Haha, I know you all are going to laugh a little, but the way I have my Popeye set up, if you get more than 2 loops in a row you cannot even see the ball, so as far as just pure ball speed goes any waxed game with a continuous loop shot will get faster each shot, now my loop record on Popeye is at least 7 or more and at that point you are just going on timing because you cannot track the ball at all.