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Fireball II Club (fans welcome!)

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#351 4 years ago

I sent my soundboard from my Fireball II to Coin op cauldron to have them work on it.

I'm a little nervous about it but I'll report back when I get to board back and let you know how they did

#352 4 years ago
Quoted from timab2000:

I sent my soundboard from my Fireball II to Coin op cauldron to have them work on it.
I'm a little nervous about it but I'll report back when I get to board back and let you know how they did

They will do just fine. Relax Clive knows !

#353 4 years ago

Awesome that's good to know

#354 4 years ago

Actually got an email from coin op cauldron letting me know that they got my board and it would be like 7 and 9 days before I get it back. So I was pretty impressed that they took the time to get ahold of me.

That's always a good sign

#355 4 years ago

just LOVE the way this game looks and plays, simple Bally FUN!

#356 4 years ago

Got another email from Coin Op Cauldron today. My soundboard is done and I should have it next week.

I think it's great that they are good enough to take time to email you and keep you posted.

I'll report back when it back in the game.

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#357 4 years ago

Grumpy (Don) was over & thought after I put in new drop targets they were not going down & up properly. He wasn't super familiar with Ballys but thought maybe the spring may be in the wrong spot or the spring may not be the correct 1.

Would someone be able to attach a few pictures of theirs or let me know if you can see something not right with mine? Thank you very much.

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#358 4 years ago

Here are pictures of both my left and right ones not sure if it helps you didn't really say what yours was doing

Mine all work just like I should just dirty unfortunately I'll fix that eventually
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#359 4 years ago

I did get my sound board back from Coin Op Cauldron and it works great! Very happy with it and the way the transaction happened. Would certainly recommend them.

#360 4 years ago

NOS playfield is for sale on Ebay.

#361 4 years ago
Quoted from jj44114:

NOS playfield is for sale on Ebay.

I saw that and am watching

#362 4 years ago
Quoted from timab2000:

Here are pictures of both my left and right ones not sure if it helps you didn't really say what yours was doing
Mine all work just like I should just dirty unfortunately I'll fix that eventually
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Thanks very much timab2000 !

Grumpy looked at your & my pictures & think the springs actually may be in the right spots but maybe the targets are not resetting or falling correctly because the playfield is up.

I will install the new drop targets in the other 2 assembly's... put the playfield down & see how they perform.

Thanks again for your help.

#363 4 years ago
Quoted from Quench:

flashing the four 12 volt "921" lamps in the doodle bug area during bonus collect.

"#912" lamps.

#364 4 years ago
Quoted from vec-tor:

"#912" lamps.

Schematic says #921 lamps. #912 will work fine (lower wattage).

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#365 4 years ago

My friend Don noticed 2 of the kick-out springs did not look right & the tension was wrong.

Would anyone know what the correct spring would be for these kick-outs or a part number I would look for? Thanks a lot.

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#366 4 years ago
Quoted from scampcamp:

My friend Don noticed 2 of the kick-out springs did not look right & the tension was wrong.
Would anyone know what the correct spring would be for these kick-outs or a part number I would look for? Thanks a lot.[quoted image][quoted image][quoted image][quoted image]

They look fine... those spring are OEM.

#367 4 years ago

My friend Grumpy (Don) noticed 2 springs on 2 of the kick-outs on my Bally Fireball ll did not look right & the tension was not correct.

Would anyone know where I could find the correct spring & the part number? Thanks a lot!

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#368 4 years ago
Quoted from vec-tor:

They look fine... those spring are OEM.

Really? Oh ok. Thanks. That's something less I need to replace.

#369 4 years ago
Quoted from scampcamp:

Really? Oh ok. Thanks. That's something less I need to replace.

Yes, they look funny, but those are the correct springs installed there.

#370 4 years ago

Finally got some time in on my game.
Couple questions.
1)How many balls are supposed to be in the game? This one has 3 balls in it.
2)Sometimes it will kick out a second ball and I have to plunge that one while the other ball is still in play.
3) I can lock the balls in the saucer but they never come out until end of ball. Are they supposed to come out while playing?

#371 4 years ago

Game uses three balls.

If it's kicking out two balls there could be something wrong with a small switch in the trough maybe an adjustment is needed on that. Or the small wire on the switch could be broken or missing

If you get both balls locked you need to hit the three stationary targets up by the top flipper and it will unlock them for multi-ball.

You only get multi-ball if both balls are locked

If you don't do that at the end of the game it will kick the balls back out.

Hope that helps fun game

#372 4 years ago
Quoted from arcademojo:

Finally got some time in on my game.
Couple questions.
1)How many balls are supposed to be in the game? This one has 3 balls in it.
2)Sometimes it will kick out a second ball and I have to plunge that one while the other ball is still in play.
3) I can lock the balls in the saucer but they never come out until end of ball. Are they supposed to come out while playing?

Answer:
1) 3 balls.
2) check for sticky out trough switchs.
3) ball must go through top rollover?.

#373 4 years ago
Quoted from timab2000:

Game uses three balls.
If it's kicking out two balls there could be something wrong with a small switch in the trough maybe an adjustment is needed on that. Or the small wire on the switch could be broken or missing
If you get both balls locked you need to hit the three stationary targets up by the top flipper and it will unlock them for multi-ball.
You only get multi-ball if both balls are locked
If you don't do that at the end of the game it will kick the balls back out.
Hope that helps fun game

That right... the top three targets... I forgot... to many years.

#374 4 years ago
Quoted from timab2000:

Game uses three balls.
If it's kicking out two balls there could be something wrong with a small switch in the trough maybe an adjustment is needed on that. Or the small wire on the switch could be broken or missing
If you get both balls locked you need to hit the three stationary targets up by the top flipper and it will unlock them for multi-ball.
You only get multi-ball if both balls are locked
If you don't do that at the end of the game it will kick the balls back out.
Hope that helps fun game

Quoted from vec-tor:

Answer:
1) 3 balls.
2) check for sticky out trough switchs.
3) ball must go through top rollover?.

Thanks guys. Will check it out. Agreed might be a sticky/bad switch.

#375 4 years ago

I am putting a new part on the lamp driver board.

Is there a correct way on the way it goes in?

Thanks

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#376 4 years ago

Version 1.
Keep the text facing the same side as the old ones.

#377 4 years ago
Quoted from rotordave:

Flail wildly.

rd.

Came here to find out what people shoot for during multiball as I have never worked it out.... but it seems like I have been doing it right all time

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#378 4 years ago

final resting places for my old playfield and the older backglass. I made the frames out of cedar privacy fence slats. I used the old playfield glass as a cover for the playfield. Treated the cedar with boiled linseed oil.

I'm going to add an engraved plaque on the top with the playfield manufacturing info - 3-31-81 5 5 12 sometime down the road

And I have a spare backglass if something unfortunate ever happens to the newer one in the game
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#379 4 years ago

I need some help everyone! I'm trying to put my hands on another Fireball II pin as I was stupid about a year ago and sold mine. Oh how I miss it! Any leads to a project one or someone selling one would be great. I'm not afraid of a project, which my Fireball II was, so anything in that realm would be okay. Wish I could find the guy I sold it to and try to buy it back. That's probably slim though. Thanks for the help.

#380 4 years ago

list your games on pinballowners.com, there is a wishlist section. It also lists - by games - owners and whether they would be willing to sell them.

Put it on your wishlist at this site, you'll be notified via e-mail if one comes up for sale. And check ebay, of course.

#381 4 years ago

oh btw, got new instruction cards for my Fireball II from Mad Voodoo. They weren't available when I made an order for my D&D, so I contacted them, they put them into production and they look great

http://www.madvoodoo.com/#/twoPane/product/221

They arrived this morning, along with the cards for my LOTR.

#382 4 years ago

On my Fireball II, I have an old problem with the flashing bulbs. 3 flashes normally, but the 1st one down at the left side, always burn when I light up the machine. I use 921 lamps as described in the manual. I have burned so many bulbs, that I would want an help to find the problem. I have replaced the bulb support too, but without any success. Any help is welcome.

#383 4 years ago

I've made two videos to show the problem. I've made a mistake in the previous post : It's not the one down at the left side, but the one up at the left side.

In the first video, I light up the pinball with the bulb, and all light on, and the bulb burns if I don't light off immediately the pinball. Then, I light on the pinball without the bulb, and all is OK. Then I put back the bulb, all light on, and the bulb burns.

In the second video, I show you the connections of the faulty bulb.

https://vimeo.com/356497741

https://vimeo.com/356500407

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#384 4 years ago

In need of a nice FBII apron. Pm me Thanks

#385 4 years ago

Does anyone know where I can find some coin mechs for my Fireball ll? I need 2 quarter & 1 Susan B. Anthony mech.

Thanks

#386 4 years ago
Quoted from freddy:

In need of a nice FBII apron. Pm me Thanks

There's a nice long thread about repro Bally aprons / shooter guides here:
https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/reproduction-bally-aprons

#387 4 years ago
Quoted from pinfixer:

There's a nice long thread about repro Bally aprons / shooter guides here:
https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/reproduction-bally-aprons

Don’t see FBII

#388 4 years ago

That one was not reproduced.

#389 4 years ago
Quoted from Manu2:

I've made two videos to show the problem. I've made a mistake in the previous post : It's not the one down at the left side, but the one up at the left side.
In the first video, I light up the pinball with the bulb, and all light on, and the bulb burns if I don't light off immediately the pinball. Then, I light on the pinball without the bulb, and all is OK. Then I put back the bulb, all light on, and the bulb burns.
In the second video, I show you the connections of the faulty bulb.
https://vimeo.com/356497741
https://vimeo.com/356500407

The SCR is blown out.

#390 4 years ago

I'm trying to find some 555 sockets that attach under the Fireball ll playfield on Marco's website but can't find anything.

Do I need to search for a part number? I didn't see anything for this in the manual.

Thanks for any help.

#391 4 years ago

I called Marco & we figured out what I needed & ordered a few of these & a couple more that are similar.
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#392 4 years ago
Quoted from vec-tor:

The SCR is blown out.

Thanks for your answer. But I don't think that there is an SCR for these bulbs, because they are on a 43v line and they are all linked together.

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#393 4 years ago
Quoted from Manu2:

Thanks for your answer. But I don't think that there is an SCR for these bulbs, because they are on a 43v line and they are all linked together.[quoted image]

SCR Q18 2N5060-------drives the MOC 3011
The MOC 3011 drives the four #921 lamps.
SCR input has a #555 lamp socket.
1) is the #555 lamp good? schematics ref.#44 lamp.
2) does the lamp turn off and on in lamp test?
3) if the #555 lamp is "on" all the time, you have a blown SCR. Schematic ref. #44 lamp.
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4) if the #555 lamp functions O.K. in lamp test, then you have a blown MOC 3011
--- circuit.

#394 4 years ago
Quoted from vec-tor:

SCR Q18 2N5060-------drives the MOC 3011
The MOC 3011 drives the four #921 lamps.
SCR input has a #555 lamp socket.
1) is the #555 lamp good? schematics ref.#44 lamp.
2) does the lamp turn off and on in lamp test?
3) if the #555 lamp is "on" all the time, you have a blown SCR. Schematic ref. #44 lamp.
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------
4) if the #555 lamp functions O.K. in lamp test, then you have a blown MOC 3011
--- circuit.

Thanks for this new answer. I will test all this week-end. I think that the #555 lamp is good, and works well in test. I think that I've already changed the 2948-451 board, but not sure. I think more of a short somewhere in the circuit, because I have disassembled all a long time ago, and it's since this time that the #921 blows. I will come back with fresh news !

#395 4 years ago

This is the results of my tests :

SCR Q18 2N5060-------drives the MOC 3011
The MOC 3011 drives the four #921 lamps.
SCR input has a #555 lamp socket.
1) is the #555 lamp good? schematics ref.#44 lamp. => the lamp is good
2) does the lamp turn off and on in lamp test? => the lamp turn off and on in lamp test
3) if the #555 lamp is "on" all the time, you have a blown SCR. Schematic ref. #44 lamp. => so not this
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4) if the #555 lamp functions O.K. in lamp test, then you have a blown MOC 3011 => I'm not sure. Do the 3 other flash lamp would work with a blown MOC 3011 ?

What I have done : I have unsoldered a green wire who linked the blown bulb with two other wires : a red one (not totally red, but I can't see the stripe), and a black one that comes from the magnet.

With this unsoldered wire, I have the 4 flashing bulbs working. They are flashing in lamp test mode, is it the normal behaviour ? Because, before unsoldering this wire, they were flashing in coil test mode only with the magnet (test #16). Now, they do not flash anymore in the coil test mode. I discover that with some #921 bulbs, only 2 or 3 light. With the actual mix of #921 bulbs (not all the same), I have two bright and two dim. It's better than nothing.

I would want to solder back the wire, but before I want to be sure what is the normal test : lamp test or coil test ?

I have tested too, 2 other boards : AS-2518-82 in place of the AS-2518-67, but with these boards there is no flashing bulb at all.

For the moment, I have done only tests, not a game. I can do pictures or videos. Thanks for the time you take to help me.

#396 4 years ago
Quoted from Manu2:

I would want to solder back the wire, but before I want to be sure what is the normal test : lamp test or coil test ?

The flashers/brights are driven by the lamp scr...
Therefore, it is part of the lamp test not coil test...

#397 4 years ago

I've played a game with 4 #921 bulbs in place, and working in lamp test. But in game, no flashing bulb during the collect bonus (orange arrow in saucer).

I've soldered back the green wire to the first #921 bulb... and it blows ! But I have the 3 others that flashes during the collect bonus.

Now, I'm back to the initial problem.

#398 4 years ago

Question? Is the lamp driver board the original OEM or is it
a led replacement style board?
Once, I had to work on a Fireball II and the brights would not work...
Put back the old OEM factory lamp driver board back in and the flashers/brights worked.

#399 4 years ago
Quoted from vec-tor:

Question? Is the lamp driver board the original OEM or is it
a led replacement style board?
Once, I had to work on a Fireball II and the brights would not work...
Put back the old OEM factory lamp driver board back in and the flashers/brights worked.

It's the original lamp driver board, not a replacement.

#400 4 years ago

Hey all I am looking for a replacement playfield for my FB2. Can you guys put me on a lead?

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