Where is Heath? I mean no one is even mentioning him.

Apologies in advance if this is considered a vague comic spoiler, I only share to alleviate concerns, but please mark for moderation if it is out of line. If the show follows the comic, don't worry about it becoming a derivitave... fight against the big baddie on rinse and repeat. The show should go in unexpected ways, and zombies shouldn't fade into background noise. The source material has some good narrative.

I think they are taking a slow burn approach, similar to breaking bad, where they are laying the groundwork for plot points to pay off later.

What roll do you guys thing Dwight will have in the upcoming war?

I think he will get killed doing something to save Daryl or someone to try and apologize.

As despised as he is with many TWD watchers, Carl does deserve some credit for getting the shooting started when Sasha stuns the Saviors as a zombie.

Good point. He spun around and capped at least 3 trash people getting everyone into the fray.

Here is the thing about the tiger. It has never been aggressive. The king did the proverbial thorn from the foot so it likes him. That does not mean it attacks on command. But I have to admit it is an effective tool. Scare the crap out of everyone around.

I will continue to watch but it has....

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A show with a great premise and stellar pedigree mired in subpar story writing and too frequently poor acting.

King Ezekiel wins the piss poor acting award this week. "Today, We finish this!" Then proceedes to half heartedly trot down the street handgun in one hand and sword in the other. As my 13yo asked, "is it me or was that super cringy?"

Of course the tiger knows who is good and who is bad too. Would have made more sense if they showed someone directing the tiger who to attack.

I must say I am pretty happy with Sasha gone. Wanted her gone a long time ago. Who will miss that "conflicted" face she always makes?

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A friend of mine asked if the TWD finale was any good. I told him about 10 minutes of it was. I love this show but this was the most disappointing season ever. The only real surprise for me in the whole finale was Sasha coming out of the casket as a walker. The rest of it was so predictable. I'll be back for next season, but only hoping it gets better than this.

Really glad the trash people turned on them. Hated the "Mad Max beyond thunderdome" one word dialog. Doesn't fit the shows timeline. These people were alive before the zombie transform. You don't just forget how to talk in a few years.

Nice...on my watch list. Looking forward to a fresh Start Trek series. Also going to try to catch American Gods, that book was great.

Uggghhhh... Can't believe they're going to drag this shit out another season.

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At least!!

You called it several weeks prior!

Seriously? There was almost zero chance that Negan was going to be killed in the season finale. There was not enough buildup for that to happen, and I always assumed that they would take a similar story arc that they used with The Governor, who also lasted a full season and half.

Negan will be dead by the middle of next season.

I was *hoping* he would be dead by the end of this season because I just can't stand his character. It's really bad. Annoying. And just not believable. The way he talks is beyond stupid. The Governor was 10 times better. We don't know shit about Negan and his background, or what made him the way he is. Complete opposite of The Governor, who was a much more complex and interesting character.

This whole season was a big letdown. Every episode will filler/setup. I *did* like how they dealt with Sasha's death in the finale....but good grief, when Ezekiel showed up with the Tiger and was yelling some nonsense was about the corniest thing I've seen yet. It was laughable.

I thought last season was really good. This year? It went downhill after the first episode, and it went downhill fast, and never really recovered.

Nope. He'll be around for a few more seasons. Bank on that.

no way, they can't sustain his overly clever dialogue for that long. He's gone next season.

The writing this season was a bit predictable but there is a flow to every show & while this season may have been disappointing for you, this season sets up next to be awesome.

I'll admit that the character writing for Rick this season was fairly weak but this season was just as good as last season. Visiting other communities = interesting. Tara's visit to seaside = interesting. Trash people with their thorny walk = interesting. Betrayal = interesting. Tiger attacks = tiger, tiger, tiger. This season wasn't bad at all but it's highest point was the first episode.

Are you serious? The way Negan talks is so freaking awesome. It's definitely the best part of his character second only to the way he leans when talking. The Governor was 10 times better but the Governor episode also feature annoying Andrea & she was the worst. We didn't learn anything about the Governor's past until like the last 2 episodes of the prison saga. Negan lives by a set of rules and if you do too then there is harmony. The Governor just wanted power & killed people for supplies. Negan is shall I say in his own words a Badass.

we'll agree to disagree on that

Agree with everything you stated, but he is the villain, & the show needs a villain. We all want to see him die but then what? Who takes his place? Unfortunately I think he will be around for awhile.

That's cheating Rob. I meant the blind ending when she rushed into the building to end the episode. I will say I didn't expect her to die at all this season so you're half right. Thank god I was wrong.

Negan doesn't bother me. He's over the top bad guy but at least the acting is solid. The range from serious to manic to playful is well acted. Over the top, unbelievable character yes. Ezekiel and the hill top mayor remain my can't stand characters. Abysmal acting no matter how you look at it.

I agree that this season was a total disappointment. The story lines are moving too slowly. Each scene is taking too long, starting with the set-up shot of the grass, the trees, the fence, and then the characters, then their faces, then finally a bit of dialog - which itself has been so unsatisfying. Multiply that sequence by about 13-14 and you have a typical episode this year. Somewhere in the sequence you'll have something actually happen that moves one of the chess pieces somewhere from where they were sitting.

On the other hand, this season of TWD has made me really appreciate the BEST show on TV... GOT. Compare the writing and shot sequence in that show. It's fast paced, fast dialog, intelligent writing. I find myself trying to keep up with what the characters are doing or saying and wondering what is really going on outside of the scene and dialog! They nail the pace on each and every episode. Chess pieces are always being moved (or at least being contemplated about where to be moved).

Not a huge fan of either of the pins (played both numerous times).

The most disappointing thing to me is that Tara somehow made it through to another season.

they should shake it up and have them lose to Negan...everyone slaughtered. Start fresh in Canada focusing on a new group.

lol

That would be suicide for the show.

The thing I don't like about the show is I think the story is being impeded by the way the actors are paid by the budget. I understand they are paid for episodes they appear in, so a cost effective way to manage the ensemble cast is to focus just on a few characters per episode, which slows things down.

If I'm watching an episode with Darryl, Morgan, Ezekiel and Carrol in the beginning, I pretty much know unless it is an end of season episode, I'm not getting any story progression with Rick that episode.

Was anyone else put off by the obvious plot device that having Sasha hide in a casket was? I mean, what was the point of that ridiculous elaborate setup anyway, other than to give her a private place to take the poison pill and die in a slow, dramatic fashion to fill half the episode? L-A-M-E.

I agree with most of your comments and generally feel the show has become too spread out across the characters, in too many different locations, with not enough happening in any one episode most of the time to provide a satisfying watch. I'm also sick of Negan's character already, hope he isn't featured much next season.

My favorite episode this season was when Rick and Michonne were raiding the military amusement park. That was fun to watch and briefly rekindled the old vibe that the show originally had.

I thought it was the best part of the entire episode.

Agreed. I was sick of Negan after 3 episodes.

I couldn't agree more with this! That episode did give more of a feel of the first season or two.

Yeah, But it did start that shitstorm at the end of the episode.

I am Team Negan. I was Team Negan before I even knew there was a Team Negan. LOL.

But honestly, I love the character. This season wasn't the most fun to watch but it passed the time.

I just want to see them doing something other than searching for shit to give Negan. The show is getting stale.

I thought the Sasha stuff was good, but I could've done with a lot less of the flashback portion. That seemed like a major time waster.

I am sure the serving Negan aspect is very far from their minds after chasing Negan away from Alexandria. Now they will prepare for a war if they want to survive. I suspect they will need to recruit the women from the ocean to have reinforcements.

Why wouldn't Negan immediately load up the trucks and go wipe them out? That doesn't make sense, even for TWD.

Yeah, they looked way too casual after that little fight especially knowing that the garbage people are not on their side so their numbers are much smaller than originally planned.

Um because Rick's team has a F8cking tiger???? Just kidding. They still might roll up to Alexandria. The story timeline is a bit skewed as there is no real sense of time. The show could come back 1 month, 1 week, 1 hour from that scene.

No matter what you'll always be able to nitpick the show. It's a man drama like wrestling set in a zombie apocalypse.

Negan's crew probably didn't even eat lunch before this encounter, as they knew they had the Garbage Pail Kids on their side, and I'm sure Negan and company figured this would be over quickly then they'd be back at the compound in time for a decent meal. Unfortunately for Negan, things didn't go as smoothly as planned, so I'm sure he and the Saviors were like "We can't battle on empty stomachs", so they're heading back to the compound to eat and plan. That makes sense anyways. Nobody likes to fight when your stomachs are all growly and stuff.

Of bigger concern is the C.G. tiger. Negan was obviously surprised by that C.G. tiger showing up, and the thing even killed a couple of Saviors, which must be a big concern to Negan. I mean, how do you kill a C.G. tiger? Do you use a C.G. gun? I'm sure that this stuff will be discussed in depth when they get back to the compound.

Neegan flipping the extended bird out the truck window while leaving Alexandria was pretty funny.

Time to bring this thread back from the dead. Tonight FTWD is back. I realize I did not watch the last two episodes from last season. Wish I did, I went all these months without knowing they killed off Chris. That alone gets me to give it a little chance.

I am only going to be able to watch the first half, but I'll catch up next week.

I'm looking forward to getting back into it tonight.
Definitely not the best thing on tv but I'm enjoying it a little bit so far.

I have zero confidence in FTWD writers. They consistently make poor decisions regarding characters.

I did not like the story decisions.

The episodes overall were good. But after watching Talking Dead, My confidence in the writers is not strong.

Marcus

"Sorry about the eyeball..."

"No problem, sorry about the whole rapey vibes and plot to kill your husband thing!"

Not a bad episode, glad to see Travis go!!

I didn't think it was a bad episode at all. Hopefully, they move everything back to the US....I'm so tired of reading all the subtitles....lol

Spoon to the eyeball...made my eye twitch a bit....