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F14 tomcat broken flipper

By Zero4199

5 years ago

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#1 5 years ago

ACE

Zero4199

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5y 17,900 75

The right upper flipper broke mechanically and electicly.

It was machine gun flipping.
Then it was working fine
Then it was dead.
I pushed it with my hand and it stuck up.
Then I pushed it down and the linkage broke like butter.
The broken flipper coil was very warm

I'd like to replace both if not all 4.
The top 2 are green label and the bottom 2 are red.
The top 2 seem way to strong. Lots of air balls.
Where do I buy parts?
Thanks

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#2 5 years ago

DAV

wayout440

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Berea, OH

11y 113K 11,264 3 12

Upper flipper coul FL11722
Lower flipper coil FL11630

https://www.marcospecialties.com/control/keywordsearch?SEARCH_STRING=Tomcat&S_CAT1=COILSFL

#3 5 years ago

ACE

Zero4199

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5y 17,900 75

Quoted from wayout440:
Upper flipper coul FL11722
Lower flipper coil FL11630
https://www.marcospecialties.com/control/keywordsearch?SEARCH_STRING=Tomcat&S_CAT1=COILSFL

Out of stock.
Any other suggestions?

#4 5 years ago

DEC

GRUMPY

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10y 95,050 8,699

OP
Quoted from Zero4199:
I'd like to replace both if not all 4.

Why?

OP
Quoted from Zero4199:
The top 2 are green label and the bottom 2 are red.

These are the correct coils.

OP
Quoted from Zero4199:
Lots of air balls.

Adjust the bats to be a bit higher.

#5 5 years ago

ACE

Zero4199

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5y 17,900 75

Ok thanks

Is game room guys a good place to buy?

#6 5 years ago

ACE

Zero4199

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5y 17,900 75

Do I have to get this whole set up to get the link?

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#7 5 years ago

ACE

Zero4199

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5y 17,900 75

I think these 2 parts should fix it

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#8 5 years ago

ACE

Zero4199

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5y 17,900 75

Ok, so I hooked up the wires wrong and blew a fuse.
I switched the wires and now the machine won't turn on.
I feel defeated...

#9 5 years ago

ACE

Zero4199

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5y 17,900 75

I have it hooked up right now according to my picture.
I ordered some fuses from pinball life

#10 5 years ago

DEC

GRUMPY

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OP
Quoted from Zero4199:
I have it hooked up right now according to my picture.
I ordered some fuses from pinball life

The diodes on the coil are shorted now, you need to replace them first then the fuse.

#11 5 years ago

ACE

Zero4199

Inactive member

5y 17,900 75

The left flipper has on diode the right has 2.
Is this normal?
Is there anything else I may have broke switching these wires? When I tried it, both upper flippers were not working before the main fuse blew
Thanks

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#12 5 years ago

TRB

Fifty

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OP
Quoted from Zero4199:
The left flipper has one diode the right has 2.
Is this normal?

No. They should all have 2 diodes.

#13 5 years ago

DEC

GRUMPY

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OP
Quoted from Zero4199:
The left flipper has on diode the right has 2.
Is this normal?

Not on parallel wound coils.

OP
Quoted from Zero4199:
Is there anything else I may have broke switching these wires?

Yes, but start with the easy things first. New diodes and a new fuse.

#14 5 years ago

ACE

Zero4199

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5y 17,900 75

I noticed the coil with one diode is not fully attached. Should this have 2 diodes?

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#15 5 years ago

TRB

Fifty

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9y 74,900 2,328

Yes. This will cause issues on the game. I had a broken diode on the bottom left flipper. Ball 1 would lock. Then ball 2 would lock, and then the game would kick both balls out into play starting a 2-ball multiball. It took months of troubleshooting until I found a broken diode similar to yours except mine was still in the solder hole.

#16 5 years ago

ACE

Zero4199

Inactive member

5y 17,900 75

Also found the flipper with th bad coil had a bent EOS contact.
What does the EOS do?

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#17 5 years ago

ACE

Zero4199

Inactive member

5y 17,900 75

I watched a video on EOS and now have an idea of how they work.
Now I know why the coil burned with high voltage when the flipper was held in.
My lower flipper EOS close when the flipper is flipped.
The upper flippers open when flipped.
Is this correct?

#18 5 years ago

DEC

GRUMPY

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10y 95,050 8,699

All four flippers should be the same. The EOS switch should be closed until the last 10 % of the bat travel. When in the up position there needs to be a 1\8 inch of a gap in between the EOS contacts.

#19 5 years ago

ACE

Zero4199

Inactive member

5y 17,900 75

The more I look around while I wait for parts, the more I see

Hot glued plastic coil parts.

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#20 5 years ago

ACE

Zero4199

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5y 17,900 75

Found this part in the cabinet

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#21 5 years ago

TRB

Fifty

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9y 74,900 2,328

This pin is a mess. I hope you didn't over pay for it.

In your last picture, that is a ceramic resistor. They fall off all the time in F-14. You can replace them with newer type ceramic resistors of equal values. The circuit board it fell off of is to help warm your flasher bulbs. It is not critical, but you should add it to your "to do" list.

#22 5 years ago

ACE

Zero4199

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5y 17,900 75

Oh, I definitely over paid.

#23 5 years ago

ACE

Zero4199

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5y 17,900 75

I got it.
Changed the diodes.
Changed the fuses.
Everything works.

My soldering of wires is ugly but solid.

Thank you very much

#24 5 years ago

DEC

GRUMPY

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10y 95,050 8,699

OP
Quoted from Zero4199:
My soldering of wires is ugly but solid.

Just like anything in life, practice makes perfect. Keep up the good work!

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