Fire! Fireplug won&#039;t stay down

I have a new to me Fire!, and the fireplug won't stay down. I thought it was just that the spring was missing, but I replaced it, and it still doesn't work. I don't understand how the mech is supposed to work. When guide pin is on the right side, the raising or lowering plug just keeps it on the right side. Never flips over to the left side. If I start it on the left side, it ends up on the right, and stays there. I saw some old theads on this, but nothing recently. Is there a new known fix for this, replacement parts, or I'm stuck?

Thanks for any help.
Aaron

#2 6 years ago

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wayout440

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Quoted from cincyITguy:
I have a new to me Fire!, and the fireplug won't stay down. I thought it was just that the spring was missing, but I replaced it, and it still doesn't work. I don't understand how the mech is supposed to work. When guide pin is on the right side, the raising or lowering plug just keeps it on the right side. Never flips over to the left side. If I start it on the left side, it ends up on the right, and stays there. I saw some old theads on this, but nothing recently. Is there a new known fix for this, replacement parts, or I'm stuck?
Thanks for any help.
Aaron

You'll probably need to replace the cam and maybe the springs. The plastic wears on the cams grooves, and unfortunately the only fix is to replace the part
http://www.ministryofpinball.com/en/game-specific-items/williams/fire/flat-cam-with-groove.html

#3 6 years ago

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cincyITguy

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http://dts2268.mivamerchantdev.com/flat-cam-03-8090-wgroove-system-11-games.html

Thanks. For anyone else looking, this site claims to have 29 of them left. Will report back if I actually get it, and it is correct.

#4 6 years ago

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Wire Forms (resized).JPG

#5 6 years ago

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Slim2013

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https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/i-finally-fixed-my-fire-plug-ball-saver

Oops, Can you look to see and maybe post a location of the wire forms in the last post, Thanks

#6 6 years ago

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donjagra

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#7 6 years ago

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cincyITguy

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what is that wireform? I tried lube and a rubber band. Didn't work for me. The guide pin binds a lot about 1/2 way.

#8 6 years ago

SJM

Slim2013

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Hello,
The wire forms pictured and posted are totally unrelated to the post. I was wondering if you could find where they go and send a or post a photo . I'm restoring a FIRE and don't know where they go. I posted this here as I knew you had a fire and could look.
If you don't mind looking to see if you can find them

#9 6 years ago

SJM

Slim2013

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Make sure the Mech is configured correctly for the post

Post Mech (resized).JPG

#10 6 years ago

SJM

Slim2013

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Back side

Post Mech 1 (resized).JPG

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#11 6 years ago

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cincyITguy

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