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F You Weir and your NIB flipping!

By WeirPinball

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    #1251 86 days ago
    Quoted from SadSack:

    One thing to keep in mind is boomers can't bring their collections to the nursing homes or be buried with them. This is a cyclical thing. I can count the guys I know under 60 (other than ops) buying new games on one hand. This board may be an exception, but most people don't think buying $10k toys is much of a status symbol to be proud of. And when you keel over, your family is gonna want the cash from an auction if your buddies don't step in to rip them off. Sorry, boomers.. I know the truth hurts, but don't forget my name.

    I'm 23 and look forward to the days of $100 Addams Family machines albeit a bit depressing with the entire community gone and all the parts creators out of business. But I'll have one hell of a basement!

    Pinballing is going be frickin' weird in a few decades... sort of like the 90's again I presume, except even less desirable.

    I find it more depressing than gratifying though... I'd much rather an active community than ample amount of cheap games to buy.

    #1252 86 days ago
    Quoted from Gameseum:

    I'm 23 and look forward to the days of $100 Addams Family machines albeit a bit depressing with the entire community gone and all the parts creators out of business. But I'll have one hell of a basement!
    Pinballing is going be frickin' weird in a few decades... sort of like the 90's again I presume, except even less desirable.
    I find it more depressing than gratifying though... I'd much rather an active community than ample amount of cheap games to buy.

    I think in a few decades we'll be more concerned about the electric bill and if we have enough spare change to risk turning them on.

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    #1253 86 days ago
    Quoted from Gameseum:

    It'll be so exciting when it crashes because of how much more appreciation the games get now. Here's hoping one day one can get a TAF for $2500 while remembering the times they were $10000, with the appreciation of them being that same $10000

    People been saying the bubble will burst since before you were alive. Literally.

    Sorry man. Not happening.

    #1254 86 days ago
    Quoted from Gameseum:

    I'm 23 and look forward to the days of $100 Addams Family machines albeit a bit depressing with the entire community gone and all the parts creators out of business. But I'll have one hell of a basement!
    Pinballing is going be frickin' weird in a few decades... sort of like the 90's again I presume, except even less desirable.
    I find it more depressing than gratifying though... I'd much rather an active community than ample amount of cheap games to buy.

    People like them, so I doubt they'll get that cheap. Maybe some of the old OPs that were around for the clearance liquidations in the 90's can chime in. The bigger problem (as you mention) will be spare parts if the prices do fall through the basement. Just 15 years ago my local e-recycler brought 5 Wiliams games to the dump because he couldn't find anyone to make them work. I met him a year late. The sad thing is the manufacturers probably will blow their current windfalls and belly-up during the down cycle. C'est la vie.

    #1255 86 days ago

    The bubble keeps getting BIGGER and BIGGER with each new game release.

    #1256 86 days ago
    Quoted from CrazyLevi:

    People been saying the bubble will burst since before you were alive. Literally.
    Sorry man. Not happening.

    I'm well aware in the next 30 years, but I'm talking extremely long term (40-50 years) about when I'm the age of most people in the EM section here, the community is dead figuratively and literally, and pinballs are like Hummels most of your grandkids are trying to get out of the garage most via sledgehammer.

    Pinball in 50 years is going to be extremely dystopian. I pray that's not the reality but I don't see my generation picking it up let alone the next ones... and that's questioning playing on location, let alone owning. I think location play will still be a thing but dedicated collectors may be a stretch by that point

    50 years from now I will be 73 and I would be entirely surprised if an Addams Family pinball machine (79 years old then) has any value let alone a skyrocketed one

    #1257 86 days ago
    Quoted from Gameseum:

    I'm well aware in the next 30 years, but I'm talking extremely long term (40-50 years) about when I'm the age of most people in the EM section here, the community is dead figuratively and literally, and pinballs are like Hummels most of your grandkids are trying to get out of the garage most via sledgehammer.
    Pinball in 50 years is going to be extremely dystopian. I pray that's not the reality but I don't see my generation picking it up let alone the next ones... and that's questioning playing on location, let alone owning. I think location play will still be a thing but dedicated collectors may be a stretch by that point

    I wouldn't be so sure about that. Culturally, humans like to collect/repair old things decades/centuries old. Maybe it will be niche, but then, it's always been niche.

    #1258 86 days ago

    It'll be me, mbaumle, and @MisterMoberg saving 50 CFTBLs from going to the junkyard and having a beer in your honor Levi. Calling it right now.

    (I'm going to stop now before I throw myself into an existential crisis. Pinball in 50 years sure may be lonely. DEPRESSING)

    #1259 86 days ago
    Quoted from Zablon:

    I wouldn't be so sure about that. Culturally, humans like to collect/repair old things decades/centuries old. Maybe it will be niche, but then, it's always been niche.

    I guess so, but it's pre-war pins level of "antique" collectors comparatively. Those things were worth some good money before that community died off (literally) and now they have value to anybody who can appreciate them but it is few and far between. Antique collectors are way more into them then genuine pinball guys, but the pinball guys are what keep the hobby and numbers alive.

    Plus there are several thousand TAF floating around so they won't be worth anything from a "rare antique" perspective, just a pinball perspective

    #1260 86 days ago

    Bubble or not. Only you can prevent Forest Fires .
    Just say no to NIB!

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    #1261 86 days ago
    Quoted from Gameseum:

    50 years from now I will be 73 and I would be entirely surprised if an Addams Family pinball machine (79 years old then) has any value let alone a skyrocketed one

    The Addams family animated movies are popular with kids right now.
    My kid is into big band LPs.
    Who knows, it is all cyclical.
    Nothing is set in stone.

    #1262 86 days ago

    Must be real busy again today at that super duper arcade, huh? Shouldn't you be tending to your 100's of customers instead of scrolling online, stirring crap up, again?

    Quoted from Gameseum:

    Same goes for your [Removed] buddy Electrocute. Y'all got me laughing. [quoted image]

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    #1263 86 days ago
    Quoted from DadofTwins:

    Must be real busy again today at that super duper arcade, huh? Shouldn't you be tending to your 100's of customers instead of scrolling online, stirring crap up, again?

    Made 20 grand this month, figured I deserved to treat myself to a little poking of Electrocute and DadOfTwins... a little R&R relaxation. Nobody else is bothered but you children

    #1264 86 days ago
    Quoted from Gameseum:Your random uncalled for off-topic insults for some 5+ year old grudge are lame as is but they are even worse when you have so little material that a kindergartener could do better
    Get a life you are boring me Imagine following somebody around on Pinside to downvotes posts and post stupid replies lmao

    Relax Otaku!

    #1265 86 days ago
    Quoted from WeirPinball:

    This requires some clarification - IF it is in stock now, it should be the lower price -
    ANY title built after the new year new price.

    That’s what it is. But you also have to remember that distros are only held to MAP. They can charge 100k per game if they want. Trent’s prices always go up when he knows he can’t get more of a certain game.

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    #1266 85 days ago
    Quoted from Gameseum:

    Same goes for your [Removed] buddy Electrocute. Y'all got me laughing.

    Wow dude… you seem like a really amazing person!

    I love free speech - nothing better than knowing exactly where to (not ever) spend my time and money.

    #1267 85 days ago

    Different year, same Otaku.

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    #1268 85 days ago

    F- this whole hobbie

    #1269 85 days ago
    Quoted from msj2222:

    F- this whole hobbie

    Hobby?

    #1270 85 days ago
    Quoted from chuckwurt:

    That’s what it is. But you also have to remember that distros are only held to MAP. They can charge 100k per game if they want. Trent’s prices always go up when he knows he can’t get more of a certain game.

    They go up the less he has in stock

    #1271 84 days ago

    If Apple lowering production#s for the new iphone, I think shits about t

    Quoted from Gameseum:

    Anywhere I'm seeing with older Stern stock has already upped the price (even without insider connect kits)
    I don't think this was a Stern directive, just the ability to price gouge now that this is the direction things are going

    While I appreciate your sentiment, you can't price gouge a toy.

    #1272 84 days ago
    Quoted from Roostking:

    If Apple lowering production#s for the new iphone, I think shits about t

    While I appreciate your sentiment, you can't price gouge a toy.

    Funny, you seem to think that you can when regarding your gas hog You do realize that's a toy and unnecessary, and that those are companies too. Just out to make money, as much as they can.

    #1273 83 days ago

    Stern is making hay while the sun shines.. but, as always, winter is coming.

    #1274 83 days ago
    Quoted from CrazyLevi:

    People been saying the bubble will burst since before you were alive. Literally.
    Sorry man. Not happening.

    No shit... I can remember in 2011 or so when prices started climbing people saying that and machines were cheap back then.

    I had someone offer me not one but 3 AFMs that needed some work and they were under 3k each. I passed... too expensive at the time.

    #1275 83 days ago
    Quoted from SadSack:

    Stern is making hay while the sun shines.. but, as always, winter is coming.

    Doesn't appear to be...

    #1276 83 days ago
    Quoted from 27dnast:

    Doesn't appear to be...

    It never does until it already has.

    #1277 83 days ago
    Quoted from Zablon:

    Funny, you seem to think that you can when regarding your gas hog You do realize that's a toy and unnecessary, and that those are companies too. Just out to make money, as much as they can.

    What, gas isn't essential? And when we know WHY prices have gone up, it's even more bullshit. Stern didn't shut down lines in an effort to create a shortage. Obviously we know people that did with oil.

    #1278 83 days ago
    Quoted from Roostking:

    What, gas isn't essential? And when we know WHY prices have gone up, it's even more bullshit. Stern didn't shut down lines in an effort to create a shortage. Obviously we know people that did with oil.

    Gas isn't essential in the way that other things are. And gas guzzlers certainly aren't and are indeed as much of a luxury as pinball. Don't get me wrong, I drive a truck and I complain about gas prices too, but gas and oil is constantly manipulated, and it is way beyond what you are blaming it on. Ask the Russians last year: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2020_Russia%E2%80%93Saudi_Arabia_oil_price_war

    Pinball is at that weird stage where you would think there's too much competition, but the companies still don't seem to produce enough to meet demand. Resales continue to go up, and people continue to pay for it. It's quite an interesting time. While I complain about the price of pins too...at the same time I find it kind of cool that something I've been (felt) alone in being into for decades is huge again. At some point demand will eventually come back down, we just don't have a clue if it will be in 5 months, 5 years, 5 decades....or maybe they will magically always be sought after, and when they bury us with them, graverobbers will dig them up.

    #1279 82 days ago
    Quoted from Zablon:

    ... gas and oil is constantly manipulated, and it is way beyond what you are blaming it on....

    Very true, but a good domestic production capacity can negate foreign manipulation's effect on prices

    #1280 82 days ago

    Gas was almost 5 a gallon a few years ago. then dropped then up. it is speculative and only makes Oil Barrons Richer / they get bonuses of an amount of money the common middle class worker has to work 5 years for. That is just the bonus..lol
    Gas does not need to be that high , But again . Can charge what they want / GREED until People start to _(*&&^

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    #1281 82 days ago

    You know what, I'm starting to change my tune on this. In part of these NIB increases, I sold my Shadow for 64% more than what I bought it for. Buyer is happy, and I am certainly happy - it is a win-win!

    For those of us trimming collections down of games we haven't played in months and realizing it is ok to let a few go, man, thank you Stern and JJP....and those in the hobby buying and selling at these prices! My only regret is I don't have like 30 more games to sell.

    #1282 82 days ago

    How dare you sell at current market value. Spending all those earnings at Pincinnati I hope?

    #1283 82 days ago
    Quoted from BMore-Pinball:

    Very true, but a good domestic production capacity can negate foreign manipulation's effect on prices

    The whole idea is to keep ours until everyone else runs out, so they can charge as much as they want. At least, in the long game. What really happens is every decade or so they say 'omg we're almost out of oil' to get the prices back up.

    #1284 82 days ago
    Quoted from chuckwurt:

    How dare you sell at current market value. Spending all those earnings at Pincinnati I hope?

    I'll be there, Mister!!

    #1285 82 days ago

    FU Stern and your.....QR scanner - not everybody is into connecting a machine to the internet and making an account - already have people asking how to turn it off on GZ...

    #1286 82 days ago
    Quoted from WeirPinball:

    FU Stern and your.....QR scanner - not everybody is into connecting a machine to the internet and making an account - already have people asking how to turn it off on GZ...

    Good call!

    Nobody has whined about the scanner yet.

    #1287 82 days ago
    Quoted from Zablon:

    Gas isn't essential in the way that other things are. And gas guzzlers certainly aren't and are indeed as much of a luxury as pinball. Don't get me wrong, I drive a truck and I complain about gas prices too, but gas and oil is constantly manipulated, and it is way beyond what you are blaming it on. Ask the Russians last year: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2020_Russia%E2%80%93Saudi_Arabia_oil_price_war
    Pinball is at that weird stage where you would think there's too much competition, but the companies still don't seem to produce enough to meet demand. Resales continue to go up, and people continue to pay for it. It's quite an interesting time. While I complain about the price of pins too...at the same time I find it kind of cool that something I've been (felt) alone in being into for decades is huge again. At some point demand will eventually come back down, we just don't have a clue if it will be in 5 months, 5 years, 5 decades....or maybe they will magically always be sought after, and when they bury us with them, graverobbers will dig them up.

    Your crazy. If gas isn't needed to get people to work so they can pay the bills and have a roof over their head, I don't know what is. Me? I can mostly work from home, but for those with no training or need to be onsite daily, it absolutely can cripple their lively hood after it rises 50%, IN 9 months...

    #1288 82 days ago
    Quoted from WeirPinball:

    FU Stern and your.....QR scanner - not everybody is into connecting a machine to the internet and making an account - already have people asking how to turn it off on GZ...

    Thought I would hate it… was ready to disconnect it on arrival. Then I used it… and it was cool.

    #1289 80 days ago

    Waaaaaa F you inflation. Waaaaaaaaa

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    #1290 80 days ago
    Quoted from WackyBrakke:

    Waaaaaa F you inflation. Waaaaaaaaa

    Inflation hurts the poor far more than you or I, have some heart for those already struggling. Thanks.

    #1291 80 days ago

    Pinside is a literal cesspool now

    #1294 80 days ago

    Dudes on the Big Green Egg forum are complaining about steak and seafood prices. Through the roof. I'm also on a Land Cruiser forum, but most everyone there just drives theirs forever, so new prices/availability doesn't matter.

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    #1295 79 days ago

    In the words of Douglas Quaid F YOUUUUUUUUUUUUU

    #1296 79 days ago

    So... just a bunch of whiny old fat whiteys arguing... move along nothing to see here

    #1297 79 days ago
    Quoted from acedanger:

    So... just a bunch of whiny old fat whiteys arguing... move along nothing to see here

    Heeeey! I'm not whiney!

    #1298 79 days ago

    I’m not fat

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    #1299 58 days ago

    Yo momma said you Husky.

    #1300 58 days ago
    Quoted from dsmoke1986:

    Pinside is a literal cesspool now

    Pinside just requires the occasional pool maintenance. Cesspool? Not even close. Seen soooo much worse elsewhere.

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