i had a voltaire for a bit but the high price couldn't be justified agree 100%

Last time i played or even saw a MM in person was about 15 years ago when i was 12'ish years old. Must have been brand new back then.

I've played MM a lot on the Williams Pinball collection, got the rules down pat. Not really that deep, but it doesn't have to be. It's awesomeness knows no bounds. I would love to play one again someday.

Pins are just like every thing else, if you go into it hearing too much about something or hearing that is the "GREATEST" of the "worst POS of all time" or it sells for "__ $$$" than you go in with a bias. Its the same with movies, music, or whatever. MM and CV are both awesome games, as well as TZ and BSD.

It just comes down to personal preference in pins, but I always try to go into a machine blind so to speak (not thinking how expensive it is to own, or how highly its rated) and you always have a good time for it.

Whenever I take a newbie out to play pinball in PDX, I always have them play an MM (even though the ruleset is too easy for me anymore). It's a fantastic gateway pin so to speak. CV too, the ringmaster is a hit with newbies. But I don't tell them that they are some of the highest regarded pins of all time, or some of the most expensive, I just let 'em play. And they usually have an awesome time, see pinball machines in a new light, and get sucked into this shared sickness we all have. And I know, at least on this forum, is regarded as a good thing.

Interesting I also agree with you 100%. I think MM is a great game and am not so sure about CV but there are many others that are equally as good and much cheaper.

Ive had them both, well still have my MM, love the game, by far one of my favorites.
CV its cool concept but not for me

First of all BR, for shame, going to another forums pinball party- Ye needs to walk the plank ya scurvy dog! Its cool that you got a chance to play MM and CV. I wondered what your opinion would be of them. We all have favorite pins and MM happens to be the holy grail for me.

lol, yeah sure, except it seems most of pinside is either out of the USA or in the midwest.
I wish I could have went to that "other forum party". .. *hush hush*

anyone know the going $$ on MM right now?

There is a big range depending on the condition. Believe it or not, I think they start around $6,000 for a piece of crap right off route. They can go all the way up to $15,000+ for a high end restoration.

If someone really f'n digs Medieval stuff the MM is their game.
If someone really f'n digs the Circus & Magic as well the CV is their game.
Themes sell in Pinball.

I saw a pretty nice (not perfect) one go for $8,500 on ebay the other day. Seems like prices are starting to slowly come back down to reality. Still got a ways to go to get there though.

You forgot to mention the CC that was at the party. Even more money and it was mint. Insane..

I don't f'n care about golf, i have NGG
I don't f'n care about arab things, i have TOTAN...

+1 on that I agree 100%. I always seem to have fun playing MM not sure how it would be to own. I am not the biggest fan of CV but it is a solid pin I can see why some love it.

+1

JM was not a great movie at all, love the pin.
I've never even seen the old DW series, favorite pin in the house.
I'm not much of a stormchaser, but WW is a great game.
SG, the movie is alright I guess,but what a great pin.

then again, i'm just one of those guys who doesn't care about the theme at all.

Whether or not MM is worth 10,000 + I can't say. But I can say that it was a blast to play, I loved playing it. A local greasy spoon had one for about 8 months. I was so upset when the machine was replaced. CV was ok, nothing special but i do like light shows.

I fell in love with Tatman's MM at the party before is last one. I played several times that night. I think I would buy one. I might even trade two pins for one nice MM someday. I could live with MM and WOZ next too each other. LOL Here I go again.....

If MM is the best pin made, and let's face it, many people are of that opinion, it makes perfect sense that they sell for the prices that they sell for.

Does that mean the price is worth it? That completely depends on ones priorities and financial situation. You can only say whether it is, or is not, worth it to *you*.

Thanks guys,
I remember a few years ago they (MM)were at $7000

think the WOZ pin is looking better and better now