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Fireball II restore begins (Finished)


By timab2000

6 months ago



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#1 6 months ago

Well, I have to recovered enough from my ankle surgery to get back in the shop and start working on my next restore which is Fireball II.

Here are some pictures before.
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Here are some bad areas that need attention
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#2 6 months ago

Love your restore threads! Following!!

#3 6 months ago
Quoted from Pinmasher:

Love your restore threads! Following!!

Hey thanks I appreciate it that's good to hear.

Here a few more pictures

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#4 6 months ago

Awesome Tim, I have a Fireball II as well, excited to watch this thread

#5 6 months ago
Quoted from Pinmasher:

Love your restore threads! Following!!

Exactly!

#6 6 months ago
Quoted from ODENONMYSIDE513:

Awesome Tim, I have a Fireball II as well, excited to watch this thread

Thank you I appreciate that looking forward to doing it.

I managed to get the lower cabinet gutted today. And sitting on my trusty 5 gallon bucket wheeled cart. I know not very high tech but it works.
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Not sure what the deal is with mismatched leg bolts, but it seems like every game I have redone it's a mixed bag with leg bolts.

This one has 4 9/16 - 3 1/2 head bolts and 1 1/2 mystery bolt.

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#7 6 months ago
Quoted from timab2000:

And sitting on my trusty 5 gallon bucket wheeled cart.

That kills me every time. I applaud you for continuing to post it but, if it works, it works!

#8 6 months ago

The bottom of the cabinet looks pretty bad. So the bottom of the cabinet will definitely come out and get replaced.

I have another piece of Masonite hardboard so I'll get bottom out in one piece and use it for a template for the new one. It's a leftover piece from my lost world project
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I just start chiseling out enough wood to expose the edge of the floor, get all the nails out from the coin box plate and it should pop right out. Maybe....

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#9 6 months ago

Okay floor is out, easy enough

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#10 6 months ago

As a fan of Fireball II, I will follow this thread

#11 6 months ago
Quoted from Guppy1977:

As a fan of Fireball II, I will follow this thread

Glad to hear it.

Got the bottom floor panel cut out.
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Looks like it fits measure twice cut once
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While I was taking a break I was looking this hole in the front of the cabinet, and the weird thing is my Flash Gordon that I just bought has the exact same hole almost in the exact same spot.

Coincidence or what?

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#12 6 months ago

lock bar mount hole from when on location in the past to cover coin door with a paddle lock?

#13 6 months ago
Quoted from Pinmasher:

lock bar mount hole from when on location in the past to cover coin door with a paddle lock?

That makes sence.

After two days in the tumbler these turned out a lot better. I forget that I had some other ones in there.

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#14 6 months ago

Well after about a good hour of sanding outside I got most of paint off still a lot more to do, but it's about 35 degrees outside so I did as much as I felt like doing.
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Looking closer this thing is full of dents and dings. Gotta love partical board.
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Not sure what happened here. There must have been wood divider there and someone felt the need to yank it out and made a big mess doing it. So I'll try to fix it the best I can.

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#15 5 months ago

Not a whole lot to report for the past couple days. Just spending time doing cabinet repairs and cleaning up the rectifier board area.

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#16 5 months ago

Also looking over the legs three look pretty good one on the right has got a bad Bend towards the top.

I'll strip them all down and see if I can straighten out the bad one then repaint.

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#17 5 months ago

Following!
Had me hooked from your Lost World thread.

Are you holding onto all these restored games in a collection or selling when finished. Would live to see your line up!

#18 5 months ago

Following.

#19 5 months ago
Quoted from mad_carl:

Are you holding onto all these restored games in a collection or selling when finished.

I hang on to some of them, and I have sold a couple too just depends

#20 5 months ago

Got the plate for the Transformer and rectifier board put back together.

Also decided to glue the floor back into the lower cabinet. Thought a big old bag Iowa Corn would hold everything in place.

Actually it's from St Cloud Minnesota
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#21 5 months ago

Good ol St Cloud.

#22 5 months ago

Following! What do you use to get the legs ready for paint? I have a set that look about the same. And I don't want to just paint over the rust.

#23 5 months ago
Quoted from Waderade812:

Following! What do you use to get the legs ready for paint? I have a set that look about the same. And I don't want to just paint over the rust.

Wire wheel on an angle grinder works great from my experience.

#24 5 months ago
Quoted from Waderade812:

Following! What do you use to get the legs ready for paint? I have a set that look about the same. And I don't want to just paint over the rust.

I just sand them down with 80 grit sand paper on a Black and Decker sander. And then use Rustoleum color "Soft Flat Iron" and they turn out nice. I am working on that right now so when I am done with the legs I'll post pics.

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#25 5 months ago

Are those rectifiers on the back of the rectifier board ok being on a painted surface? The bare metal acts like a heat sink I thought..............

#26 5 months ago
Quoted from pinkid:

Are those rectifiers on the back of the rectifier board ok being on a painted surface? The bare metal acts like a heat sink I thought..............

Well I have done it like this before and have not had any issues. But that's not to say I'm right. Maybe someone else will chime in on that.

#27 5 months ago

Just wondering. Didn't want anything to go wrong. Great looking work so far.

#28 5 months ago
Quoted from pinkid:

Are those rectifiers on the back of the rectifier board ok being on a painted surface?

I have done this a few times nor with no issues.....just need to make sure the backside is metal for the ground braid to make contact.

#29 5 months ago
Quoted from timab2000:

Well I have done it like this before and have not had any issues. But that's not to say I'm right. Maybe someone else will chime in on that.

I tape off the area where the bridges mesh with the plate, but probably ok with heat sink grease either way.

#30 5 months ago
Quoted from pinkid:

Are those rectifiers on the back of the rectifier board ok being on a painted surface? The bare metal acts like a heat sink I thought..............

Yes, paint isn't a good thermal conductor.
Tape off the bridge area like @jj44114 says before painting because you want maximum metal to metal contact. Use a decent quality thermal paste which fills in the tiny pits/voids for improved thermal conductivity.
Your bridge rectifiers will thank you for it.

Nice to see another classic being restored..

#31 5 months ago

Tim, any progress ?

#32 5 months ago
Quoted from freddy:

Tim, any progress ?

I have slowly been working on fixing cabinet damage, but I can only do so much due to my ankle surgery that I am still recovering from.

Dr. said it would be a slow recovery process, but I did not realize how sore I would still be going on 3 months after surgery. He said it would probably be a good 6 months or more before I would be 100%. So I had to back off a little bit.

But I be back at it today hoping to get all the sanding done so I can get some primer sprayed. I'll post some pictures today.

#33 5 months ago

^^^^^ must live in the south /southeast cause there will be no painting unless your in the house.

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#34 5 months ago
Quoted from bssbllr:

^^^^^ must live in the south /southeast cause there will be no painting unless your in the house. [quoted image]

I'm in Iowa. Highs today about 30. I'll sand outside, but yeah paint inside for sure.

#35 5 months ago

Thanks for posting progress. Will be following.

#36 5 months ago

Its a heatwave up here this weekend!!

#37 5 months ago
Quoted from bssbllr:

Thanks for posting progress. Will be following.

Glad to hear it.

Quoted from Pinmasher:

Its a heatwave up here this weekend!!

Supposed to be mid forties maybe 50 down here this weekend coming up.

Here's some pictures of some of the repairs I've done so far. The back where all the partical board was broken is coming a long well.
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I also have the bottom glued in and taped off.
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The front had 2 large holes that have been addressed.

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#38 5 months ago

The neck of the cabinet has be repaired with a new peice of wood. Still lots of sanding to do.

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#39 5 months ago

I was able to get some primer sprayed today on the outside of the cabinet today.

Still have to spray the inside and work out the little flaws that the primer tends to show. Overall not looking too bad

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#40 5 months ago

Looks good Tim
Elbow grease works good!

#41 5 months ago

Wow what a difference. It’s coming along nicely.

#42 5 months ago

Thanks for the kind words of
encouragement.

Still working out the small flaws in the primer.

The back particle board is the worst to deal with. Stuff you will surely see when painted with the color. So more sanding to get it right.

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#43 5 months ago

I was able to get the final coats of primer on the cabinet after fixing all the little imperfection.

So while that dries I thought I would work on the cabinet wiring harness get it cleaned up and fix a few things on it.

Flipper switches are toast so I have new ones for those. New power cord will get solder in. Old one was missing the grounding prong

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#44 5 months ago
Quoted from timab2000:

particle board

Any tips or secrets for dealing with particle board to get it flat and filled?
-mof

#45 5 months ago
Quoted from mof:

Any tips or secrets for dealing with particle board to get it flat and filled?
-mof

I usually use this stuff

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#46 5 months ago

I got the yellow sprayed this morning. Overall it looks pretty good.

Had one issue, when I started to spray the can spit out the paint rather than a fine spray. I test sprayed on some cardboard 1st cause I have had this happen before, even after shaking the can for like 5 minutes.

So I'll have to re-sand the back to fix that and a run that appeared as well. Oh well back to the drawing board.
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#47 5 months ago

After re sanding the back of the cabinet and the front I finally got the paint to spray good and got a good finish on both ends.

Lots of extra work but that's the way it goes
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I have also slowly been working on getting some of the Hardware tumbled and polished out.

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#48 5 months ago

Made some progress today got the first color on one side of the cabinet sprayed looks pretty good

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#49 5 months ago

Working on getting the red on the other side of the cabinet today

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