(Topic ID: 5185)

F14 New Display doesnt FIT! wth


By pinsrus

8 years ago



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#1 8 years ago

Wow, so I ordered new display board for the f14 to find out it doesn't fit. My old board has lamp sockets in it and come to find out that was the prototype board! Sigh, what to do now...

#2 8 years ago

So I talked to mike at mad amusements and he basically told me what I didn't want to hear but knew I would. Have to drill into the board and make new holes. Only problem with this is, Where the holes should go there are Traces! Great... Wish me luck

#3 8 years ago

Really? How come? Seems extreme..

#4 8 years ago

Apparently they don't make a replacement board for the prototype displays they used in some of the machines. I was lucky enough to get the prototype cabinet.

#5 8 years ago

Ok scratch that.. I have no idea what to do. The board doesn't even reach yo the bottom peg to drill a hole! And this board is a A-Hole! Stupid prototypes.

#6 8 years ago

The old display board had lamp sockets? Can you post a pic? I need to see it but why do you need the lamps there anyway? I am not sure but it sounds like you should just eliminate the sockets. Send pics so we can get a better idea.

#7 8 years ago

Perhaps try a customized mount. Certainly will detract from the original setup, but could be made to work.

A pin pcb board isn't much different than a computer motherboard. I'm willing to bet you can find a old computer case with a motherboard mount that you could attach to the pin and then use that to mount the pin board. With motherboard stand-offs, edge mounts, etc, I imagine a mount could be cobbled together fairly easily without having to drill the pin board. Just an idea

#8 8 years ago

Old board....new board

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#9 8 years ago

I've not seen what it is your talking about yet, but can you just redo (move) the mount positions to match the board holes???? I hope that is not a stupid question as I said I've not seen how it mounts, it just seemed to me you could repair the cabinate holes left behind from moving them easier than risking your board.....

#10 8 years ago

So WTH are the lamps mounted to, the board the speakers are mounted to? And if so what do they even do, light the inside of the backbox when you are playing? I am so confused.

Quoted from wizzardz:

Perhaps try a customized mount. Certainly will detract from the original setup, but could be made to work.

I would listen to this recommendation and either move the mounts you have, get some new ones, or bailing wire and duct tape work too... Its behind everything no one will know but you.

#11 8 years ago

Lol duct tape it is!

#12 8 years ago

Isn't there a insulating film in between this board and mount? If so, you will need to mod that as well???

#13 8 years ago

Can you take a pict of where the lamps light up the backglass? can you use it with out the socketed lamps?

I would just take two pieces of thin metal and extend the wholes down further - if that is the problem
but I think Im confused also:

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#14 8 years ago

So I opted to drill! And only use 2 screws versus the 4. Surgery was a success! One hole I thought I hit the trace line that's how close it was... Just plugged her in and its beautiful tear to my eye ha

#15 8 years ago

Risky business

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#17 8 years ago

Glad it worked out for ya . Now get to playin'!!!!~!

#18 8 years ago

BZ pinsrus!

#19 8 years ago

Thanks guys was sweating the whole time ha..

#20 8 years ago

Sometimes you just gotta go for it - nice work!

#22 8 years ago

Interesting....so I'm assuming the purpose of the lamp sockets in the proto board was to back lite the words: "Williams Pinball # in the World" on the Speaker Panel? Nice job on making the replacement display work!

#23 8 years ago

Just like a pro, nice work.

#24 8 years ago

I had a similar problem with my DE secret service, the Led displays didn't batch the translite so the whole thing had to be moved. At least it fitted in the end

#25 8 years ago

Ya not really sure the purpose of the non used lamp sockets but backlighting would make sense. I'm not sure the thinking behind using 2 different boards in production tho? What happen they got to number 543 and decided it wasn't a good idea.? Strange but non the less it can be replaced. Thanks everyone, and it was the duct tape idea that spawned only drilling the 2 holes

#26 8 years ago
Quoted from pinsrus:

Ya not really sure the purpose of the non used lamp sockets but backlighting would make sense. I'm not sure the thinking behind using 2 different boards in production tho? What happen they got to number 543 and decided it wasn't a good idea.?

My guess would be:

They had a run of the prototype style boards made, then they decide to scratch the light bulbs to save money "it looks fine without them", and so when they put the traces down, they don't include the traces to the lights. Then when the first however many boards run out, they have the next run made without the slots for the extra bulbs, to make the board smaller, and hence cost lower.

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