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F14 Tomcat Owners Club Fans Also Welcome.

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Post #91 Insert color list Posted by jodini (10 years ago)

Post #98 Video - Add red flashers back to light show. Posted by Patofnaud (10 years ago)

Post #163 Technical Sheet - Matrix, etc. Posted by Snux (10 years ago)

Post #205 Speaker Panel - Early model= glue Posted by IceCreamMan (10 years ago)

Post #406 Pop bumper cap replacement. Posted by Fifty (9 years ago)

Post #466 Bulletproof - rectifier fuses Posted by Snux (9 years ago)

Post #477 Removing warming resistors Posted by Jumping-Box (9 years ago)

Post #513 Cliffy Flipper Frames Posted by Xenon75 (9 years ago)

Post #569 How to increase Bonus Posted by wayout440 (9 years ago)

Post #747 Pinball Cards Posted by agodfrey (9 years ago)


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#2413 7 years ago

Just joined the club

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#2416 7 years ago
Quoted from TomDK:

Good luck with the motor !
Please let us know if it works ! I had this replacement and it was not able to turn on all 3 beacons.
Coindoor: Black ...

The topper works fine and the coin door is black.I got a chance to play for a while at a show before I bough it.plays solid and looks good.obviously a little wear with some crappy touch ups but when you first walk up you don't notice.I didn't notice until I leaned in to inspect because I played a few games and was getting interested in making an offer.has some soft (not real bright) led lights added and now mylared.paid $1600.

#2431 6 years ago

I don't know if this helps but this is the bottom of my pop bumper.I'm new and don't know the terminology so forgive me of this I'd not the switch.

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#2432 6 years ago

After thinking about it this is probably the switch

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#2469 6 years ago

This is my F14 that @bcgameguide posted about.I should add in that during multiplayer games I'm getting wierd flight insurance.had one happen on ball 2 and then gave the same player 2 flight insurances on the same ball.

#2471 6 years ago

GRUMPY yes 2 down and leaving in a few to pick up a Black Belt with a faulty flipper and the sound can barely be heard so let's make that 3 down lol.I wasn't going to post this until I got the WW going so you didn't think all the time you've spent with me was wasted but I talked to BC above and he posted for me so I figured I'd chime in.I was already thinking check the 5volt(seems like it's a common culprit).I have the BR along with capacitors and diodes to rebuild the whole thing but now I can't find my solder.I ordered some the other day using Terry B's advice of 63/37 so hopefully soon WW will be back up.again thanks for the help!!!!!!!!! I've been reading a lot and I'm looking in to taking a few classes at the local community college.they have a few classes I think would benefit me.

#2472 6 years ago

I believe these are all my tilt mechanisms.as you can see no ball on the oNE so that can't tilt.the pendulum has a good gap and when activated gives a warning.the one on the door has a wide gap but if activated resets the game as described above(no way that the contacts are touching while playing though).the last pic of the round thing appears to be wired to the tilts but does nothing if I make contact.are there any other tilt/slam tilt mechs?

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#2474 6 years ago

I'm going to be pro repair man or a broke collector,time will tell.

#2477 6 years ago

Found the playfield tilt (couldn't miss the big label) this one has a huge gap and when triggered it makes a tilt(screen says tilt/audible sound and can't use flippers until the ball is drained)where as the doors slam tilt resets the entire game and screen reads free play as described above.

#2478 6 years ago

I'll check voltages tonight

1 month later
#2564 6 years ago
Quoted from ajfclark:

Looks like they corrected the price to $975.

Still A Good price

2 weeks later
#2598 6 years ago

One of my cheapest yet favorite in the collection

1 week later
#2610 6 years ago

My machine described above in post #2468-2480 was indeed the 5 volt power supply after having it rebuilt its running so good I damaged a spring on a flipper lol

#2614 6 years ago

Mine also says 554 so I don't think that means what you think it does

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#2638 6 years ago

Mine would slam tilt when I would be having a good game usually around multi ball.it's described and diagnosed a few pages back.turned out to be the 5v power supply on mine.

3 weeks later
#2779 6 years ago

Are you asking why sometimes it locks 1 ball other times 2?when you complete tomcat once it locks 1 ball if you complete tomcat twice before locking or losing a ball it will lock 2.

#2780 6 years ago

So I noticed the little bar in town had 2 pinball machines and last time I was in they only had 1. So I found time to stop in and see what it was and lo and behold it was F-14. And probably the darkest,dimmest,hardest F-14 I ever played. Well after about eight games I was finally getting my eyes adjusted to the game and finally got the multi-ball and when them flasher started going off the whole bar just stopped and looked to see what was going on and the bartender was like holy shit nobody's ever done that before. And the sad thing was my score still wasn't high enough to beat the default high scores.

#2805 6 years ago

I'm so rooting for you StylesBitchly to get your f14 working 100%. Grumpy got 2 of my machines back on the road and life has never been so good.the wife hasn't complained about pinball machines in the living room since and has even caught that 1 more game feeling.
Grumpy is better than a marriage counselor !!

#2817 6 years ago

I have 6 in my living room and the only reason I'm thinking of relocating to the basement us I can only fit about 8 in the living room and I'm not stopping at 8.

#2820 6 years ago

I would leave 3 at all time in the living room. Caribbean Cruise under the TV and one on each side of the TV,it fits 2 and a cocktail perfect and was the original plan.I'll probably go back to that and start a basement game room for company and keep them out of the upstairs.

#2824 6 years ago

I'll use a mirrors to simulate a larger collection

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#2830 6 years ago

I have the pinball pro speakers with the upgraded sub.the speakers sound good but the sub sounds like total shit in f14.being an older game there isn't much of a bass track therefore there's not much signal to the sub for it to do much.I wish I would of saved my money and just did the backbox speakers.the sub sounds much better in my WW.

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#2870 6 years ago

Just chimp flip your way to victory

#2877 6 years ago

New problem.on ball 3 I completed all the kill lites to light extra ball (never collected)also 2 sets of tomcat targets.the big round light in front of the kill targets went white and stayed on which I dont recall happening before.I shot a ball up the right side to start the lock and it went crazy as if i got an extra ball or something as it locked the first ball then let me lock the second ball at that point it ended my turn and went to ball 4 and would not kick the ball out to the shooter lane.I retrieved the balls and can start a game but it won't kick the ball out. P.s.it also reset my high scores the other day and the batteries are not old.

#2888 6 years ago

When it goes through coil test nothing happens until 17 L sling then 18 R sling then 20 pop bumper 21 top diverted and 22 lower diverted nothing happens on the rest.switch level test I get an audible that sound like it's telling me to address the 4 thing it's cycling 11 Rt ball trough,12 Rc ball trough,13 Lc ball trough and 22 L cent eject. I'll look at my manuals and see what I can guess and post back before any advice maybe I'll get lucky.

#2890 6 years ago

No flashers, I checked every fuse in the back box I could find on and off the boards.

#2893 6 years ago

Same thing except now it won't go through the switch test but I bet you already know that.also it doesn't do nothing on the switch edges test (ever) unless I hit a flipper or start button.

#2894 6 years ago

Hmm.... where did my manual go?

#2902 6 years ago
Quoted from GRUMPY:

You can do a factory reset also.

Is a factory reset different than resetting to factory settings? I did reset to factory then switched to free play(no help).I can't reach the roms tonight,my sick pup is camped out in front of the machine and it's wedged in between others.

#2905 6 years ago

In test 05 switch levels nothing with all 4 ball removed,put balls back in and must manually flick them over and as I add more balls I get more trough errors.start game no ball ejects to shooter lane after manually advancing and launching ball it locks into the right side upper lock by pop bumber,ends turn and goes to ball 2.knocked ball out slings work and score as do tomcat targets,pop bumper and spinner.the rescue does not kick as well as Yargov.so it seems all coils are not firing except flippers.

#2920 6 years ago

Removed roms and gave them a quick cleaning with alcohol then reseated them and it didn't help

#2930 6 years ago

So I've looked at the manual trying to see if I can make a common connection between the problems.I know very little so feel free to correct/educate me.page 27(solenoid table) shows they are on multpile different driver trans so I'm thinking not that.page 29 (switch -matrix table) shows I have multiple problems in column 2&3 says check for short circuit between the row wires . questions,what wires?under the playful and how do I test beyond a visual inspection?I ran another switch test and now the errors are not the same,now we have #14,13,12,11 and 48.tried the auto burn-in and everything works in display,sound and lamp(lamp test just blinks all lights except flashers and lower half of the back box lights for about a minute).then goes to Solenoid test and nothing activates except the slings,pop bumper and diverters.after turning off and back on it powers up and reports no errors unless i go back into test mode.when trying a switch edge test the only thing I can test is the flippers and start button,is this test made for manually activating each thing with the glass off?when inactivate either flipper I get a spinner message.

#2931 6 years ago

My center diagnostic led is rapidly flashing with no interruption

#2933 6 years ago

My cable is also the same as slapnuts.looks like you may have an easy fix.

#2939 6 years ago

Possibly have the match feature turned off?

#2959 6 years ago

GRUMPY any suggestions for me? Or should I have our local tech guru check it out when I get him over to update the code on my rfm?

#2964 6 years ago
Quoted from GRUMPY:

Have you tested F-2 and F-4 on the power supply?

No sir but I will now.

#2966 6 years ago

OK then fuses,yes I pulled every fuse but I'm on my way home and I will double check.

#2967 6 years ago

Well f2 which I swear i checked was blown and the wrong fuse.I'll recheck the rest and make sure the rest are the proper fuse.I can now start a game and some of the things that were not working are and maybe all,I didn't play long enough to find out as I noticed there's some light bulb issues so I turned it off.I did notice f2 in that minute or 2 seemed to be warming up and the other 3 right there weren't. Is it normal for it to get warm?my instinct says something wasn't right but there is current running through it.I'll poke around a little more and report back if needed in a couple days with what the lights are doing.

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#3164 6 years ago

OK I got all most of the little problems on my other pins taken care of so I'm now ready to get my F14 back up and running.

I'm having issues with my flashers and back box lights.most of my back box lights are out and some of the flashers most notably most of the ones along the back of the playfield,not all of them but some are not working and also the ones in the big round center insert in front of the kill targets lock on.game still seems to play fine but I haven't left it on very long as when it first did it it blew a fuse and if I turn it on the new fuse gets warm quick.I had a tech out working on some other games but he didn't know to much on system 11's but he did test some of the transistors and found no problem but said this piece was getting hotter than it should.

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#3165 6 years ago

Note that the center flasher does turn off for a split second when launching a ball but locks back on.I made a video but don't know how to post it.

#3166 6 years ago

Couple crappy pics.2nd is just turning the game on and 1st is after starting with the lights locked on blinding you and shows the lights out in the backbox.

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#3168 6 years ago

1.772

#3169 6 years ago

That is the one I tracked it down to myself and then so did the tech that came out.he tested it then and said it was good and I did a few minutes ago myself and have no clue if 1.772 is low or not.I've also been having an issue with WW I thought I resolved but apparently not so I'll be posting over there again.

#3171 6 years ago

About the same with 1.8

#3172 6 years ago

It seems it goes to 0 when a game is started.I'll verify tonight when I have a helper that can turn it on and start a game for me while I'm doing a reading

#3175 6 years ago

I'll check for corrosion tonight but never noticed any.how do I check u28 and u38?

#3177 6 years ago

Ordered.I might as well ask now how to check u28 and u38 so I can do it as soon as it arrives.and what kind of reading should I be looking for?

#3178 6 years ago

Board looks corrosion free to me

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#3185 6 years ago

Wow that was fast my logic probe is already here.so how do I test these things?

#3191 6 years ago

OK I found U19 and the 2 test points to connect the logic probe but how are the pins numbered? Am I checking the top row or bottom? And does #1 start on the left or right?

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#3196 6 years ago

I think I got it I can see the trace from the one I labeled 5 going to u28

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#3198 6 years ago

I'll check when I get home I'm going off pictures I took last night

#3199 6 years ago

4 is high 5 and 6 are low

#3201 6 years ago

I have a question on how to properly check q22,want to make sure I have the correct info for you.I used the ground where the braided wire is and am I supposed to check the leg or the big metal piece? And to check continuity I go back to the dmm on ohm,black on 6 red on q18 in attract mode?

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#3203 6 years ago

Q 22 was the first thing I checked I just wanted to confirm the proper way to check it

#3205 6 years ago

Q18 test at .2 in for continuity on ohm setting.q22 is 5.4 and with closer inspection I'm seeing some distortion.

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#3207 6 years ago

Low in attract mode

#3209 6 years ago

Thank younonce again!!! Good news is Q-22 was my first instinct bad news is I tested wrong and missed the obvious distortion and wouldn't know if 5.4 was good or bad.
Now before I order parts I need to figure out WW. I was looking at the switch matrix and seems like most of the issues have Q-44 in common.

#3211 6 years ago

I posted the other day in the WW thread

#3226 6 years ago

Someone get Grumpy a plastic !!!! It's the least we can do for him.I looked on ebay,I was going to buy him one but there's none available right now.

#3230 6 years ago

I know that but if I ebay would of had one it would be on the way to you.it would of cost me about as much as a good beer and I would definitely buy you a beer if we ever meet.

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#3265 6 years ago

I'm back up and mostly running I'm still missing the lower half of the back box lights (entire string)but the flasher is no longer locked on.no tips on the back box lights yet,i want to do a little fiddling around and see if I can figure it out on my own.

2 months later
#3377 5 years ago

I fried my display trying to hook up an interactive under cab light kit.I either went to the wrong connector or tied into the wrong voltage.I'll get with the vendor to figure that out but my question is can this be fixed or just buy a new one.I verified it was fried by swapping in my one from fire which worked fine.

Edit: I got my answer and I was told since it was working before I shorted it out it should be able to be fixed
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#3379 5 years ago
Quoted from tilted81:

Wish I was in the club anyone looking to sell

I have one with a fried display lol

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#3387 5 years ago

Can you ever have to much cord?

1 month later
#3434 5 years ago

I went red on my new display I'll try to rember to get a pic up by tomorrow

#3438 5 years ago
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#4383 3 years ago

Flight insurance is basically given if you're having a shit game.i almost never get it my wife sees it fairly often.

#4402 3 years ago
Quoted from C0untDeM0net:

After all of the help you have given I feel like I owe you a bunch of beers or something.

Theres so many of us that feel the same way Grumpy is the best.

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#4693 3 years ago
Quoted from Pauz21:

- Randomly a ball will begin with just sound. No music.

Mine started doing the same thing

#4695 3 years ago

It doesn't do it everytime but it does do it.if I turn it off and on or just drain the ball it works fine.it also on rare occasions will start up fine then lose the music mid ball then work fine after draining.

#4698 3 years ago
Quoted from bobukcat:

Any chance those of you with the intermittent sound issues are all running Rottendog boards?:

Pretty sure mine are all original

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