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F You Weir and your NIB flipping!

By WeirPinball

2 years ago


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    #130 2 years ago
    Quoted from Viggin900:

    The inflation rate since January is the biggest in 13 years. It's not prices going up gradualy and making up over the years.
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    You need to show the entire graph… not just the snippet. Our inflation rate is just a little higher than normal. Economists generally like to keep it at 3-4% (not saying you are doing anything purposely deceiving- just that a longer window is more helpful)
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    #236 2 years ago

    The market determines the price. It's that easy. Cost, inflation and all of that is a red herring.... Stern's costs could be through the roof, but if every distributors was carry massive stock.. they wouldn't/couldn't be pushing a price increase. Demand is always the ruling factor.

    I am still curious how this plays out going forward. Some distributors still have Led Zepplin Le's for sale. People might be willing to pay it for a new Elwin title.... but some of the other designers may not command the same premium.

    #237 2 years ago
    Quoted from drypaint:

    A 2 year routed game does not sell for the same as the HUO game that has 100 plays after 2 years. Especially with assholes death saving and rage tilting because they think pinball machines are public property. New Sterns today are averaging $1 per play and often $2/3 plays. Thats $0.67 per game with the bonus credit. I was paying under $6k for a pro just over a year ago. Now over $7k. Price per play has not changed yet.... But I am starting to hear chatter from other locations.
    Breaking even is business is not worth it. Not even close.
    What is the ceiling for throwing quarters into the machines on location before people stop coming in to our places?
    Its sad because the quality of these Stern machines is getting so bad. The new service button assemblies feel like dollar store plastic and don't work half the time. A real nuisance for us operators who need them often. Investing in buckets of coil stops and other basic parts that break prematurely ads to the cost as well.
    But... You have to always have the new stuff. Customers want the new.

    This is honestly the concerning part of the whole thing. The people caught in the middle who are keeping the hobby alive through location play. It seems like the business model needs to be tweaked. There is clearly demand of playing games, but would people be willing to pay $3 for 2 games? Entry fees might solve part of the problem for bigger sites ($20 to enter - games are $0.25 to play - just to keep the walk aways in line). I dunno... but I suspect their is a business model that will work. People want to play... and ownership is getting pricey.

    #500 2 years ago
    Quoted from turbo20lbs:

    $12,500 shipped to door for NIB TBL is looking cheaper and cheaper the past 6 months or so.

    Yep…. By the time it ships it may be considered a bargain. It is pretty close to the Stern Le’s now

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