I find it hard to believe this garbage was produced by the same people as TWD.

Next week they can kill off every character and I would not care. I'm rooting for the Zombies on this one.

I am looking forward to next week. Because it is the last episode for the season and this crap fest can end. The way these people view the military is really absurd.

This just shows me how much they lucked out with the original. If this writing leaks into the original its over, the magic is gone. The zombies have left the building so shut the lights off.

Funny, I have not read anything about FTWD outside of this Pinside thread. If I have time I am going to look outside and see what other fans are saying. But I have the feeling it will be the same, just a lot more of it.

So "good" kids rather than having respect for the dead become vandals? Screw them, should be shot for looting but it is unfortunate that they will be around. Could have been likeable, now they are trash.

Yes, they like to push evil military and government. Getting tired of that overused plot line. Maybe its a group of environmentalists thinking they are getting back at some "big bad corporation" that end up causing the biggest issue ever by smashing up some lab.

My thoughts exactly. These bunch of nice guys just killed how many people by releasing the Zombie herd? Oh wait, it is the evil military so we don't care.

They did it to get three people back and ended up with just the druggie.

The druggie thinks everyone is in his world now? How's that? He spends his life leaching off other people and now those people and resources are not available. Sure, his mom grabbed a bunch of drugs for him, she is a tool. Druggies death would have been the only saving grace to this season.

Oh, and little idiot boy trying to take on 3 soldiers. That was just stupid. Why not just say "we don't have the keys" or something? But trying to punch him out was so stupid.

The best thing about this show is the fact that now that it is over the real show comes back on Sunday. I hope it does not start to suffer from whatever happened to this train-wreck.

Does anyone know if this is the consensus on blogs outside of Pinside? Is AMC hearing this?

So well done. From the characters to the filming. The Black and White cuts to the past are a nice touch for building the "how we go to this point".

Story Sync is a bit lame, but nothing to do with the show.

Bravo -

When Carol blew up the propane tank at Terminus all it did was create a bunch of Zombies on fire.

There were signs of it early on. The first clue was when they found two zombie security guards that had no bite marks. But at that point no one had died of anything other than a bite. The fact that the virus was in everyone and that being bitten only accelarated death was the secret the CDC guy whispered to Rick at the very end of season 1.

Fear The Walking Dead had the military using the electric cattle hammer to cause brain trauma to keep them down. So they learned about this early.

Of course the reason is for future conflict. But I thought they said something to the extent of if they started getting the heard to riled up they would be breaking loose and running wild. If they kept them calm they could be controlled and lead.

Also, that would take a lot of fuel they might not have or need. I forgot how the ones outside Mercy Hospital got burned. The tar on the road was made molten and still they were alive, just stuck to it.

Glen will wake up next to Suzanne Pleshette.

I think Glen is dead. Now Maggie has lost Glen, her father and sister. By the time this is over Carol, Michone and Maggie will be the bad-ass women trio.

I think people are really that stupid in panicked survival situations. They can't turn a screw driver before the apocalypse why would zombies make them know how to use guns an knives. If there is going to be one night of snow they panic and clear the shelves of milk and bread do you think they would think about escape routes when a herd is coming at them?

Think about basic drowning rescue. A panicked drowning person is an extreme danger to the person trying to save them. This is the whole point of what Rick has been saying. These people should have been dead in the beginning.

Great show. Puts "Fear" to complete shame.

Oh, I think Rick gets rescued by Daryl on the motorcycle. Either picking him up or distracting them while he lays low.

Just to clarify where Rick cut his hand. He was running down the road and came on 3 zombies eating a corpse. Glen talked on the radio and this made them notice him. He stabbed zombie 1 in the head. Zombie 2 stood up with a large knife going into his back shoulder and coming out the front of his chest. When Rick held the zombie back for a second before stabbing he cut himself on the zombie blood cover knife tip. So this can go either way.

I do not know the comics. But these guys have had more zombie blood in there mouths and eyes at this point. And the fact that "everyone has it in their systems" I wonder if they are immune to small doses at this point.

And all 3 episodes take place at the same time over a few hours. So cool.

Maybe "saliva" is stronger than blood?

Eh, not a plot hole, just standard for having a show. If you want stupid expiation it can be as simple as - whatever keeps them animated makes them seen alive to insects.

Insects eat the carrion. If that was what was happening the only Zombies left would be fresh ones. Think about it. A few months in all would be dirt.

Disappointed. Why waste an extra long episode like this? Do you really care that much why Morgan won't kill? It could have been done with a few flash backs. Is this all to explain why he is keeping Wolf guy alive? And you knew the poor goat was going to get it in the end.

Once again Morgan going all zen has blood on his hands. When he first ran into the Wolf guys he knocked them out and put them in a car for safety. Then they went on to slaughter people at Alexandria so how many live are on him? Now we waste an hour and a half to see his reckless behavior continuing. I hope Carol takes him out or the Wolf guy himself.

Poor goat.

Remember every zombie, every body buried in Eastman's back year all were people.

And I only care about the goat.

I thought the call for help at the end was from the writers of Fear TWD.

Didn't "D" empty the gas tanker into the forest? That's why there is a burn section that took out their friends in the greenhouse.

Could be. I just figured it Daryl found it at the beginning (or end) of the burn. Like they opened it up, drove, parked it and lit it.

That is so funny. I read that yesterday and got confused. I decided to back away slowly and figure out if it was just me.

Ginger guy who does not understand having a kid will self sacrifice.

Maggie is hot in real life but new ones are coming.

How many people have you killed? Why?

NO COMIC SPOILERS PLEASE

Carol didn't want to kill the other woman because she realized she came from the same roots as her. And even lost 4 daughters. So there by the grace of God go I. But she pulled a trigger to the side of the other girls head without hesitation and set a bunch of people on fire.

Why would Daryl be dead? The guy holds the gun to his shoulder and the camera gets sprayed with blood. But as it was fading out you hear him say something like - He'll be alright or he'll live or something. If was obviously just to hurt him for fun.

Also and island cuts off their own access to supplies and escape. No more medicine (remember getting sick in the prison), canned food, gasoline, ammo . . . These guys just started planting food. They are trading since the supplies have run low and are still raiding vending machines. Escaping the walkers has moved down a few pegs on the list of things to worry about.

I don't want to heard anything about the comic. I try and skip when someone say comic or spoiler. Please go start a Walking Dead comic thread. I was getting ready to start skipping the thread because I do hate when things get spoiled. I read the thread only after I catch up on the show.

I wish there didn't have to be punishment and just common courtesy to people discussing a show they all like, but some people don't read or care about what other people are asking. So I go with lowepg, send them to GB3.

No, I don't plan on reading the comic. I don't plan on going to the comic book store to catch up on 10 years worth of a comic. I do plan on watching the show. So I started reading this thread with "show discussion" in the title. If you start a thread called All things Walking Dead or Walking Dead show vs Comic, I will avoid reading.

I read your comment before it was edited and was bummed that I had. I am not the one who reported it as abuse or anything because I know sometimes this stuff comes with the territory. But I guess someone did. And now that the moderator brought it up for a discussion I am making my opinion known. I don't want to hear anything about the comic. Sorry if your opinion is that I should go read the comic to ruin the show for myself, I'll pass. Editing did not work since I had already read it, so I guess punitive action are what it takes for people to have courtesy to other's requests then so be it.

Me also.

I hope the junky kid gets eaten by a Sharknado. Then I might become a dedicated watcher.

Do those commercials on the airplane have anything to do with the regular show or are they trying to get you to watch some kind of on-line episodes?

That is a spoiler. One again why do we have to heard about the Fucking Comic! He did not say he could not kill the leader and he smashed in someone unknown. Could be Rick but I guess not if he said that in the comic.

We have a big ongoing discussion about not wanting to hear about the comic? Why does every other post mention the comic still?

To me the whole Negan Army thing is a bit unbelievable. It would take a lot of resources to keep a group of that size fed, house, armed and happy enough not to leave. Resources are dwindling with no new gas or ammo being produced. They can't steal enough from the occasional passed by on the road and the small communities are not producing that much (from what we have seen).

In this episode the spent how much to frighten Rick and a camper of people? All day food for the men, gas for the cars, diesel for the heavy equipment, ammo to frighten them. For what? In the hope they will produce? If they just had the army drive up to the gates of Alexandria and say "This is what you are up against" it would have been over.

If we find out there is a thriving community still refining oil, mining minerals and making ammo then maybe. But then it would be so huge there is no future for Rick and the gang and that would be it. It really would be a whole new world order. But that is what we are left thinking.

I agree. (on both)

I figure not Rick or his kid because they would not be able to hold back. Same for Maggie and Glen (also they each just got a pass). We tend to like Darly too much and he is a big money maker for selling toys of him, cross bows and motorcycles, (but possible).
Abraham, while possible, seemed to get a pass from volunteering.

Maybe Michonne just to keep Rick on edge by killing every love interest.
To me most likely Sasha, Eugeen or the guy from Alexandria (brought with them like a red shirt guy from Star Trek). Red shirt seems like it is not exciting enough, but when a major player gets killed we see it and go into shock (Like Beth).

We all wanted Morgan dead but he finally killed someone to say Carol so he's not totally hated. And even the priest is less of a jerk.

Last week moderator pmWolf (Pete) stepped in because of abuse reports. I have not done one because it is a basement thread. But he asked about people here deciding what was to be discussed or left out. Most people said they don't want to hear about the comics. They have no intention of reading them and just want to discuss the show. That even the discussion of the differences between the show and the comic is enough of a spoiler that is someone wants to start a thread about Comic vs Show they show do that, but leave the comic out of this thread.

Too late, this time I already sent in an abuse report for your wonderful comment towards me. No reason.

Sorry, go to post 597 (4th to last on the last page) just 5 days ago and read the discussions afterwards. If you want to call me "butt hurt" first thing on a Monday morning when I just wanted to discuss the show it is not appreciated.

And then he said he could not decide so turned to eenie meenie miney moe. This cleans the slate and makes it random. Could be anyone.

Then I am remembering the order wrong. I thought he did not say anything after eenie meenie but before.

I know what he said and that it is most likely not Rick or Carl. But the entire purpose of eenie meenie is to make [believe] it is random. So everything is off the table. As I remember he does not go eenie meenie, stop on the person who was randomly picked and say OK you two shut up while I whack this guy. He says this is going to happen and you can cry if you want, I have decided how I'm going to pick (paraphrasing of course) then goes into his game.

I'm sure we will see it a couple of more times before the new season starts. And knowing what happens we will look for signs. But that episode had so many slow spots on the road it will be hard to watch too many times.

And he down votes you because he thinks he's funny. Well there is no excuse now that there is a thread for the comic readers.

Damn, you just ruined the Sopranos, I never saw the last season

You can't go by what they filmed. Look at the Glen under the dumpster cliff hanger. What you were shown had him dead. When they can back it was different and he escaped. So anything can be a fake out.

Thank you. Now maybe the people who did read the comics will stay away and stop giving thumbs down to anyone who does not want to hear what is going to happen. I don't think they realize that they know too much and even the simplest comments can be biased.

Jesus and the separate communities have got to team up somehow eventually.

Eh, kid wants to kill himself and you don't care. I guess they figured if worked for Beth in the farmhouse it would work for this show.

I so agree. No one cares about these people is the first thing. I get the rushing in the beginning, they want to show how it happened fast and caught everyone off guard. But an event happening fast does not mean zero to apocalypse in a couple of 1 hour shows. All they seemed to want to do was make the military out to be a bunch of bad guys who get off on hurting civilians.

Interesting idea. I would have liked to see scientists scrambling with the problem rather than were is poor drug kid going to get his next fix from.

I did season 1 and it was a tough start but I got to like it. Season 2 goes totally off the wall and is, uh, an acquired taste.

Well, season 2 gets into Zombie weed and other strangeness.

TWD - Well, that's why were here.
I never knew anyone else who even saw Jericho. Good show and completed fine. Didn't go to long or leave you on cliff hanger.
The Stand, you can't hear Blue Oyster Cult without thinking about that show now
Have not watched Revolution or the 100.
Falling Skies gave me too much of the cheap Sci-Fi vibe. Like they didn't expect it to go another season and just made it up as they went along.

I have caught some of Dominion and would not mind seeing that from the start.

I keep forgetting we are supposed to care about these people. I am so rooting for the zombies.

I go to bed right after the show. Every once and a while the Talking Dead will come on afterwards and when you see whose on I watch for a few minutes. When they said "... who plays Madison" it goes click-off and to bed. If it said Maggie / Lauren Cohan you want to watch.

The only people you find half interesting are Strand and Salazar. The main family Madison, Travis and their kids just suck. The kids - Nick we want dead, Chris wants to kill himself and we don't care, Alicia is stupid and yes, I had to look up the names.

I have a feeling any main characters getting killed on this show are because their lawyers got them out of their contracts.

I have wondered that myself. I assume because it is that bad.

I think it got a second season simply because Walking Dead fans like to keep the time slot occupied until the next season.

Perfect. Turn it into "The Origin of Negan" episode. He comes in with a baseball bat and slaughters the current cast. I would be cheering at the TV.

I don't know. Still some pretty stupid decisions and situations.

"Should I shoot? Should I shoot?" - uh, how about at least a warning shot to show you are serious, stop them in their tracks and wake everyone up? Oh wait, if you did something logical like that we can't do a 2 or 3 show [obligatory] rescue plot.

Let me see, are you worried about the police? No, 90%+ of the populations is dead. You are not going to get in trouble. Are you having moral conflicts? Well, you just beat a man to death with a piece of airplane last week so we know you have it in you. Man, I wish they had shot that kid.

As for the "bad guys", why would you risk your prisoners getting free and hurting one of you or somehow regaining control. You are now making your livings as pirates. If there is someone useful left alive then fine. Everyone else goes overboard without thinking. As a matter of fact just like Negan you need to set an example to keep everyone in line. Nope, these guys let them sit on the comfy chairs and discuss baby names over a drink.

I love [sarcastic] how druggie kid is a super hero now. Swimming against the tide and cool face to face confrontations with the dead "because as an addict he's already dead" (oohh so deep). We don't see him getting his daily fixes and there has not been enough time for any kind of withdrawal / rehab. So they still have the meds to keep him from being sick. But have you ever dealt with a opiate-head? This kid would have fallen asleep an drown after 10' of swimming. A good wave would snap him in half.

Pill? He's a full blow needle popping heroin addict (somehow with nice white Hollywood teeth). The pills are only to keep some form of opiate in his system so he's not in full blown withdrawals. Without heroin or methadone and with limited pills he would be half out of it and sick all the time. Remember in season 1 he was sneaking into the old guy's room and sticking the guys IV into his own arm? Right before that he was begging mom for more pills and cramping over in pain.

But probably after reading the fan base saying they could care less for him they down play the entire part of story line.

I don't think he could not get the gun to work. I'd have to see it again but I think the magazine was missing. No bullets, no shoot.

I'm thinking Salazar took them when he was snooping through there.

Show the others how quickly he will abandon them to save his own hide. Makes it easier later when they decide to dump him.

I think what happened was that someone from the show actually read the reviews and are deciding who to kill to make the fans happy.

They realized we didn't give a crap about dad and wanted mopey kid to "look at the flowers". So they go away, but maybe to be seen again? (sucks).

We also wanted druggie kid dead since S1E1. They still don't want to kill him either so they are going for some kind of "transcends to a new level" character. Well, he's not wearing the puffy shirt anymore but we still want him dead.

Salazar just wanted out. He realized this show was doomed and wanted out of his contract.

The whole concept of this lady keeping the dead safe seems oddly familiar. Oh that's right, can you say the barn on Hershel's farm?

Are we watching this show because nothing else is on? To keep a place holder for when the real show comes back? Or is it that we can't avert our eyes from the train wreck.

I go to bed at 10:00 to be ready for a fun Monday in the office. So it is perfect for me. There is nothing else on and the show has so many problems it help me forget about my own.

Agreed that Salazar might not be burned up. But doubtful he'll live since he lost his mind and wanted to go.

But did Celia the woman poisoning everyone die? Madison locked her it with the dead relatives but we didn't see her when Salazar went to burn them or when she went back and saw Salazar in the fire. If she was dead they would have made it a point to show her as a zombie. My fear it will turn into a crazy lady and druggie cult of the dead chasing them. She is this shows governor.

I hope not. I'm rooting for the zombies.

The main show is based on a successful comic. So the lazy writers can pretend they are working and take the credit.

FTWD shows the real capabilities of these hacks.

Only if they kill off most of them.

OK, I'll start. While I hate druggie boy and would like to see him dead it was nice to watch him suffer a real lot. But in the end his being safe made me sad. What an idiot giving up his food and water because some woman has a baseball bat? In the land where you fight zombie hordes and robbers galore you run from a bat? Dumb.

I was rooting for the dogs.

Two story lines, both suck.

Story line 1: Idiot druggie boy (IDB) -

Yes, they exit the bus and are pretty much ignored by the zombies. A little blood and even the zombie they took the blood from does not attack them. In the original TWD season 1 they covered themselves in guts but a little rain and they were visible to the zombies by sent alone. Also when you attack a zombie or are even recognized by one it usually sets off a chain reaction.

Then when idiot druggie boy is about to get his hand chopped off he uses his IDB powers to double the amount of supplies the killers were giving them. WTF. They would have just killed them and taken everything without thinking twice.

Ending with IDB singing along with a cult like choir.

Story line 2: The lucky ones -

Why so lucky? The first place these guys go to they think the lobby looks cleaned out. So they split so half can go upstairs.

Down stairs a well stocked bar with clean glasses allow our tough zombie battling heroes to go completely of guard. Where we learn important details like Madison originally coming from Alabama.

Upstairs where hot showers and honor bars flow like a cornucopia. And Idiot Boy's Idiot Sister (IBIS) learns that people can give up and kill themselves. I know I never heard about suicide until I was in my 20s.

Ending with a rain of zombies to cliff hanger for next week's travesty. Why did the zombies after all this time suddenly decide to walk off 10 story balconies? Was it the off-tune piano playing calling them like pie-eyed pipers? I'm sure a lobby-bar piano can be heard around the entire hotel. That would not bother people during a normal guest season.

Yes, I watched a bunch of Z-nation the other day. At least they admit they are off the wall.

I love it. I think Suzanne Pleshette should be in the hospital bed next to him. (Bob Newhart / Newhart reference)

Yes, the tiger thing might just coin a modern day phrase for zombie shows. Something like - Boy did they jump the tiger.

The show opened strong with that wedding scene. I really liked that and was hoping they got a new guy in charge of the writing staff.

But then . . .

What do you do with the story line for A-hole kid and his A-hole dad? The kid just told his father he does not want to get back with the other group, wants to team up with the new punks and then kills an innocent man in cold blood for protecting his home. Gee dad, do you even like your kid anymore? Time to make him look at the flowers?

I guess I will start this week. Even though I started drifting more to my computer rather than giving this show my full attention.

So once again the writers could not come up with something so they watched a show called The Walking Dead for ideas. Another stolen plot line like "leading a horde around"!?!?!? Also, rather than taking out the masses in three easier to control chunks they risk the timing of bring together three different groups to the exact some point. But wait! What if someone is late? Whew, 2 seconds of suspense for doing something stupid.

It used to be if you killed one the others got agitated and attacked. But now if you put some guts on yourself you can just walk up and stick them in the head.

Idiot Druggie Boy is just such a hero isn't he? You could tell from the start they want us to love this kid and once again he uses his IDB powers to trick the bad guys and in the end get the girl.

I hope if [when] this show finally gets cancelled they wind this thing up by letting the audience see them all get killed in a final episode. Wimpy Dad does not have the heart to show Chris mercy and gets eaten by him. Madison jumps off a pier but no one is there.

And IDB? The bad guys should come in and shoot everyone up in front of him. Shove some Oxy down his throat until he is hooked again and lock him up with some walkers in a way that when full withdrawals kick in he decides to turn himself into zombie chow.

Sorry, I hate Monday mornings.

At the end of each episode you have to decide for yourself who you want dead the most. IDB had been on top for most of the show. Chris sure wants you to hate him. But this one gave the award to Madison (IDMB) for most likely to get a Shane-shot to the leg to save yourself.

They did mention there are other towns and compounds and he was heading for one. Don't forget the main place with IDB is a cult who leader was "supposedly" bitten and survived. But the rest of it sums up the garbage they are feeding us.

Agreed, Z- nation blows this show away. It is ridiculous, but fun. The only thing that bugged me is if that guys wanted the scientist so bad he would not have sent in such a deadly cast of characters such and those berserker guys with helmets and chain. They would have killed indiscriminately.

The painting the compound red I thought was a tribute to High Plains Drifter. But a total waste of time.

That must have been the end of last season and I missed it. I remember the woman from the Amazon compound pregnant with Murphy's kid catching up to the group. But I did not see the birth.

One thing. (Sorry to get off-topic on Z-nation) do you think 5K (crow boy) was rescued by the crows picking him up? I figured that is why 10K was so surprised when he disappeared and why we saw him surrounded by crows at the end (but no sign of life?!?).

Here are the Sunday Cliff notes -

Madison turning on the Hotel sign has now attracted stragglers looking for refuge. Of course one of them was Travis.

Then most of the show covers the Travis and Son story thread. Remember the farmer shot one of the 3 new guys before anti-social boy killed him. Well long story short Travis wanted to save the guy, the group wanted him out of his misery and the kid turned on dad to make it happen. Kid vicious took off with other two and left Travis who is now at the hotel.

I do not remember seeing any zombies at all this episode and I don't remember them visiting the Idiot Druggy Boy story thread. But it only gets half attention these days. So psycho boy took off with other two heading to San Diego and the hotel is taking on refugees. Oh, and Madison has a talk with her daughter telling her that her dad actually killed himself and did not die in a car accident and that she loves her just as much as Super Nick.

Why are the people at the hotel taking orders from Madison? They did last week also when she declared anyone hurting anyone else gets kicked out.

Exactly. When we have already gotten to the point where we hate the characters and are rooting for the zombies you can't have a character show with no zombies.

We liked Salazar and they killed him. We liked Strand but I'll bet the stab wound goes fatal if he can get out of his contract. Travis is awful and should die. We don't like Madison and her daughter is just dull. Chris would have been good if he was developed as this character from the start but he was the caring kid with the camera the first season and turned into a person who wants to watch people die? Nick we don't just want dead with want torture and death. But he was from day one the center of the show with typical Hollywood love for the cool kid on drugs.

Funny, I could not remember the kids name (Chris) so I just went to google it using "Fear the walking dead characters" as a search term and google did its guess and came up with - "Fear the walking dead characters annoying" and "Fear the walking dead characters unlikeable". So without reading about this show outside of Pinside I guess we are on target with then other viewers.

With this show the walking dead is the show itself. When will it lay down and die.

What else is on? It is Sunday night right before bed time and I am already depressed about a Monday morning rush hour commute to work. I just want to sit, unwind and relax to the idiot box. In one room is the TV and my computer and the other my girlfriend watching murder porn on the ID channel figuring out the best way to dispose of my body.

So I flip on AMC on TV and on the computer scan the news, Pinside forum, CL or maybe to really get mindless play computer solitaire. I like to keep the habit so come October 23rd I'm set to see Negan bash someone's head in and hope that when the tiger guy appears it is not a shark in disguise. Hey, I guess you're right, I'm ready to bitch!

Oh yes. It is even on while I sleep I have to listen to "Wives with Knives" and stuff. Oh, I hate that Joe Kenda Homicide Hunter. The only way the idiot solves a case is when they walk into the precinct door and turn themselves in. And he'll say something stupid like "Now that's a clue".

She will also watch Ghost haunting shows and Ancient Aliens. The only thing we agree on is South Park.

The Alien thing bugs the crap out of me. Some guy will hold up a rock with a hole in it and claim it might be a portal to transport between planets. And if I say what crap that is she'll tell me to stop being negative its just a theory. Then they will show the same rock on some archeology show as a piece of artwork representing fertility. And if I say "looks like an alien transporter to me" she will tell me I'm being stupid and the show is not about aliens. Arrrggghhh.

Sorry to vent. Wong thread. Where is the 5 cent psychiatrist thread?

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Dear Llyod, my coin box area is filled with blood. What is the best way . . . .

That seems to be the consensus. Now it is just a place holder show until the original comes back in a few weeks. I liked Preacher better as a filler.

It is also too late to go back now and try to reveal the story of how it all began. The original show did more with flashbacks and the CDC visit than this show did.

From season 1 this was just your usually Hollywood garbage riding off the coat tails of the original but making the military evil and the drug addict cool. Of course the original was not a product of Hollywood but a comic book turned show. TV writers are not worth their weight in offal.

I bailed and did not want to invest 2 hours last night. But it sounds like I should watch it on rerun.

Great show. Now we see why they dragged out the end show of last season and left it as a cliff hanger. I figured it would be "bash" and move on but they made an entire show of it and it worked.

I like the little things. Did you notice as Negan's men were breaking up at the end one of them was taking a Polaroid picture of one of the bashed in heads? Same as Glen saw on the wall of the sleeping quarters in the satellite dish compound.

And Rick watching in the rear view mirror as a walker feeds on the brain puddle was a nice touch about the way things are.

Of course Rick keeping the axe and the end seems to be foreshadowing that he wants to bury it in Negan at some point.

I didn't like that Maggie had so much energy at the end. She was on death's bed before woods scene and after all that she standing up telling everyone what she wants to do.

Did they drag Daryl off separately so he can put more time into his other show?

Art (thread OP), I know you changed the thread title to include Z nation. But in doing so you removed the "No Comic Book" part of the title. Now it is creeping back in and I am starting to skip posts to prevent spoilage. Any way to get that back in?

But it was perfect. How else are you going to top "look at the flowers Lizzy" for disturbing. Killing Abraham give you shock and starts the pain through sheer brutality. Killing Glen because Daryl broke his rule shows he means business and sticks to his word. Stopping Rick before the chop shows if he gets what he wants you live.

Rick has lost his mind before. Remember at the prison he was seeing Laurie after her death and talking to dead people on a dead telephone. This just broke him. So used to being a leader and the only way he can save anyone is by being a sheep. This has got to be setup to a break down. Remember when the gang attacked them and one was going to rape Carl (Coral) he chewed the guys face. Rick has a history of losing it and this one is going to be big.

Not a bad episode. But you have to wonder if they are foreshadowing too much or setting up a twist when it comes to Dwight.

He starts to feel some remorse but not enough to change. Will the situation with his wife finally make his crack? When it does will he be successful or just get killed . . . It is alright. We all want Daryl to fake it just so he can get close enough to do something (and stop getting crappy food).

Maybe beat on the clutch of his bike?

I remembered him taking the Polaroid of head pounded Glen. But to give him the picture and remind him it was his fault was a nice touch.

And hair. Coral and the bunch look like they have blow-dryers.

Alright. While not a bad episode [but not great for sure] since it is setting up the interactions, it was not worth the extra length of the show.

She saved a gun and it is going to be trouble, we know. Clepto guy blames Rick so they are going to go at it eventually. Coral is still a dick. And Dwight has Daryl's bike so he's going to take a chunk out of him at some point.

The faking Maggie's death was unexpected. What happens if Negan runs into her some day? "Rick, you lied"

I think Daryl would know how to handle a bunch like that better as a leader. Rick has too many moral rules from his cop days and they would not listen for long.

Z-Nation marathon for Thanks Giving. Season 1 and 2 every episode back to back.

Ut-Oh, is TWD jumping the Sharknado? Was this a total throw away episode or is it foreshadowing?

Either way another character who few cares if she lives or dies seems like she will hang around. Maybe the show saves money by having an "all Tara" episode rather than paying high salaries for the people we like. Maybe some of the illiterate writers from Fear TWD have joined the show.

What did we learn? The Saviors are bad people and have done this to other communities. No Sh!t Sherlock. We've seen them do this to Hilltop, The Kingdom and Alexandria. So are they giving the idea of hidden community (this one or their own) for the future of the group? Or was this just a character introduction to bring the girl into the fold in the future? You know, Saviors find Fish Town and the girl escapes.

No, (from the Hilltop story arc with Maggie) he is in the back of the Savior's truck with Jesus (hey, that's funny).

I have not yet see any GOT. Maybe it will make the machine more fun.

Oh, one more thing I forgot about last night's episode that pissed me off. The stupid sand pile on the bridge. The dump trucks are still in the dumped position showing they would not dump the sand even half of the height of the actual pile. But it must have been dumped quick to bury all those zombies. Would have made more sense as a barricade that took a little time to make like the other end. And of course one touch and it frees them all. Well, frees them enough to re-trap them on the inside and not leave an opening for them to drift off the other way. I hate obvious stupid crap.

OP (Art) can you request a moderator ban people from the thread? It clearly states in the title we do not want anything about the comics discussed.

We have been through this before. Someone discusses what was different "oh, he's dead in the comic" and then goes on to die in the show, just a bit later or differently. We asked nothing in the comic be discussed.

Read earlier in this thread. There was a thread with comic discussions started, but everyone likes to come here and ruin it for others.

Actually going back to get a reference I see you are one of the people doing this in the past. Page 13, post #803 is a good place to start. The title back the did say no comic discussion. It has been changed a few times to include Z-nation and then the comic mention put back in. Look, it is real simple. If you want to discuss the comic please do it in another thread.

It makes sense if you have not read the comic and want to watch the show. My vote is no mention of the comic, please go to another thread. If someone comes in late to the thread and truly did not know they should be told and warned. If someone knows this thread does not want comic discussion but they continue to do so they should be banned from posting to the thread.

Different thread. Why is this so hard to understand. This is a show discussion. I turn on the TV on Sunday night and watch the show, then we discuss.

We all don't have the comics sitting on the table. We would not all be on the same page. We picked the version we want to follow and don't want it spoiled. Really not hard.

Here you go. I did a search and it was real easy.

https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/twd-the-walking-dead-show-and-comics-discussionand-fear-twd#post-3082006

It was even started by jonesjb "because" we didn't want the comic discussed here so he knows better. But I guess because people don't discuss much in that thread they have to continue to come here to ruin it for us. It really is rude and frustrating that this continues.

I think TWD and FTWD got lumped together because they don't run at the same time. Everyone was hoping FTWD would be a good filler between seasons and keep the thread active. The OP included Z-Nation since he figured it is zombie related but not enough people watch it to warrant a separate thread.

The Title has been change multiple times. This started as FTWD and TWD was added. Then there was a "No Comic" added because of the same thing. But after the other thread was made and Art (OP) wanted Z-nation included he removed the "no comic" to make room in the title. But then (look back a couple of pages) the comic stuff crept in again so Art changes the title again.

I get you. And I may leave this thread if it continues. The problem is as soon as I see a mention of the comic I try to skip the post. But then during replies or comments down the line you might still pick up what was said anyway. And you don't know if it is a spoiler until after you read it to determine.

Good catch. See how easy it is to make a mistake that can be acceptable and a spoiler. I guess the people who want to discuss the comic outside of the comic thread win. Too bad, I liked it here. Guess anyone who wants no mention of the comics will just have to start another thread with a very specific title and rules on the first post asking that the comic not be mentioned.

Season 2 was on a farm. Seems like they get over run by hordes looking to get out of the city. Even zombies have the dream of moving to the suburbs. Also would have to be an old time farm with mixed crops and keeping their own seeds or it is gone after a year. Like the green houses they have in The Kingdom. Still need gas and parts to keep the tractors running.

I agree the following for TWD is too big to fail quickly. Heck we hated the crap out of Fear TWD but enough suffered through it to keep it alive this long.

Go back 8 months and see the posts the moderators did remove back then.

https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/fear-the-walking-dead-starts-tonight/page/12#post-3065284

Then time slips by and the same players come it and do the same thing because the "comic friendly" thread is dead and they come back here to ruin it.

Overall good show. But once again one of these idiots has Negan's baseball bat in his hand, is standing behind him and does not take the shot. Coral was on top of him walking down the stairs to the "Iron" scene. The kid just went in throwing his life away to get the guy but ends up singing him a song and holding Lucile? BS.

Negan just has hurt too many of his own people to not get wacked by now.

Because Rick is played by a London actor that can't seem to pronounce it right putting on a Southern accent. We think it is funny.

Also he was one of the most hated group members for a few seasons so you want to pick on him.

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Zombieland could translate to a pin in many ways. You could set it up as the amusement park with many toys like the drop ride and clowns. The rules could be the "Rules" for many modes like double tapping ramp shots and cardio loops. Collecting the lit Twinkies shaped inserts.

I don't trust Jesus. Don't forget when push comes to shove he is a savior.

And Beth died

Well FTWD is supposed to be before TWD. So how about they go to Negan's compound to kill him and as they are passing the zombies in the fence on spikes you notice the entire cast of FTWD has been spiked and chained.

That's what hurt. When she was first introduced she was Maggie's stupid little sister ready to slit her wrists to escape the new world. You wrote her off as for dead soon and didn't care. Then she starts caring for Judith and gets drunk for the first time with Daryl. So she grows on you as a young girl growing up in a screwed up world. As Daryl got a soft spot for her so did we. Then they give her a subplot to herself in the hospital to develop her as a toughened up person from when we first met her and then "bam", reality.

That the great part of this show that keeps you coming back. They do develop some people well and you really don't know who gets killed or what they are going to become capable of doing. Glen went from a delivery boy to a man protecting his pregnant wife to mush. Carol goes from a battered wife to losing her daughter to "look at the flowers Lizzy". Coral goes from a dick to a one eyed dick.

That is what we thought Fear The Walking Dead was going to be. Oh boy it was not

Bump - New Episodes start tonight.

For anyone doing the contest the two words are -

Rise
Together

While not a realistic scene, the wire between the cars was a pretty good kill scene. I don't think we saw any walkers up to this point and 50 minutes in a herd.

The way they jump into a circle of walkers, shake them off and do not get bit is a little wild.

But how was that cable attached? If it was to the frame it would be 6" off the ground at the car and dragging most of the middle. And higher on the car and the bumpers or whatever it was attached to would tear off when pulled taught. Never mind while ripping through all of those bodies.

Fight the Rankor I mean Ronald or whoever spike guy was.

So many apocalypses shows have the strange garbage pail kids community with strange societal language and mannerisms. But that is usually a few generations after the apocalypse and nor just a few years.

10 minutes left to the show so I want to make my prediction before scenes from next week. They need the guns from the fish eating women.

Still better then most shows on TV. And no Coral this week!!!!!!

It was worth mentioning twice

So no comments on the Eugene episode? Looks like he turned 180 fast and for real.

I'm not sure how pouring metal on the walkers makes the guts not drop out the bottom. They also don't seem very dangerous if welded to a fence. But meh.

I have a feeling the wife will show up and the gig will be up.

That was his defense mechanism at first. But he really likes those pickles. Even getting a bit of a spine and power trip when getting those medical supplies. The dude has food, video games and bikers telling him they like his brains. He starting to feel safe for the first time.

Eugene did mention the metal acting to protect from head trauma. So this is definitely an intruder defense over camouflage.

Now what about the wives wanting him dead. We keep thinking about who is going to take out Negan, Rick's battle or Dwight's revenge. But don't underestimate a pissed off woman. Never mind 3 wives who want you dead. Now that's dangerous.

We need guns in a world that has been picked clean because we made a deal with the trash people.

Hey, look over there. A 63 gun walking armory. What luck.

I know. I it is just a show and they need to squeeze it all in. But the end result with the girls talking "Do you know where a bunch of guns are?". Is still leading to needing the armory of the fish women. So that makes this episode a filler and the only thing we gained was Michone can't live without Rick.

But since the last two women Rick had a thing for died maybe she needs to sacrifice herself soon

I'm not so sure. This might be the push they needed. It drove Morgan to kill. And the plan was to show them "the get it" and catch them off guard.

Watching the last scene now with Carol.

Yup.

About the melon. Last deliver was 7 crates of food. This time it was 12 melons? That was a weekly drop off? Is that worth the gas to even both picking up?

I did not watch the scenes from next week. Who are we watching next time? Rick, Carol or Neegan? Or is it time for a season cliff-hanger already?