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F4 fuse is blowing on my 1980 stern game

By Choggard

11 years ago


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#1 11 years ago

Doesn't this fuse control the flipper coils? The right flipper coil I believe is bad it seems to stick or return slow. Not that I can tell because he fuse blows immediately.. What and where else should I be checking?

Thanks in advance...

#2 11 years ago

Any advice?

#3 11 years ago

Had one keep blowing on a Stern Galaxy that turned out to be a bad bridge rectifier. I ended up getting a new rectifier board from Rocketdog. I hear Great Plains Electronics makes a good one too.

#4 11 years ago

Thanks I'll see if I can get a new one..

#5 11 years ago

Choggard,

Before you just buy a new rectifier board that may not solve your problem. Test all the solenoids on the playfield for shorts. All should be fairly low ohms, but any a complete short than you have a bad coil.

Can also unplug the playfield connector on the rectifier board, power up, and see if fuse blows. If the fuse still blows, bad bridge, if not PF short.

For me, replacing a bridge rectifier is a cheaper better solution than just replacing the entire rectifier board. Would probably take me longer to solder all the wire back to the rectifier board than to replace one bridge.

#6 11 years ago
Quoted from barakandl:

Can also unplug the playfield connector on the rectifier board, power up, and see if fuse blows. If the fuse still blows, bad bridge, if not PF short.
For me, replacing a bridge rectifier is a cheaper better solution than just replacing the entire rectifier board. Would probably take me longer to solder all the wire back to the rectifier board than to replace one bridge.

^Truth. My board had multiple issues (including a bad rectifier) that was just a matter of time before it gave up the ghost. But yes, don't replace your board (or components) until you have at least isolated the issue.

#7 11 years ago

What should a coil read when test?

#8 11 years ago

I actually think the right flipper coil is bad so how can I tell.. It's doesn't return very fast to the resting position, kind of sticks...

#9 11 years ago

Any chance you can de-solder the power side and then re-test the game. If the fuse no longer blows you've found your issue.

#10 11 years ago
Quoted from Muppet_Man:

Any chance you can de-solder the power side and then re-test the game. If the fuse no longer blows you've found your issue.

I ment to say of the suspect flipper obviously.

#11 11 years ago

DMM on lowest resistance setting. Measure across the coil lugs. None should be a complete short

#12 11 years ago

Alright cut right flipper wires and fuse still blows.. Now the F6 fuse blows..

#13 11 years ago

Someone solder the bottom plug to it..

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#14 11 years ago

Although it's a bit of a pain, being soldered to the board if done well, shouldn't cause a problem as such.

If you have another fuse blowing, can you tell us what circuit that's for.

Also, knowing the game would be good so I can look at the schematics.

#15 11 years ago

Big Game- I meant to say F6 is blowing..

#16 11 years ago

Looking at the wiring plan, I have this as a 3A slow blow. Is that what you have there?

#17 11 years ago

It looks like that fuse is the main A/C board feed fuse. Normally the best way to go would be to pull all the plugs from the board and then try them back in one at a time, then turn on the machine to see which plug makes the fuse blow, however your not going to be able to do that given that half of yours are now captive to the board.

Did you check the coil resistances and establish that no one in particular is showing dead short - Zero ohm resistance?

You could also check from the fuse out (with the power unplugged) to the connection posts (J2 - 6 looks to be to the fuse - you want the out), but one of the other pins will be an out from the fuse, which should enable you to see where this leads.

#18 11 years ago

I thinking if I replace the board that will solve the problem.. I read online that this board usually needs repair and added bridge rectifiers..

Thanks

#19 11 years ago

Okay, good luck. Let us know if it sorts it all out.

#20 11 years ago

Choggard,

If you purchase a new rectifier board you will have to rebuild the J3 connector as someone hacked the **** out of it. That drives me crazy....

Need a 20pin connector .156" housing, .156" crimp on pins and i would re crimp the other two connector plugs as well.

Great Plains Electronics if you do not have the parts already.

#21 11 years ago

Also it's ok if your shotgunning the board without having a root cause, but keep in mind thats also probably the hardest board to replace in an 80's Bally/Stern. You have a lot of wires soldered onto it from the transformer, and as Elmer Fudd says,,, Be vewy vewy careful, heheheh.. Take pictures and notes.

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#22 11 years ago

Thanks guys...

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