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Feds Seek Ban on Flavored Vape Liquid/Cigarettes fine

By tbutler6

4 years ago


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    #219 4 years ago
    Quoted from Rager170:

    There still isnt evidence that vaping is "terrible". There needs to be some clear evidence of that and there still is not.

    This is a seriously ignorant statement. There are chest imaging series done comparing smokers and habitual vapers. The two groups are virtually indistinguishable. Additionally, you are inhaling heavy metals in trace amounts, as the heating elements in these degrade. Where do you think the small bits of the heating elements go? The vaping companies cannot/have not disclosed everything that is chemically in vape.

    Oh, and let’s not forget vaping is backed by Big Tobacco which has a century plus history of lying about the health hazards of actual smoking all while trying to make their product more addictive.

    For those who want to add Cannabis to the argument... do you know how that was grown? What pesticides or fertilizers were used and are now being aerosolized into your lungs?

    Stupid monkeys.

    #245 4 years ago
    Quoted from Rager170:

    Sorry, but your information is incorrect. That might have been found in a product or two but not for everything. And the metal stuff was from manufacturing, not due to heating. You cant just lump all products under that statement by any means.
    Also, there have been no reports that I have seen showing vaping is as bad as smoking like you mention.

    My information is 100% accurate. I work in the biotech/pharma industry. SKB has a smoking cessation product. Part of their product research is looking at use in patients using any nicotine substance - i.e. vaping. Baseline chest X-rays and CTs are done to see what, if any, effect (improvement) may coincide with nicotine-replacement. The baseline chest images are startlingly similar for vaping and smoking.

    And you honestly believe that the extremely fine wire filaments in the device don’t degrade over time with constant cycling of heat and cooling? That would run contrary to literally EVERYTHING they teach about the physical properties of metals.

    You have your right to blindly defend something that you have no long term information on and is provided by a manufacturing base with a long, documented history of fraudulent, deceptive practices. I have the right not to want to foot the bill for your behavior when it likely results in negative consequences.

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