makes it so much smoother.

#15 12 days ago
Quoted from chad:

I do this to every game brought home including NIB . Makes it so much smoother.

It used to be part of the every game routine for me. I haven't found it necessary with the newer games, but definitely a good practice.

#16 12 days ago

After some socket cleaning and all new lamps, all of the GI is working.

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#17 12 days ago

I'm out of order here, but I was exhausted and wanted to get something done. Some of these parts will come back off, but sometimes I need a little inspiration of a slightly populated playfield to keep me moving. This isn't making a great shop out series because the game really isn't in that bad of shape (other than the playfield wear). I was kind of expecting a basketcase. There was some weird corrosion on the metal, but overall it's not nearly as bad as other games of this age I've encountered. I was expecting some interesting detours, but this is turning out to be a fairly standard shop job. Not a bad thing...

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#18 11 days ago

Due to the overwhelmingly positive response, I've decided to continue this thread. I've again told myself, even if it's going to cost you some time to remove things, do something today. I probably won't touch it tomorrow, but I'm hoping for a full day on Friday. I'm still working, but I think I need a day off with the family. Maybe I can rope the kids into helping. I'd like to see it playable again by Friday night. The beauty of the simpler games is, if I decide I want to completely rebuild the pops (I probably will), it's not like I need to take off 6 ramps and an upper playfield.

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#19 11 days ago

The more I look at this part, I think it's homemade. I'm not seeing it on other pictures of the game. I'm guessing it's a defector for stuck balls. If it's homemade, it's well done. It looked better before I ran it through the ultrasonic. I should throw a coat of paint on it if I decide to keep it. Has anyone seen this? Is this a common location for stuck balls?

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#20 11 days ago
Quoted from Shredso:

The more I look at this part, I think it's homemade. I'm not seeing it on other pictures of the game. I'm guessing it's a defector for stuck balls. If it's homemade, it's well done. It looked better before I ran it through the ultrasonic. I should throw a coat of paint on it if I decide to keep it. Has anyone seen this? Is this a common location for stuck balls?[quoted image]

everything in that pic is standard and on mine!

great thread

#21 11 days ago

Thanks for all the detailed posts! Exactly the kind of thing I need to stay sane right now. NBA is MIA, and there’s only so much Netflix you can watch. I used to have a Firepower II, gave it a full topside teardown eons ago. This takes me back.

#22 9 days ago

I was able to spend about an hour this morning before house and yard work. First issue to tackle was this post mess. I suspected the machine screw was broken off inside the tee-nut, and it was. Pooped the tee-nut through the bottom of the playfield, installed a new one and a new machines screw. Luckily had everything on hand. Easy fix!

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#23 9 days ago

This was a bummer, remember the metal post I lost to the buffer a few posts back? I thought I had another. Unfortunately I have one with a wood thread, and one with an 8/32 thread. I need the 6/32. I haven't decided how to deal with it yet. I could find a random placeholder to make the game playable until I can order the part, or drill it out to 8/32. I really don't see any harm in doing this, especially with the condition of the rest of the playfield. I believe the post is identical on the topside.

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#24 9 days ago

I had a metal post that was pretty beat, so I didn't mind destroying it with an experiment. Could I turn a beefy wood thread into a machine thread? It's definitely a little short.

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#25 9 days ago

The answer is, sorta. It's too short to use the washer, but it catches a couple threads without it and seems solid. It's certainly good enough to hold until the next parts order. That rubber should probably be a 3/4", but I didn't want to push it.
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#26 9 days ago

I decided to try and paint the stuck ball deflector. I found some black spray paint, but it wasn't spraying properly. I tried soaking the tip in some thinner. The can is junk and I ended up with a horrible result, and paint all over my hands. The can would spray a thin mist, then spit some paint, then get clogged.
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#27 9 days ago

I'm sticking with my apocalypse method. I really don't want to go to the store unless I absolutely need to. Must make it work with parts on hand... I decided to strip the paint and try buffing it. I could have made it a little better with some more sanding steps, but this is good enough. Not sure if I will leave it or buy paint next time I go out. Pictures are before and after buffing.

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#28 9 days ago

Out of 2 1/2" rubber! Luckily the game came with a box of random stuff, and there was a 2 1/2" in there. I've been using Titan on all my games lately so I stopped restocking the traditional rubber.

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#29 9 days ago

Slings were super warped. Not perfect, but I was able to get it to settle down.

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#30 9 days ago

Almost there! I need to decide how far I'm going with the flippers, pops, and other mechs on the bottom. I also have the display to deal with and one target that needs repair.

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#31 6 days ago

Thanks for posting pics and explaining what you are doing.

I've got flipper rebuilds and pop bumper rebuilds too, when I can put in an order.

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