Anyone know what the various letters stand for on some people's shirts? They gave Daryl an 'A' and the guys who add walkers to the fence and take off their head canisters wore 'F'

It seems to be some sort of underling grading system, or maybe newbies, kind of like pledges.

It's Dwight's lunch spot

I couldn't get this stupid song out of my head until I got in my car & drove to work with something else on.

Is it just me or does Negan look like Freddy Mercury?

I tell ya what ... for people stuck in a zombie apocalypse, the cast of TWD sure have nice teeth.

rd

And hair. Coral and the bunch look like they have blow-dryers.

Lucky for them that Zombies aren't hungry for toothpaste or hair products.

rd

Alright. While not a bad episode [but not great for sure] since it is setting up the interactions, it was not worth the extra length of the show.

She saved a gun and it is going to be trouble, we know. Clepto guy blames Rick so they are going to go at it eventually. Coral is still a dick. And Dwight has Daryl's bike so he's going to take a chunk out of him at some point.

The faking Maggie's death was unexpected. What happens if Negan runs into her some day? "Rick, you lied"

Best part was Negan telling Rick he just slipped his dick down his throat and he got thanked for it. I'm growing tired of the show and wished it centered around Negan since I'm only enjoying when he is on.

Im getting tired of it too ... but because of Negan. His character seems contrived and overdone (yes, I know it's a show about zombies...) His dialogue is reaaally tiresome.

His "concept" is flawed. How could you create an empire with a baseball bat when everyone else has guns? Baseball bat has a 4 foot range. A guns range is slightly more than 4 foot. Someone would have shot him in the face by now. And he must get really hot wearing the Fonz' leather jacket out in the sun like that.

When Negans bunch showed up at Ricks place last night, they were all standing in a tight bunch in a bottleneck. They should have all been shot in <60 seconds. Problem solved.

But then they'd need to come up with another villain to fill up the series.

rd

Didn't really care for the episode, I am getting tired of the character that plays Negan I liked at first when he's bashing someone's head in, but after watching him on tv for a couple weeks his physical presence doesn't scare me. I wish Rick would of smacked him in the head with his bat and told the rest of his crew he was the boss now.

Exxxxxxxactly!

rd

Even better, I was a huge fan of the show but its loosing me fast.

I think Daryl would know how to handle a bunch like that better as a leader. Rick has too many moral rules from his cop days and they would not listen for long.

Wow. Complete opposite for me!

I was thinking very early on into the episode that Negan is getting old REAL fast. He talks the exact same way, with the same cadence, all the time. You can pretty much guess what he's going to say before he says it. He's already a caricature of himself. Not good. I don't even fear him anymore. He's actually turning into one of the weaker main "bad guys" they've had to deal with in terms of believability. The Governor was 20 times more interesting than Negan so far.

And this episode just got off to a really bad start for me when you see Negan arrive at the gate, with his silhouette showing on the fence holding Lucille. Rosita (and the other guy) were there in the car....WITH GUNS. Why not shoot Negan dead right then and there? Yeah, they still have Darrell, but so what? With Negan dead, I don't know that his followers would necessarily kill Darrell as it would just lead to more of them dying as well.

I am usually capable of suspending a lot of disbelief for this show but for some reason I couldn't get past that one.

I agree with all of this...but more importantly, glad to see that you survived the earthquakes RD!

To each their own. I don't analyze or knit pick every aspect of the show and just enjoy it for the entertainment. There are so many far fetched things on the show I don't watch thinking to myself could this really happen. I'm a JDM fan so maybe I'm biased since he plays Negan but I'm just tired of the Alexandria crew and welcome any new characters regardless how much disbelief there might be.

I'm liking the season so far; but there is going to be a lot of character and story developing. They're at a point where the TWD world is growing vastly more than in the past; so with that, there's got to be a lot of development.

I like the Negan character. I do agree the Governor was much more evil, but Negan has a bigger agenda - like becoming a ruler of many provinces where they provide for him and his land so he can grow even bigger.

There's also a lot untold still and even Negan doesnt know everything about the people he's pillaging from...or he'd have a tiger now

These last couple episodes are building up to some major drama and suspense. I like it so far...as long as the delivery is as good as last season

EDIT: And im more interested in seeing Dwight getting maliciously killed than Negan.

How long are we going to have to watch Rick and his people cower down to Negan? They could have killed him multiple times last night but they all just stood there with their dicks in their hands. Shit, they could have killed him at the gate. Coral could have put a bullet in him. Rick could have beaten him with his own bat. Its getting hard to watch for me. If it wasn't something my son and I watched together I probably wouldn't watch it anymore.

Same here. My son likes to watch it with me, so I'll suffer through watching TWD jumping the shark. At least Fonzie's jacket is here, so I'm feeling right at home with that analogy.

Negan is Freddy Mercury.

I won't post any comic spoilers here.

I think that Rick and Aaron stored guns in the graves of Maggie, Glenn and Abraham.

Same here, and like I said, I am normally very willing to suspend my disbelief for this show. You have to. But when it gets to the point where it is so obvious, and not even consistent with what we've been taught about the characters, it's hard not to be disappointed. That's what happened in this episode.

As stated by others:

I'm a huge fan of the comics and I still watch the show but it jumped the shark for me awhile ago now.
I find myself laughing at most episodes these days, it doesn't have the same impact/ appeal for me that it used to but it is still an enjoyable way to kill an hour.

Im also having a hard time Rick would be in complete puss mode now....especially after losing the prison. Rick just tells Michone.....this is our way of life now. Really? I just can't see Rick saying that.

I bet you're right, although perhaps just the Maggie grave (since it's empty). That makes a lot of sense.

It would also give some semblance of retribution from beyond the grave.

Where's Sasha? She could hit a fly at 100 yards. Easily take out Negan.

Ummm...

They didn't kill Negan and his crew because they're vastly outnumbered by them, outgunned, they have one of their friends as a prisoner, and so far Negan's crew has done nothing to show that they wouldn't avenge his death or kill every single person in Alexandria "just because." His crew all stood there with their guns and watched as Negan bashed in the skulls of two people, and didn't seem to care much.

And The Governor is more evil than Negan?

Are you guys watching the same show as me?

We must not be

Speaking for myself, it isn't a matter of whether The Governor "is more evil than Negan", it's a matter of him (The Governor) being a much better written and developed (and believable) character. His followers had reason/logic to follow him, even if misguided. I don't see that same reason/logic for Negan's followers.

I actually agree with you on both points, though I do think Negan will get more nuanced as the story progresses.

They weren't last night. Rick had a whole truck load of guns (key word ... HAD) at his disposal, there were 20 people standing at the gate in a bunch. All his main guys too. At a quick guess, Rick had 20 people in the church at his meeting.

Opportunity squandered.

Could have been the shortest series ever.

rd

The Zombies were very much a threat just last season. Remember Rick and company trying to protect Alexandria from the largest herd of walkers we've ever seen on the show?

The human element is always going to be the driving force of the story, but I do agree that the walkers should not be forgotten as a major threat by the writers, and so far this season, they have been. But the season is young.

cut the head off the snake and every guy that has doubts in his crew would flee.

Also, if they made a move Darryl would open a can of wuppass and that dude Jesus would pop out of the bushes...game over man. Game over.

What makes you think that? I think part of the reason they didn't attack was the whole "We are all Negan" thing. Keep in mind, Rick already though he killed Negan in the compound when he shot The Savior that said, "I am Negan, shithead". That didn't work out very well. The Saviors have demonstrated that they have adopted a collective mindset of Negan, making him more then just an individual. As a previous poster stated, there is no reason to think that killing "Negan" wouldn't result in mass casualties in Alexandria.

One way to find out!!!

They've hinted at the weakness of the individual cult members with that sandwich making ironed face Dwight already...foreshadowing...seems obvious that will eventually be the way Negan and his crew fall.

Wow, not a single post about last weeks episode?

Can't say I'm surprised. The show continues it's downward spiral this season. Ugh.

And it's showing up in the ratings:

https://www.yahoo.com/tv/walking-dead-ratings-fall-to-lowest-in-years-190236582.html

This is same way they always run the seasons....cliff hangar "answer", then split up everyone and have an episode on each micro-group(people hate the episodes on their disliked characters), then the "boss battle", then cliff hangar. Wrap. Only the odd season here or there varies and has more of a whirlwind pace.

I'm having some trouble believing that the Negan experience would crush so many battle-hardened zombie warriors. I think I'd sacrifice myself with a grenade just to take him and as many of his followers out as possible. Or, send out teams to find another place to move several hundred miles outside of his turf and get out of dodge before he came back again. That wouldn't be any worse than taking his abuse and giving him all of the community's resources. I suspect a lot of the disappointed fans are asking themselves similar questions right now. Heck, I don't even like Rick right now, he's become such a wuss.

I think that Rick is playing along to lull Negan into a sense of trust so he can take him off guard.

Yeah, Rick hasn't given up.

Z-Nation marathon for Thanks Giving. Season 1 and 2 every episode back to back.