Man, this MOcean guy sounds pretty great... Ha!

So, I've been slowly improving the VP-PROC Bridge and I'm going to document how to get Sys11 machines working in VP. It's tedious, because you generally have to go through the VBScript in the table and rename every switch and lamp from the manual numbering to a row/column format. I have written a reusable VBScript function that tries to remap them from Sys11 to PROC/WPC numbering automatically, but it's not perfect and when you're trying to debug your own code, imperfection in the emulator is not helpful.

For Mark's Second Sortie, I just manually changed all the values in the VBS. I also wrote new VBScript to make the table adhere to the real hardware state a bit more closely (seems Visual Pinmame does some stuff for you, like decoding the AC relay and turning that into a different set of solenoid numbers).

This machine was "pretty easy", but mostly because I've gotten pretty good at this and there's no complex Mechs to deal with on this table.

I just came to this thread to remember if there was a launch button added --I'm adding the autolaunch right now

- Michael

I've had my students use it when the bridge was "kind of crap" which was one of my reasons to try to improve it. Plus, my basement is full, and I still want to be able to play Mark's F-14

Not sure I understand. You mean could you build a custom table and drive the logic through PyProcGame via the Virtual P-ROC COM object (VPCOM Controller?).

If that's the question the answer is a resounding yes, and I'll be working up a tutorial soon

I'm an idiot. I just realized why you are asking.

yes: we can probably get the VP version of WOOLY running the PyProcGame code through the VPROC bridge.

You have friends in the US who will ship to you if that makes things cheaper

Those videos look great. I'll need to add a segment display to my HS project playfield (radar gun). You are the source of all great Sys 11 projects.

bikko: you should totally try some pyprocgame development. The learning curve is rough at first but once you get going you can really fly along. You can find the instructions for installing visual pinball with pyprocgame on my github

https://github.com/mjocean/proc-visual-pinball

Oh! This is a new trick I only figured out recently for testing buffy in VP:

You should do what I do and disable your tilt mode and then you can use the shove and nudge bindings to help make shots almost like you're driving he ball...

What an awesome tutorial; thanks for posting it. I'll stop complaining about how frustrating I'm finding tearing down and reassembling my SoF.

Seriously: stop making the rest of us look bad.

I'm watching this space very intently. Cheap RGB based GI is something a lot of System 11 projects need

You know, the new HDVGA DMD code does supports multiple displays...of course I'll never talk you out of ditching your traditional dmd so I'll save my thumbs.

Okay. I have a set of these on order that should be here by Wednesday. Cost is under $.50 per bulb on the strand. Just awesome.

Since these are just like NeoPixels I intend to use them for GI and also some RGB inserts. I'm excited to have different areas of the playfield have different colored GI lights without having to buy 10 different colors of LEDs and trying them out to see how they look. It'll also be cool to turn off certain areas of the GI. You know what? General illumination is no longer a correct term to describe what these can do for GI. Ambient Illumination is possibly more accurate (but the acronym is super misleading!).

0. I'd say keep using the old table as long as it works. While it's true that I changed a bunch in the VBScript of that VP table because I'd yet to write the explicit system 11 support into the VPCOM bridge, but as long as you don't set sys11=true in the VBScript, this table will keep working just fine.

1. If VP supports color changing of lamps in the VBScript, I see no reason I can't support these arduino rgb LEDs in the VPcom bridge. I just need to find the time to do it(!)

Buffy is using the ws2811 12mm strands as I posted and described in that PinballControllers thread. We use the 2811s for inserts and_ GI, and drive with a modified version of Mark's code, running on a teensy --my modifications let you set the color (64 possible colors) in addition to the schedule. I ported these changes back to Arduino, and wooly now uses the 2811s as well, but they use a different form factor.

Both games were at Expo and neither game exhibited any lamp issues at all.

Some video of Buffy from Expo:
https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/buffy-the-vampire-slayer-pinball/page/7#post-2746645

Massive thanks to Mark for setting us down this path!

Agreed. Buffy has a double height opening. As does Kuglers. Go big or go home. That's a saying, right?

I'm interested in trying a P2 or smaller panel. It's hard for me to going back to such a low pixel density for some projects...