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F14 Tomcat Owners Club Fans Also Welcome.

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#4251 4 years ago
Quoted from Ky1ebasa:

Currently in the middle of swapping out playfields and on top of reflowing all solder connections and replacing diodes, I am also trying to get the diverter gate in-line with the service bulletin to prevent binding. Looking at my assembly, I am missing the insulating bracket and can't seem to find it anywhere. Any recommendations on replacements or know where I can find one?
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They call it a bracket, but it's likely non-conductive "fish paper" to protect against shorting out to the higher voltage coil wiring. Not sure if you can find the exact part number, but Marco has plenty of items that I'm sure you could make work. https://www.marcospecialties.com/control/keywordsearch?SEARCH_STRING=fish%20paper

You should also install a fuse in-line with the voltage wiring going to the coil to protect the board if the diverter ever binds.

#4252 4 years ago
Quoted from koen12344:

Yes there are supposed to be flashers there, but there was a service bulletin from Williams to disconnect them because they could cause a short with those standup targets.
I've put them back on mine and insulated the lamp sockets with some heat shrink tubing.

Ok perfect thanks very much. I kind of thought so because I could see in the playfield pictures here on pinside they aren’t in the later versions of the game. Do you happen to have a picture of how they are wired?

#4253 4 years ago
Quoted from luckymoey:

They call it a bracket, but it's likely non-conductive "fish paper" to protect against shorting out to the higher voltage coil wiring. Not sure if you can find the exact part number, but Marco has plenty of items that I'm sure you could make work. https://www.marcospecialties.com/control/keywordsearch?SEARCH_STRING=fish%20paper
You should also install a fuse in-line with the voltage wiring going to the coil to protect the board if the diverter ever binds.

I had thought about fish paper, however the bulletin asks you to bend the insulating bracket as a means to adjust the resting position of the diverter arm. I can't imagine fishpaper working for that. I was thinking about just picking up some thin angle bracket from home Depot and drilling some holes. Something that retains the angle of the bend. But who knows. Thanks for the input!

#4254 4 years ago

Ky1ebasa
Here is some pictures. Hope it helps with making one.

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#4255 4 years ago
Quoted from luckymoey:

There’s a used spinner assembly with the right switch for sale on eBay. Not cheap but probably worth grabbing. Maybe he’ll sell just the switch if you ask.

Blah. Made the mistake of waiting around for his super slow responses and missed out. So I guess I'm back on the prowl. He said he doesn't have the actual gate switches.. which is weird because he definitely has at least one of the gates... Meh

I'm doubting there's any way to repair this in any way, but does anyone know if it's possible to buy JUST this leaf?
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//Edit I soldered it back together and started trying to adjust again. Couldn't get it to move worth a damn... Then it broke again. So I'm pretty sure I'm back to either sourcing a leaf or an entire switch stack.

#4256 4 years ago
Quoted from Soapman:

Ky1ebasa
Here is some pictures. Hope it helps with making one.[quoted image][quoted image][quoted image]

Thanks for that! Looks like it's welded on to the bracket. I'll figure something out and make it work.

#4257 4 years ago

I've seen that you can use the gottlieb part as a substitute for the spinner switches. May have to move the mounting location a bit and add a diode, but other than that, should work. https://www.marcospecialties.com/control/keywordsearch?SEARCH_STRING=+B-18807 or http://www.actionpinball.com/parts.php?item=B-18807

#4258 4 years ago

Yeah, I ended up ordering one. I went to replace my pop cap (Evo + starburst red cap looks AWESOME) last night and found that my lower right flipper suddenly isn't working and that wonderful left gate that WAS working fine is suddenly getting stuck and keeping the ball from falling through. So I might just beat it with a hammer at this point.

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#4259 4 years ago

Hello fellas, is there a Rom update for F-14. Recently did one on DE SW. World of a difference in game play...Just wondering....

#4260 4 years ago
Quoted from KSUWildcatFan:

Yeah, I ended up ordering one. I went to replace my pop cap (Evo + starburst red cap looks AWESOME) last night and found that my lower right flipper suddenly isn't working and that wonderful left gate that WAS working fine is suddenly getting stuck and keeping the ball from falling through. So I might just beat it with a hammer at this point.[quoted image]

Probably a broken wire at the upper right flipper.

#4261 4 years ago
Quoted from FLASHBALL:

Probably a broken wire at the upper right flipper.

You son of a...

Don't you have an eight ball deluxe to be working on?! Oh, wait, I have all the stuff you need in my garage....

#4262 4 years ago

This project is almost a wrap! New playfield, mirrored back glass, LED display, black powder coated armor/ramps, PDI Glass...etc the list goes on The pin that got me into the hobby has been beautified..It’s special to me that is why I dumped so much time and $$$$ into it ..loving my blacked out F-14, just a few tweaks left..Enjoy
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#4263 4 years ago
Quoted from BladeFury:

This project is almost a wrap! New playfield, mirrored back glass, LED display, black powder coated armor/ramps, PDI Glass...etc the list goes on The pin that got me into the hobby has been beautified..It’s special to me that is why I dumped so much time and $$$$ into it ..loving my blacked out F-14, just a few tweaks left..Enjoy
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Beauty!

#4264 4 years ago
Quoted from BladeFury:

This project is almost a wrap! New playfield, mirrored back glass, LED display, black powder coated armor/ramps, PDI Glass...etc the list goes on The pin that got me into the hobby has been beautified..It’s special to me that is why I dumped so much time and $$$$ into it ..loving my blacked out F-14, just a few tweaks left..Enjoy
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I like the blades!! About the only other thing id like to add to mine. Nice job!

#4265 4 years ago
Quoted from BladeFury:

This project is almost a wrap! New playfield, mirrored back glass, LED display, black powder coated armor/ramps, PDI Glass...etc the list goes on The pin that got me into the hobby has been beautified..It’s special to me that is why I dumped so much time and $$$$ into it ..loving my blacked out F-14, just a few tweaks left..Enjoy
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Man that looks sharp wrapped in black!

#4266 4 years ago

Awesome! You all finishing your restorations are making me envious!

#4267 4 years ago

So in my haste to get my EOS switch swapped out the iron rested against the capacitor... will this be an immediate issue that needs to be addressed, or can some playing take place while waiting for the part to arrive?

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#4268 4 years ago

I don’t think it will be an issue. I doubt that wrecked it. I could be wrong though. I think it basically just reduces the spark at contact so I think it will be fine.

#4269 4 years ago

Thanks, that’s what I was thinking/hoping - just wanted some confirmation from folks smarter than me.

Excited to get these flippers up and running again on this game

#4270 4 years ago

fantastic work!!!what is your model of led for your GI ?how many led need for complete playfield? thanks.

#4271 4 years ago

Here's one for the group....

I like to have my F14 on attract mode because I enjoy the sounds that come on sporadically. But there's one sound (the main background music) that when it comes on, it never ends. It gets kind of annoying after 20 minutes. Does anyone else have this issue? I would love to figure out why it does this and if there's a solution.

Thanks.

#4272 4 years ago
Quoted from FLASHBALL:

Here's one for the group....
I like to have my F14 on attract mode because I enjoy the sounds that come on sporadically. But there's one sound (the main background music) that when it comes on, it never ends. It gets kind of annoying after 20 minutes. Does anyone else have this issue? I would love to figure out why it does this and if there's a solution.
Thanks.

From my understanding that's just part of attract mode. More than one person has told me "..Just wait until it goes into its 20 minute attract mode..."

#4273 4 years ago

Mine doesn't go on forever, it does stop and go into other sequences. Not sure why yours will not stop.

#4274 4 years ago

I had a highspeed that would randomly do that. I think there was a thread on it on pinside where someone else was having the issue. I’ll see if I can find it.

#4275 4 years ago
Quoted from BladeFury:

This project is almost a wrap! New playfield, mirrored back glass, LED display, black powder coated armor/ramps, PDI Glass...etc the list goes on The pin that got me into the hobby has been beautified..It’s special to me that is why I dumped so much time and $$$$ into it ..loving my blacked out F-14, just a few tweaks left..Enjoy
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where did you get your plastic set?

#4276 4 years ago

Hey Gang, having an issue. My game starts up but when you plunge the ball it goes up drops into the first lock area, instead of firing it out it acts as if the ball drained and moves onto the next ball. I replaced the 4amp fuse at F2 to no avail. Any other recommendations?
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#4277 4 years ago
Quoted from fisherdaman:

Hey Gang, having an issue. My game starts up but when you plunge the ball it goes up drops into the first lock area, instead of firing it out it acts as if the ball drained and moves onto the next ball. I replaced the 4amp fuse at F2 to no avail. Any other recommendations?
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Does it ever eject the ball out of the lock spot? Does that coil fire when it should during solenoid test mode?

#4278 4 years ago
Quoted from fisherdaman:

Any other recommendations?

Did you check the fuse just above the board that f-2 is on. In your pic it's hiding behind the red, orange and black wires.

#4279 4 years ago
Quoted from bobukcat:

Does it ever eject the ball out of the lock spot? Does that coil fire when it should during solenoid test mode?

No it wont eject it out of the lock, or any of the locks nor do they fire in testing.

#4280 4 years ago
Quoted from fisherdaman:

No it wont eject it out of the lock, or any of the locks nor do they fire in testing. With the glass off I put the ball in other locks or kickouts and the switches see the ball and keep saying fire but it doesn't eject the ball

#4281 4 years ago

Got my old F-14 shopped out, was long overdue. My pins have certainly benefited from this lockdown.

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#4282 4 years ago
Quoted from hawkeye11:

Got my old F-14 shopped out, was long overdue. My pins have certainly benefited from this lockdown. [quoted image]

Looks great! I'm making progress on some things also. My F14 needs some definite attention, but it's further down the list I'm afraid.

#4283 4 years ago

If anyone wants an over the top resto this is still available
https://pinside.com/pinball/market/classifieds/archive/92236

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#4284 4 years ago
Quoted from WeirPinball:

If anyone wants an over the top resto this is still available
https://pinside.com/pinball/market/classifieds/archive/92236

Nice looking machine!!

I noticed you have light boards under the arrow inserts. Mine have sockets for each of the arrows?

#4285 4 years ago

Mine has light boards also for the arrow inserts.

#4286 4 years ago
Quoted from BrewNinja:

Mine has light boards also for the arrow inserts.

It's not that unusual at all, I'm not sure when they switched over but there are plenty examples of both in the wild.

#4287 4 years ago

Two down, 96 million more to go. These front ones were... Uh... Interesting in how they were secured together.

Both stacks disintegrated in my hands as I tried to remove the blade, so I had to reassemble completely from scratch. I really hope the remaining 18 don't do the same.

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#4288 4 years ago

The blues...oh my! Side note: it's waaaaay too cramped where these lower switch stacks are, ugh!

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#4289 4 years ago

Blues all done, 6 reds tomorrow and then I have to wait to do my middle (1-3 left and 4-6 right) in yellow until I have them back.

At least, I think I'm going yellow.. It's that or green.. Depends on what gets used on my eight ball deluxe I guess..
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#4290 4 years ago

brought my F14 home yesterday & shopping for parts now. (rubbers, LEDs, coil sleeves, springs, etc) almost done working on my Police Force so I figured I better get the F14 materials on the way. very excited to get to work on this one.

#4291 4 years ago

KSUWildcatFan I found a bent nail holding one of mine together the other day. What did you end up using to secure them?

#4292 4 years ago
Quoted from bonez0607:

ksuwildcatfan I found a bent nail holding one of mine together the other day. What did you end up using to secure them?

#6 screws (3/4") with kepnuts. It's snug, but works.

Pics from my high speed, but I'm following the same guidelines.

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#4293 4 years ago

I need to replace my right gate switch, completely at this point. I bought the Gottleib part with intention of just stealing the blade off it and now I've got two piles of switch parts.

Is there any way to buy replacement 'tube' pieces for these Williams switches? I can probably reconstruct this stupid stack if it's possible to buy replacements of those.

#4294 4 years ago

Literally just went and did that... thanks

My project for this morning was getting the displays back nice and snug.

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#4295 4 years ago
Quoted from bonez0607:

Literally just went and did that... thanks
My project for this morning was getting the displays back nice and snug.[quoted image][quoted image][quoted image][quoted image][quoted image]

Looking good! That bent nail fix is hilarious, but it works.... Lol

Every single target I've replaced thus far on this machine has caused the entire stack to fall apart in my hands. I've gotten used to just keeping the rivets (loosely) in place while I position my hands to deal with everything that's come apart. Usually it's the stupid target blade clinging to the inner plastic tube pieces. I slightly wallow out the holes on all my new target blades prior to install for this very reason.

Still 6 more red to go and 6 white. Bleh.

Unfortunately since I destroyed my right gate switch entirely, I've broken the connection on several things (like the microswitch for the right middle ball eject) and more or less rendered my game inoperable for now. Sigh.

#4296 4 years ago
Quoted from BladeFury:

This project is almost a wrap! New playfield, mirrored back glass, LED display, black powder coated armor/ramps, PDI Glass...etc the list goes on The pin that got me into the hobby has been beautified..It’s special to me that is why I dumped so much time and $$$$ into it ..loving my blacked out F-14, just a few tweaks left..Enjoy
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I’ll take the old PF. Looks better than mines,...

#4297 4 years ago

I’m curious to see what you end up doing with your right gate switch. I had to do some adjusting of mine as it wasn’t registering during play. I was terrified I was going to snap it and end up in the same situation... thankfully it didn’t. Just some dirty contacts and the gap was way too open. Operating as it should now.

Btw, where’d you get those targets? Wife walked by and said... “you should do that”

#4298 4 years ago
Quoted from bonez0607:

I’m curious to see what you end up doing with your right gate switch. I had to do some adjusting of mine as it wasn’t registering during play. I was terrified I was going to snap it and end up in the same situation... thankfully it didn’t. Just some dirty contacts and the gap was way too open. Operating as it should now.
Btw, where’d you get those targets? Wife walked by and said... “you should do that”

I hate that switch, so damn much. Someday I'll get it right and I'll never have to touch the damn thing again. Until then, I hate it.

Hahahahahaha, suckerrrrrrrr!!!!

http://pinball-mods.com/oscom/product_info.php?products_id=55{1}25

Don't forget to grab clear pop bodies while you're there, I think he's the only guy selling them:

http://pinball-mods.com/oscom/product_info.php?products_id=42{1}70

I went with frosted clear since nobody seems to sell the plastic piece that actually sits ON the playfield and thus, shows through the bumper body a bit. Looks fine if the pop has white art under it but I imagine it looks less great on a non-white background.
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#4299 4 years ago
Quoted from KSUWildcatFan:

Is there any way to buy replacement 'tube' pieces for these Williams switches?

https://www.marcospecialties.com/pinball-parts/03-7007-14A

#4300 4 years ago

As always, you're the MVP.

I'm buying 9 million of these stupid things.

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