FTWD S2/Ep08, "Nick is a Friggin Idiot"

also, why would that nice, clean lady and her kid hug and kiss him at the beginning? He is covered in guts.

I liked the general arc of the episode, but everyone has already mentioned everything stupid about it.

"Yeah, I'm just going to set my extra bullets down on the ground in front of this zombie horde while I reload. Whoops, I was too slow. Guess I'll just let them eat me. Argh!"

C'mon writers!

no, no...he was "spooked" because zombie Nick was giving him the stink eye!

Exactly. The whole episode was full of dumb shit like that.

Another example:

Really boring, bad episode.

Yea, im really trying to force myself to like this show...but its not working out well.

The 'Night of' on the other hand, has been great!

Tonight's episode was much better than last week.

Still not an awesome episode, but it was definitely an improvement.

Still wish Daniel was part of the cast.

Marcus

I really wish we'd find out something about the nature of the virus and how it instantly spread worldwide. It's just TWD 2 now.

Besides smearing an ounce of blood on themselves to go unnoticed by zombies, this was actually a good episode.

right. In TWD they needed actual guts on them.

Still, why did they do this show? It's TWD 2 or TWD West...what is the "different" take we are getting? I'll watch because there's nothing else on..but...

How lame are the people who film the show to not realize this? Blatantly obvious, all 3 of us watching tonight said the same thing.

I was thinking to myself one real problem with the first two episodes was a complete lack of suspense/drama...then it started raining zombies. lol

Better than last weeks episode for sure.

Agreed, it's definitely been a missed opportunity for sure.

I am curious how they will deal with the character who apparently got bit and didn't turn though. He could be key to a cure.

FTWD needs to die a slow painful death.....the writing and storylines have been horrible. The episodes are slow, boring, and lacking suspense. The way they can splash a little bit of blood on them and walk and talk around the walkers is nothing like TWD....the show is just ridiculous.....it's as if these writers/directors never watched TWD. There are rules/behaviors about the walkers we have learned from TWD and this show ignores them. Big opportunity missed to make this show as good or even better than TWD.

And if FTWD is going to reveal how the virus started and spread it is all going to have to be done in flashback at this point......so this has basically become walking dead 2.0

They better cancel it before it ruins TWD......but it may be too late

I think its the opposite.....TWD is the only thing saving this show. I agree with everyone else though.....last night's episode was good.

Two story lines, both suck.

Story line 1: Idiot druggie boy (IDB) -

Yes, they exit the bus and are pretty much ignored by the zombies. A little blood and even the zombie they took the blood from does not attack them. In the original TWD season 1 they covered themselves in guts but a little rain and they were visible to the zombies by sent alone. Also when you attack a zombie or are even recognized by one it usually sets off a chain reaction.

Then when idiot druggie boy is about to get his hand chopped off he uses his IDB powers to double the amount of supplies the killers were giving them. WTF. They would have just killed them and taken everything without thinking twice.

Ending with IDB singing along with a cult like choir.

Story line 2: The lucky ones -

Why so lucky? The first place these guys go to they think the lobby looks cleaned out. So they split so half can go upstairs.

Down stairs a well stocked bar with clean glasses allow our tough zombie battling heroes to go completely of guard. Where we learn important details like Madison originally coming from Alabama.

Upstairs where hot showers and honor bars flow like a cornucopia. And Idiot Boy's Idiot Sister (IBIS) learns that people can give up and kill themselves. I know I never heard about suicide until I was in my 20s.

Ending with a rain of zombies to cliff hanger for next week's travesty. Why did the zombies after all this time suddenly decide to walk off 10 story balconies? Was it the off-tune piano playing calling them like pie-eyed pipers? I'm sure a lobby-bar piano can be heard around the entire hotel. That would not bother people during a normal guest season.

another "OK" episode.

same writing formula as TWD, split up group, crazy stuff ensues, only difference I think is that the characters aren't as likable. ??

I'm actually about ready for both shows to end. It's been a good run, but enough is enough. Long time fan since season 1 of TWD when I watched the first episode back in 2010.

FTWD I basically watch it because I feel like a dedicated fan of TWD. But the reality is it has never lived up to TWD. Further more I would have loved more of the show focusing on right when the apocalypse was starting to take place. The apocalypse story line was short lived and now we are dealing with just another TWD 2.0 as others have mentioned.

As for TWD. I'm ready for Rick to wake up from his coma and have his wife Lori at his side with Carl. Daryl walking in to mop the floor, Michonne checking his vitals, and Dr. Dale stating how Rick has a lot of physical therapy ahead of him, but that he should be lucky the bullet didn't hit any vital organs. ....it was all a bad dream Auntie Em.

The Walking Dead has become played out to me and now after seeing the latest trailer. It to me looks freaking DUMB. Really a guy is referred to as "The King" and he has a pet Tiger. Which looks so fake and CGI that it could have been in the new Tarzan movie. The show has went so far off the deep end from what could have seemed like a reality to completely unrealistic that I'm just about done with it.

Yes, I watched a bunch of Z-nation the other day. At least they admit they are off the wall.

I love it. I think Suzanne Pleshette should be in the hospital bed next to him. (Bob Newhart / Newhart reference)

Yes, the tiger thing might just coin a modern day phrase for zombie shows. Something like - Boy did they jump the tiger.

The show opened strong with that wedding scene. I really liked that and was hoping they got a new guy in charge of the writing staff.

But then . . .

What do you do with the story line for A-hole kid and his A-hole dad? The kid just told his father he does not want to get back with the other group, wants to team up with the new punks and then kills an innocent man in cold blood for protecting his home. Gee dad, do you even like your kid anymore? Time to make him look at the flowers?

I would almost say the kid is adapting faster to the new environment faster than dad. It was wrong to shoot the guy...but the kid didn't want anything happen to his new group.

I wouldn't call the home owner innocent. If I recall, didn't he shoot an unarmed guy holding a chicken?

In the world that is full of zombies, and lawlessness prevails, I think Chris did the right thing. If someone shoots at your group, you shoot back and kill the shooter.

Travis needs to wise up, or he'll get a bullet from a more ruthless foe.

Marcus

The guy killed the chicken, that's stand your ground stuff

Last season I started off disappointed in FTWD, though it got better with the introduction of Strand. This season started off fairly decent, but has now trailed off to disappointment again. I think I could write episodes with more imagination.

Unlike TWD, I'm actually rooting against this show's cast, particularly IDB and A-hole kid. I hope they both get eaten soon by zombies in a particularly gruesome way. Right now I see no momentum for a third season.

Agreed, Chris & the new punks were on his property. Don't worry I think Chris is gonna get eaten soon.

This is interesting, viewership show comparison between TWD & FTWD:

http://www.forbes.com/sites/brandonkatz/2016/09/07/by-the-numbers-the-walking-dead-vs-fear-the-walking-dead/#2f824db93f4c

Those actors better be looking in to "other projects" this show is gone:

I explored The Walking Dead’s ratings in an earlier By The Numbers post when I compared it to HBO’s Game of Thrones. But here’s a quick recap: The Walking Dead‘s sixth season averaged 13.15 million Live+Same Day viewers while scoring an impressive 6.48 rating in the advertiser-friendly 18-49 demographic. When you take into account Live+7 Day numbers, season six averaged 18.9 million viewers while leading all TV shows in the 18-49 demo rating.

Fear The Walking Dead drew in roughly 10 million Live+Same Day viewers for its season one premiere last year. Since then, however, the show has been losing audience numbers like its characters lose chunks of flesh. By the end of season one, FTWD was averaging around 6.5 million real-time viewers. In the first half of season two, that number shrank to around 4.5 million and the two episodes the series has aired since returning posted just 3.7 million viewers and a 1.6 rating in the 18-49 demo. Even when factoring in Live+7 Day ratings, FTWD can’t compete with TWD.

I guess I will start this week. Even though I started drifting more to my computer rather than giving this show my full attention.

So once again the writers could not come up with something so they watched a show called The Walking Dead for ideas. Another stolen plot line like "leading a horde around"!?!?!? Also, rather than taking out the masses in three easier to control chunks they risk the timing of bring together three different groups to the exact some point. But wait! What if someone is late? Whew, 2 seconds of suspense for doing something stupid.

It used to be if you killed one the others got agitated and attacked. But now if you put some guts on yourself you can just walk up and stick them in the head.

Idiot Druggie Boy is just such a hero isn't he? You could tell from the start they want us to love this kid and once again he uses his IDB powers to trick the bad guys and in the end get the girl.

I hope if [when] this show finally gets cancelled they wind this thing up by letting the audience see them all get killed in a final episode. Wimpy Dad does not have the heart to show Chris mercy and gets eaten by him. Madison jumps off a pier but no one is there.

And IDB? The bad guys should come in and shoot everyone up in front of him. Shove some Oxy down his throat until he is hooked again and lock him up with some walkers in a way that when full withdrawals kick in he decides to turn himself into zombie chow.

Sorry, I hate Monday mornings.

That's a good review right there.

They have really overdone the whole wipe blood on themselves to be camouflage from zombies bit. It started off with TWD when Glen & Rick completely doused themselves in blood and guts and puking over it; and even then it didnt always work. Now.....the west coast zombies, all you do is wipe a couple hand prints of blood on your face and you are an instant zombie ninja! I actually liked last weeks episode, but this week was bad on so many levels.

That hotel has working plumbing or was everyone just taking a dump off the side of the pier?

Ophelia & Alicia said there's hot water left when they 1st got to the hotel. Hell why would anyone leave!!

they'll use it all up washing the "blood face" off if they continue to do that every episode.

Or just take a dip in the ocean.

Well, last night's episode wasn't much better. Idiot Drug Boy's Mom (IDBM) was stupid enough to turn on the lights to the hotel at night which led to a confrontation with Idiot Drug Boy's Sister (IDBS) over IDBM loving IDB more than IDBS. That was after IDBM ran into a room of gang murderers doing an interrogation, even after being instructed not to move while making a trade. Speaking of being interrogated, the opening scene was of a guy and his family sneaking out of a safe compound and doing what......yeah, spreading a little zombie blood on each other to make themselves invisible to zombies but not gang bangers. Where they were going or why was never explained, but it was a convenient plot point to give away the compound's location to some bad guys. The other hotel Mom stabbed a person who killed her zombified daughter, and it wasn't really a surprise that she would be unstable.

Toouch Spanish. I thought I was on Univision for a minute. My wife says "well, they are in Mexico" but all I can think is that it makes it harder to follow while reading pinside on my phone. The show is only worth half my attention.

I watched first 5 minutes until the girl was getting a surfing lesson(!), complete with swimsuit. It hit me then that I don't care what happens to anyone on this show--it's really terrible. I'm out. If it makes a comeback I'll catch up on netflix but I can't see any way this isn't cancelled.

I watched this season preview as well. I've only seen a few previous episodes. It totally blows FTWD out of the water, even if it is a bit spoofy. They have so many more great ideas, like you mentioned about the zombies on chains wearing metal helmets.

I'm all caught up and have the 2 hour on DVR.

My wife and I gave up on this show last night. No more for us. The show has horrible writing... HORRIBLE.

Gonna give Z Nation a shot. Thanks for the heads up.

At the end of each episode you have to decide for yourself who you want dead the most. IDB had been on top for most of the show. Chris sure wants you to hate him. But this one gave the award to Madison (IDMB) for most likely to get a Shane-shot to the leg to save yourself.

They did mention there are other towns and compounds and he was heading for one. Don't forget the main place with IDB is a cult who leader was "supposedly" bitten and survived. But the rest of it sums up the garbage they are feeding us.

Agreed, Z- nation blows this show away. It is ridiculous, but fun. The only thing that bugged me is if that guys wanted the scientist so bad he would not have sent in such a deadly cast of characters such and those berserker guys with helmets and chain. They would have killed indiscriminately.

The painting the compound red I thought was a tribute to High Plains Drifter. But a total waste of time.

That must have been the end of last season and I missed it. I remember the woman from the Amazon compound pregnant with Murphy's kid catching up to the group. But I did not see the birth.

One thing. (Sorry to get off-topic on Z-nation) do you think 5K (crow boy) was rescued by the crows picking him up? I figured that is why 10K was so surprised when he disappeared and why we saw him surrounded by crows at the end (but no sign of life?!?).

I didn't even tune into my dvr'd September 18th episode of FTWD after reading this. Horrible! However, I was hoping that someone would have watched the September 25th episode of FTWD and posted some Cliff Notes version of what's going on in that trainwreck of a show, just so I could feel confident I'm not missing anything decent. But.. nobody posted anything about the latest episode of FTWD. No complaints, no nothing.. is everyone out? LOL

Here are the Sunday Cliff notes -

Madison turning on the Hotel sign has now attracted stragglers looking for refuge. Of course one of them was Travis.

Then most of the show covers the Travis and Son story thread. Remember the farmer shot one of the 3 new guys before anti-social boy killed him. Well long story short Travis wanted to save the guy, the group wanted him out of his misery and the kid turned on dad to make it happen. Kid vicious took off with other two and left Travis who is now at the hotel.

I do not remember seeing any zombies at all this episode and I don't remember them visiting the Idiot Druggy Boy story thread. But it only gets half attention these days. So psycho boy took off with other two heading to San Diego and the hotel is taking on refugees. Oh, and Madison has a talk with her daughter telling her that her dad actually killed himself and did not die in a car accident and that she loves her just as much as Super Nick.

Why are the people at the hotel taking orders from Madison? They did last week also when she declared anyone hurting anyone else gets kicked out.

Thanks for the Cliff Notes Taxman.