Was anyone else put off by the obvious plot device that having Sasha hide in a casket was? I mean, what was the point of that ridiculous elaborate setup anyway, other than to give her a private place to take the poison pill and die in a slow, dramatic fashion to fill half the episode? L-A-M-E.

I agree with most of your comments and generally feel the show has become too spread out across the characters, in too many different locations, with not enough happening in any one episode most of the time to provide a satisfying watch. I'm also sick of Negan's character already, hope he isn't featured much next season.

My favorite episode this season was when Rick and Michonne were raiding the military amusement park. That was fun to watch and briefly rekindled the old vibe that the show originally had.

I'm at the point that if Negan isn't dead by the end of the next episode... maybe I watch something else. How long can you string it out? It's really not that interesting anymore.

Yeah, and why aren't there any late model cars abandoned anywhere. The last time I saw a car on the show that didn't look like it was 15 years old when the zombie apocolypse hit was back when they drove around in that lame Hyundai for a few seasons...

Yeah that whole bit where she rides in a casket was a ridiculous plot device. Really lazy writing.

I think you nailed it. Jumped that shark right then and there. Stopped being an interesting thought experiment on actually surviving and became a vehicle for senselenss plot twists, etc.

I thought it was an okay episode. They did take too long for Carl to die, and he was waaay too chatty in the end. He really did seem to perk up at one point. Better direction could have fixed that.

I really like that Carl died from some random walker bite in the middle of some relatively mundane task vs. as the pinnacle in a giant plot point (killing Negan or something). That rang true for a change. And I lol'ed when he shot himself, I saw that coming 10-miles away.

The show is a caricature of itself at this point, but still entertaining.

Yeah, but it occurred to me at the start of the episode. Why wouldn't Carl be the one to do it. He took his own mother out after all.

I agree Rick's inability to hit Negan with a friggin' machine gun and then pistol, and to sooo poorly manage his ammo was ridiculous. I guess he's supposed to be in some kind of insane rage or something and not thinking but gimme a break. Should have brought Daryl he would have nailed him with the crossbow no problem.

I half expected them both to end up trapped in a pit together and have to make friendly to survive or something.

Still watching though.

You mean Eugene? Ha, I couldn't agree more!

TWD and FTWD have both moved away from the aspect that I actually enjoy the most, seeing how the group survives against the externalities (walkers, starvation, etc.) and become glorified soap operas that are way too character driven now. There's zero attention paid to how the group feeds itself, walkers are only a threat when the plot demands that they be, etc. Frankly, with all the politics and personal BS going on between the groups and characters I'd rather head out on my own for some me time.

Reminds me of how the original few seasons of Survivor where hunger, cold, etc. were critical elements of the show. Now it's just Big Brother on a tropical island.

I'm sure it's way cheaper to shoot a zombie show where 90% of the shots are close-ups of people standing around emoting vs. actual action in the world. Sucks though.

Yeah, FTWD was certainly better than TWD has been in that regard.

I feel like TWD has milked their characters for too long without earning it recently. I'm kind of at the point where I'd be happy to see them all die in a hail of self-inflicted bullets, ricocheting off the broad side of the barn wall that they couldn't hit if Negan was standing in front of it.

I feel like I'm now rooting for the crazy garbage pile lady...

Yeah so far this season of FTWD has been great. Loved the old waterpark stuff, so fun.

Part of it is balancing compelling new characters with those you already know, and keeping the cast size down a bit. Love the struggle to survive aspect which TWD alludes to but spends more time on interpersonal politics than anything else. A little worried that we're headed for another season of giant gun battles though after the last episode where they open the cache and are out for revenge...

...I hope it doesn't end well!

Except each 2000 person community would war with one next to them. It's in our nature.

Well this season has been ups and downs in turns of quality. This week's show was pretty brutally directed IMHO. All the cheesy slow motion couldn't save the crappy writing. It was so bad it was funny.

The camera lady is already a farce. Oh god, let's bring out the camera again...

Anyway, they went for something and missed. It happens. I look forward to the cowboy recovering and he and the blonde lady living happily ever after.

Was thinking the same thing. I'm still watching. I'd say the first 1/2 of the latest Fear season was pretty good. The second half slowed down to the usual crawl with characters all inexplicably deciding to bugger off on their own for no particular reason, etc. etc.

...and the ridiculous crazy lady with the walker on a stick. That whole thing was lame as hell. As if you could sneak up on people on a wide open road like that. Idiotic.

Ended with a whimper like they're some kind of super heroes or something. FAIL.

It's a tease. They'll drag it out forever and in the last 30 seconds of the last episode he'll suddenly decide that he doesn't want to leave the show after all, completely out of character. I'm still friggin' pissed about them robbing me of the satisfaction of FINALLY seeing Rick blows Negan's fat head off last season.

Because everyone knows you need dynamite to build a bridge... And it's always a good idea to just leave it out in the elements to get rained on and such.

This is definately the episode where the series jumped the shark.

Greg Nicotero is great effects guy and a shitty director.
Totally zero emotional investment in Rick's "demise". Cheezy slow motion group reaction shots, so bad.

Maggie being completely and instantly swayed/played by Negan's cry baby act was just brutal. Just f**ng bash his head in nice and slow already, puleeeeze. How incredibly satisfying would that have been for the viewers. But no. Gotta milk that dried up cow some more.

I could have written a better farewell for Rick in my sleep. How about Rick comes back and tries to stop Maggie from killing Negan and Maggie puts him down in the struggle, and then totally bashes Negan's head to small pieces in a grief driven rage upon realizing what she's done. Beautifully ironic that Rick dies trying to save Negan, etc. etc.

Must be time to start watching something else I guess...

...nobody is going to mention the utter and complete ridiculousness of the zombie hoard "talking" as it passed by Eugene and co.?

If the zombies start talking I'm friggin' out. They are turning this into a (bad) parody of what it started out as.

You're disappointed that they got rid of a bunch of charcters you didn't like? I was pretty happy about it myself.

Though it was disturbing how quickly they all seemed to get over the mass killings of long time characters...

Good epidsode I would say.

Well in order to bring groups together you have to compromise, something that requires, you know, consideration of others positions and stuff.

I agree it's nice to have a new villian in the show. Though seems like they can just avoid each other's territory and keep the peace? Yeah... that won't happen.

Snow is a great insulator. Totally makes sense.

I actually have to say that on the whole i enjoyed this season. Glad to see they are losing some older characters and moving forward. It's just a stupid zombie show afterall.

I agree. Not killing Negan and giving the fans the satisfaction that would have brought was the lamest decision they ever made. They were simply thinking hey, with Rick stepping out we need a charismatic lead so Negan it is!

Still watching to the end though...