I think that could be correct. He's been built up as such a wimp that it just feels like he is in need of redemption. While typing my previous comment I started to get into the discussion that it could have been more meaningful had it been someone other then Eugene. Like I said...it's a very logical choice to side with the seemingly more powerful group that is ruling through fear.

I enjoyed last night's episode. The Maggie/Hilltop arc seems to be coming to a head, I liked the Maggie/Daryl scene, and the final scene with Sasha was pretty cool. I'm sure we'll get another build-up episode next week, and then what I would imagine is going to be a pretty action-packed finale.

That would make his character worth while, otherwise what a pussy, i think hes playing the part that 'hes negan' because if he runs and gets caught he knows he will get his head smashed or get the iron plus he gets free pickles, but he should be afraid of the girls stabbing him in the back or someone else selling him out so they wouldnt get into trouble like wanna be daryl did to the doctor.

I'm picturing Eugene explaining to Negan, just before Negan dies, using unnecessarily complex words, how he took him down and why--because Negan killed his friend Abraham. That would be a great scene. Won't happen though, we have to have superhero Rick involved in every key event in the new world order.

Fingers crossed Sasha dies but we know she won't. Last nights episode = zzzzzzzz

The mayor of hilltop continues to poorly act his way from scene to scene. The last scene with him and Jesus was painful.

The handle bar mustache savior (Trevor from gta V) is great though. He shines in every scene he's in.

Would be great if he poisoned them all.

I believe history has shown the episode right before the finale is the most action packed, whereas the season finale itself is more of a recap and aftermath.

No way. He's absolutely a coward.

I would like to see the Hilltop leader poison the "My Name is Earl" looking guy's tequila.

So if they kill Negan, what will it accomplish since everyone is Negan?

Eugene takes over, and still doesn't get laid.

I think he's happy eating pickles and playing video games, plus I believe he would rather watch someone else get laid, like when rosita and abraham were getting it on.

He still has the poison pills which are probably hidden in his grumblygook stuffed animal.

Abraham was his friend.

With only two episodes left the next episode should be eventful. From the previews, it appeared the Alexandrian's will likely attack the fish eating women. It would be ideal if they end up uniting with the women rather than killing them and it would make sense because the fish eaters should want revenge against Negan for killing all of their men and boy children. It also would not set a very good tone if the Alexandrian's killed a bunch of children along with the women.

On to the big finish.

I would almost think that there isn't one, thinking they will make you wait till next season. Hate to say it but i think after one more week im done with this show for good, looking forward to game of thrones.

Negan has been a bust as far as I'm concerned. Unless they are keeping him around and developing more next season, he's lame. His dialogue is lame, they haven't done much to draw you in to the Saviors whole community either. The show is good, not great this season. It's still way better than most shows and I'll keep watching but that's not saying a lot.

The "build-up" lacks tension as well. Rick and crew had all their stuff stolen by Negan, they steal stuff from someone else in hopes they can steal stuff and end Negan...meh. The Garbage Pail kids are 100% going to double or triple cross them as well.

It's Monday, time for more complanin'!

Blehhhh, WHATeverrrrrr...I like the show and said it was better than most, it's fun to come up with constructive ideas to make it better. No rule says we have to kiss ass on 100%.

Start a TWD, "no constructive critique" thread

With comic spoilers allowed !

I am torn. I don't know if Negan will survive and if he does not who will take him out. The garbage pail kids were not developed enough to have much to say about. But they do feel like a setup for next seasons problem. I don't see how the show can go anywhere if everyone teams up, takes out the bad guy and all live happily together.

Actually you are this biggest regular complainer in the thread. You complain when people have critiques and you complain we ejected discussions about the comic book. The rest of us watch the show pretty faithfully because we still think [even with flaws] it is one of the better shows to follow.

But I guess you said it best with you insightful contribution last week -

And 2 weeks ago

And 34 days ago

Still looking for the last time you contributed to actual conversation. These are actually your last 4 posts here.

And look what was posted while I was typing

"Coral" walkers.

I have to admit the sea shore walkers with barnacles were pretty cool. At least the make-up guys are having fun.

I just wish he would keep his brand new fonzie jacket on, his arms are so skinny he doesn't look like he could even swing that bat hard enough to hurt anyone. I do like how he fucks with everyone but as the villan he is supposed to be most of his henchmen in the background look like they could ring his neck in a second.

First thing I thought of was Davey Jones crew from pirates of the Caribbean. Meh!

I love the show but it feels like it's on vapors. I would take 2 seasons back to back of the budget saving Hershel's farm over this garbage. They got my hopes up that the walker was going to get the hilltop mayor. Nope, he lives to poorly act in another episode. Woohoo.

It's close enough that if you are not happy with the direction of the show, I don't think you will like the direction of the comic. Talking about the show we're simply at a point where the group has learned to deal with most zombie threats. If they hadn't they would already be dead. What you are seeing is how multiple groups have adapted to this world. My advise if that if you truly do not like the show, stop watching.

I think there is more to getting to a position Negan is in other than doing curls and bench presses all day.

Yeah, it's pretty close. I don't think it's a spoiler to say that some aspects of the show are identical to the comic, while others go in a completely different direction. That's why I enjoy both. I'm up-to-date on the comic, so I get a kick out of seeing what stays the same and what gets changed on the show.

Eugene's style of speech is a true gem. It continues to crack me up week after week. That and the old lady at the fish camp is a beyotch....

full disclosure, it is not hypoallergenic

I can't mother ducking believe they did this. It's a giant fuck you to everyone who stuck with this shitfest all year to watch Neegan get his throat cut. The garbage pail kids turning on Ricks people was a surprise but I can't believe they ended the damn show without putting an end to Neegan. I watched this boring ass show every episode waiting for them to finally take him out and they give me the big middle finger. I'm done.

Great episode, really enjoyed it. Great to see the tiger get into the Melee!

I can't believe the shit I just witnessed.

I'm gonna watch tonight's Homeland now to hopefully make me feel better.

Was really pissed at this final. Looks like they are going to run another season of the saviors. However could be a really good one.

Easy call. Bummer they didn't end Negan--he sucks, but my other prediction still has a shot:

I think they're trying to stretch this out to 20+ seasons.

I remember when this show was good.

Now it's just a soap opera with occasional zombies.

Glad that shit is over, pretty sure im done with this show, was really hoping for some kind of good ending, the fake tiger was the only good thing about the episode. Well see you guys in another thred.

Hey. At least the pinball is still good.

The show turned to shit. Might as well quit.

I enjoyed the coffin multiball.

To those who are "done" with this show: see you in October!

I liked it overall. I think having the season's bad guy get killed at the end of every season would be too predictable. Now they have the entire Savior group ready to go and if they don't act fast they will be weaker when they return to their three communities.

Yes, the garbage pail kids doing a backstab was predictable. I'm not sure why they laid down their guns before leaving. Also, all of that close quarter fighting should have resulted in a few more major character deaths. Will see how that relationship develops.

Morgan shoving his quarter-staff brain deep into someone's face? Nice.

At first I was getting sick of the Sasha flashes to Abraham. I was thinking it was too much of a waste of time. But that is because we keep seeing the show as weekly entertainment. When you really think about the fact that it is someone laying down their life for their friends it really is a big deal.

So the only real complaint I have is that they said Fear-TWD is returning. Now that will make you appreciate this show.

Rick keeps saying he is going to kill Neegan. Maybe Eugene will have a hand in it.

Why couldn't the tiger have waiting two more minutes before he started eating the Saviors. Neegan was just about to bash Carl's head in.

Rick looked pretty spry for someone who got shot in the gut close range and then pushed off a tower. I figured he would share a hospital bed with Michonne.

You are probably right. Kind of like all the people, myself included, that got butthurt over something on RGP or Pinside and made a public announcement that they were leaving. They didn't stay gone for long. This show needs more action and a purpose. They are just trying to live like everything is normal and there is no more normal. They need to have some sort of goal whether it is getting to a location where there are no walkers of somewhere to find a cure or something. The show is getting stale. I haven't read the comics so I don't know what is supposed to happen.

Yeah, it almost feels like no matter what the writers did with that storyline they would have angered some of the viewing audience. Kill him off..."it's too predictable" don't kill him off..."it's unsatisfying". I didn't think that it was an overly satisfying episode, but honestly either enjoy the show for what it is or stop watching. It's not a race to the end. This watch, bitch, watch, bitch discussion is dull.

PS: Perhaps, I need to heed my own advise and stop visiting this thread.

Creating a "normal" life is the purpose. Our survivors are in an area where there are communities, commerce (to some extent), etc. The walkers are not really a threat. At this point in the show, the one thing preventing a fairly normal life are The Saviors. The current goal is to eliminate The Saviors.