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#2201 10 days ago
Quoted from TomDK:

Question in the club:
Anybody ever heard from a proto or earlie F-14 with the additionel 4 bulbs on the display pcb CONNECTED ?!
Many machines have this display like in Millionaire ... but so far no one ever had it connected to the PDB ..
Thanks for looking

As far as I know, they never utilized these lights on f14. I was just the other day thinking about how to hook them up somehow.

#2202 10 days ago

We're in charge to do that - it's not so difficult.
You need some resistors, sockets, bulbs or LED and the connection to the power supply or to the GI wiring.
The base of the LED-Panel is the same as used in the Millionaire, but that Pin has two more displays for credit counter.

#2203 10 days ago
Quoted from Averell:

We're in charge to do that - it's not so difficult.
You need some resistors, sockets, bulbs or LED and the connection to the power supply or to the GI wiring.
The base of the LED-Panel is the same as used in the Millionaire, but that Pin has two more displays for credit counter.

YOu are in charge .. I am just the guy sitting in the corner waiting for your success

Same question in r.g.p. ... no usefull answer so far. A guy told me that he had a look in the proto schematics and there is no space for an other 4 switched lamps in the matrix. F-14 uses them all ....

#2204 10 days ago

Yes, I will get it on.
Today I tested with regular bulb and LED... power consuption is 0,5 A with a bulb and only 0,15 A with LED.
Resistor gets really hot with bulb, so we need resistors with wattage up to 2 Watts.
With LED there's no problem with consumption and heat, but not everyone likes LED, so I want to design the circuit interchangeable.
My solution is a resistor with 15 Ohm and 2 Watts - that will work.

#2205 9 days ago

I don't see why you can't just alligator clip or solder directly to one of the gi sockets no? Why resistors?

#2206 9 days ago

I use a PinLED-Board and this board has four sockets for bulbs and a connector, but not equiped.
Two bulbs have their own circuit, and the other two are connected parallel and there are three placeholders for resistors and the wiring is connected via these resistors to the sockets.
I take 12 Volt from Power Supply and therefor I need the resistors to operate LED with 6 Volts.
First I have to solder the connector and the resistors.

#2207 9 days ago

Averell, make sure to write up a summary/how to when you're done. It would be very helpful for the rest of us.

#2208 9 days ago

I wrote a manual how to reinstall the prototype flashers, but it's available in German only.
So Do I with the summary for the PinLED-Board.
It's not difficult to understand and very easy to do.
My new calculation now is a 12 Ohm resistor for standalone circuit and 6,8 Ohm for parallel switched bulbs.
That will work and I have tested yesterday.
I've ordered the parts but now I have to wait for delivery.

#2209 8 days ago

Just started a tech thread for an F14 I got called out to look at.
Thought I would post the link here in case any of you System 11 experts can help me out.
https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/f14-burnt-coil-and-other-questions

#2210 8 days ago

@averell pm me the manual. I know german a bit.

Gave my F14 some TLC this evening. Tried LEDs from China with a single 5050 SMD cold white. Results are excellent! I was afraid the smd would not spread the light enough but its very good. The six controlled lights are also china made cointaker style with a white dome. These are super!

Switched to a clear bumper cap with a slow colour changer under. Spreads the colours very good. Also put in Transparent silicon slingshot rubbers, superbands and some lexan protectors. And finally I put in the two missing flashers up top but I haven't wired it up yet. And lots of electric tape underneath on every switch. Lol

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#2211 7 days ago
Quoted from aerobert:

averell pm me the manual. I know german a bit.
Gave my F14 some TLC this evening. Tried LEDs from China with a single 5050 SMD cold white. Results are excellent! I was afraid the smd would not spread the light enough but its very good. The six controlled lights are also china made cointaker style with a white dome. These are super!
Switched to a clear bumper cap with a slow colour changer under. Spreads the colours very good. Also put in Transparent silicon slingshot rubbers, superbands and some lexan protectors. And finally I put in the two missing flashers up top but I haven't wired it up yet. And lots of electric tape underneath on every switch. Lol

I would suggest Blue LEDs for the right column of bonus inserts, mine were completely faded like yours and some blue LEDs really brought them back. Just a suggestion.

#2212 7 days ago
Quoted from bobukcat:

I would suggest Blue LEDs for the right column of bonus inserts, mine were completely faded like yours and some blue LEDs really brought them back. Just a suggestion.

Yup, makes a huge difference.

#2213 7 days ago

Agreed. Mine are faded but with comet smd's in it blue as can be.

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#2214 7 days ago

Yup I have a batch of leds on its way from China. Exact Same shit cointakers and comet use but a third of the price.

#2215 7 days ago

@aerobert: I need your Email, please send to sethbrundle@nexgo.de and I send you the manual.

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#2218 6 days ago

Here you can see the free area in the PinLED-Board that can be used in F-14 Tomcat also.

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I soldered high power resistors with 12 Ohm and 6,8 Ohm, remembering that two bulbs have their own circuit, and the other two are connected parallel. The angled plug is in delivery.

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I prepared the electric directly from the power supply as well.
I use unregulated 12 volts via pin 6 (Plus) and pin 14 (Ground) at plug 3J6.
The required counter plug is in delivery also.

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#2219 22 hours ago
Quoted from lpeters82:

Added a few toys to my F-14.

Hello, I'm a new member and a proud owner of a F-14 pinball. Wanted to ask you (or anyone) how did you mount your toys on the play field? Thanks!

#2220 12 hours ago

Has anyone had this happen where all the eject solenoid keep firing like they are looking for a ball but all the balls are in the trough? mine just started doing this.
Thank you in advance for any help you could send me.

#2221 11 hours ago

Check the Switches in the ballthrough. Cant remember if it uses opto, if so, clean them with qtip and check solder and/or board connector.

Should be a very Easy fix.

#2222 5 hours ago

Thank you, Aerobert. I will check that out. So there's probably just a switch stuck that thinks the balls have not returned?

#2223 5 hours ago

Yes, most likely the game miscounts the number of balls in the game. It either thinks one ball is missing (bad opto/switch), or all are missing (completely disconnected or broken switch/opto assembly).

This is the most simple, and normally the first, thing to check every time there are issues with missing balls, or the game firing away one extra or some other strange ball related things.

#2224 5 hours ago

So the switch test will let me know if there is a stuck switch triggering those coils? I also will check the connector on the board, if a wire was broken though they wouldn't be triggering in the first place. I thank you again for steering me in the right direction.

#2225 4 hours ago

The trough switches are sub-micro switches. If adjustment of the wire is not the problem, it's usually a bad switch will need to be replaced.

#2226 4 hours ago

Hey guys. I may be venturing into my first pinball. I found an F-14 Tomcat advertised for $1000. Playfield in good shape, backglass almost perfect, new rubber. Cabinet is a little crispy, and the owner says it doesn't play music. (Don't know about sound effects).

I'm asking for help in what I should be looking at when I go see it later today. I am not at all familiar with Williams Sys11.

Thanks guys. I'm pretty excited about it. Is $1000 reasonable do you think?
-J

#2227 4 hours ago
Quoted from raplaka75:

Hello, I'm a new member and a proud owner of a F-14 pinball. Wanted to ask you (or anyone) how did you mount your toys on the play field? Thanks!

Existing post screws and made mounts out of spring steel.

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#2228 4 hours ago
Quoted from miatawnt2b:

Hey guys. I may be venturing into my first pinball. I found an F-14 Tomcat advertised for $1000. Playfield in good shape, backglass almost perfect, new rubber. Cabinet is a little crispy, and the owner says it doesn't play music. (Don't know about sound effects).
I'm asking for help in what I should be looking at when I go see it later today. I am not at all familiar with Williams Sys11.
Thanks guys. I'm pretty excited about it. Is $1000 reasonable do you think?
-J

That's pretty reasonable. Hard to go wrong with any System 11 for $1000 unless it's really trashed. Just be aware that you are probably going to put a few hundred into various parts and upgrades, and possibly need to send out a board to fix the sound if you can't fix it yourself. I'd probably try for a lower price if there is battery leakage though. Just my opinion.

#2229 3 hours ago

I agree if the play field looks good and has no acid or crazy hacks on the board I would go with it.

#2230 42 minutes ago

I hope to get the counter plug this week to complete the short upgrade on the PinLED-Board.
I did a change for the plug and put it upside down on the board.
Now it's more useable for the lock pad, it's a bit different to the built in plugs.

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