(Topic ID: 172113)

F-14 resto

By heni1977

4 years ago


Topic Heartbeat

Topic Stats

  • 327 posts
  • 33 Pinsiders participating
  • Latest reply 3 months ago by heni1977
  • Topic is favorited by 40 Pinsiders

You

Linked Games

Topic Gallery

View topic image gallery

6E22201A-3A91-492A-A42D-11B59B1214DF (resized).jpeg
AA8AEDBD-2B44-4FDD-B13D-3CC2A57FC868 (resized).jpeg
569789D3-BCB4-4581-BC1D-BA5BEABBA6E0 (resized).jpeg
569789D3-BCB4-4581-BC1D-BA5BEABBA6E0 (resized).jpeg
Screenshot_20201202-173326 (resized).png
51EC20C1-30B8-4600-8432-AFFF066C8FE1 (resized).jpeg
F11E4F35-B119-4F5F-987B-37DC9F55CAAA (resized).jpeg
9F51E75A-80CB-4B6C-9067-C85C65019A30 (resized).jpeg
817A3368-CDF3-46C0-A528-00321E79A670 (resized).jpeg
CC3EE55B-234E-463A-AC89-FAEEC856EEE9 (resized).jpeg
BA14088C-10B4-4577-8D27-C31E446717AA (resized).jpeg
0A9013AD-685F-47EF-9D53-0436714EB31E (resized).jpeg
3163E9CC-E718-4959-8EF9-7F6EF0D03ADA (resized).jpeg
78E8BADA-E481-4BA4-BE6A-1EBEB691A899 (resized).jpeg
47232B53-3116-4BA8-8B8D-E87B2D31DF99 (resized).jpeg
19E25C7B-7F6A-4D2C-AFA3-79E16E69B010 (resized).jpeg

There are 327 posts in this topic. You are on page 6 of 7.
#251 2 years ago

Nice towel!!! I haven't seen one like that for fifty years.

#252 2 years ago

Hahaha, I honestly don’t know where it came from.

#253 2 years ago

Did you get the diverter off yet? Do you think you can repair it? Or are you going to replace it?

#254 2 years ago

Replace it! Cut the bent end off. Will order a new one.

#255 2 years ago

Yep, chillin to Pink Floyd! Working on some plastics!
Notice the new diverter.

A6C680D0-DB08-4972-A512-63B73D1997D7 (resized).jpeg
#256 2 years ago
Quoted from heni1977:

Notice the new diverter?

Yep, they are getting hard to find. If you were not able to find one for sale I was going to send you my spare.
Keep marching forward!

1 week later
#257 2 years ago

Wife went out with the ladies from work. So I am working on putting diverter back together.
Also got a tumbler and did most of pf parts and lots of screws.

#258 2 years ago

Done.

8ADE341F-843D-4E02-8B39-39CEE65F94CE (resized).jpeg
1 month later
#259 2 years ago

Ok in it goes!
The one relay board concerns me with the solder covering two traces like that.
Anybody think the same?

3EA3C255-AD24-472B-8828-5E0C0953F749 (resized).jpeg812E704C-F1B9-4D3D-B521-AC0280AD909F (resized).jpegD2DF239A-DA0B-4885-AFE1-136D79B903BD (resized).jpeg
#260 2 years ago

That's the A/C select Relay, those are supposed to be soldered together.

#261 2 years ago

Yikes!

#262 2 years ago

Ok,Thanks! Was wondering never seen anything like it before.

#263 2 years ago

Worked great!

1A818641-79B4-4BB3-A0AE-A58A214A5AA7 (resized).jpegCF16E88D-58C8-4776-952B-301735E18DD3 (resized).jpeg
#264 2 years ago

Want to test these and make sure they work. Is it possible to do this?
Where would be the best place to get replacement relay cubes if need be?
They seem to be very expensive on Marcos site.

67C97AAA-DDDD-48B9-86B6-11F0889D04F3 (resized).jpeg
#265 2 years ago

I replaced the capacitors and resistors on mine. The 1/4 watt resistors on every single one of mine were fried extra crispy. My capacitors were originally radial as opposed to the axial type you have. Here’s the thread I read through when I rebuilt mine:

https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/f14-snubber-board-resistor-value

The pic is of one of my boards after the upgrades.

Edit: That’s a 2-watt flame proof resistor as KenLayton suggested using.

8216FA6A-16FC-46F1-A9C4-7BCF977CB58C (resized).jpeg

#266 2 years ago

Ok, so what i remember about capacitors one leg is longer noting the pos or neg of cap. Is that correct?
Does it matter on this type of board?
What is the resistor and cap part #? I will probably order from great plains. Should I replace the 24V cubes as well?
The one noted by chipleader is a ac select, what does it operate?

#267 2 years ago
Quoted from heni1977:

Want to test these and make sure they work. Is it possible to do this?
Where would be the best place to get replacement relay cubes if need be?
They seem to be very expensive on Marcos site.
[quoted image]

In this pic you have 6 snubber and 1 AC relay. Do not add the cap and resistor to the AC relay as it is not needed and will do damage to the board. I have only seen one relay go bad and it was a GI relay at that, so I wouldn't replace the relays. Now I have seen many problems with the relay boards in general, so rebuilding them is a must. The number one issue is melted header pins but since there is no GI relays in F -14 this is of no concern. The next issue is cracked solder joints on the relay pins, remove and replace the solder and they will be good for another 25 years. Last big issue is the resistors on the snubber relays were a bit undersized so when replacing use a 2 watt version and you will be good.

#268 2 years ago
Quoted from heni1977:

Ok, so what i remember about capacitors one leg is longer noting the pos or neg of cap. Is that correct?
Does it matter on this type of board?
What is the resistor and cap part #? I will probably order from great plains. Should I replace the 12v cubes as well?
I am guessing these are all GI pcb's? The one noted by chipleader is a ac select, what does it operate?

Yes there is a logner lead which is the positive. Most also have a stripe with arrows pointing to the negative lead. And yes it very important to install any electrolytic caps in the correct orientation otherwise they will explode.
I think the resistors needed are 150 ohm 2 watt.
The relays are 24 volt DC relays not 12 volt.
The GI relay is on your power supply, these are snubber relays and one AC relay and are not interchangeable which out some some modifications. The AC relay allows the CPU board to control 16 separate circuits with only 8 control transistors. This is why the first 8 solenoid circuits are labeled 1 a and the 1 c and so on. The a side is usually 50 volt circuits and the c side is usually 25 volt circuits.

#269 2 years ago

Ok, will follow advice on changing the caps and resistors only.
@cletus14 do you have the part numbers for these and where you got them?
I will de solder a board tonight and see if I can tell which leg of cap goes were.

#270 2 years ago
Quoted from heni1977:

I will de solder a board tonight and see if I can tell which leg of cap goes were.

The board is marked with a plus symbol for the correct orientation.

#273 2 years ago
Quoted from GRUMPY:

Yes they are right, but don't forget some new diodes too. Use some 1n4007.

I’m not sure where I got the parts. I did this a couple of years ago when I first got my machine. I can look.

Are diodes something that typically goes bad. I guess I should do some more soldering. GRUMPY you’re always adding to my to do list.

#274 2 years ago

No the diodes don't go bad very often, but if you have the board removed you might as well change them.

#275 2 years ago

Sweet, I got some of those diodes bought extras last time!

#276 2 years ago

I ordered my caps and resistors from NTE electronics as they had both in stock. I ordered 20 each because I like to have extras, you never know when you will need them. Plus my buddy has a F-14 and his could use them too!

#277 2 years ago
Quoted from heni1977:

The little set of rivets came from pinrestore which I think is closing

NOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I love PinRestore! Even bought one of their in-house made rivet presses!!
NOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

1 week later
#278 2 years ago

GRUMPY what do you think of this?
amazon.com link »

#279 2 years ago

I have never seen that brand before so I am just going by what I read in the ad. Has everything it should have and 85% of the reviews liked it. Its cheap for sure. Time will tell if it was going to last. But how long does it need to last for a 130.00 dollars. Your call on this, its your money.

#280 2 years ago

I went for it. Will post on its usability. I did see the good reviews and watched a couple youtubes on it. A little noisy but what can you expect at that price. I really needed something though, the old desoldering pump had to go!! Will still work for some things and great for a small tool to have in tool box. But for circuit boards it is a must. Quicker and won't have as much worry about lifting traces.

#281 2 years ago
Quoted from heni1977:

Quicker and won't have as much worry about lifting traces.

Not true, if used incorrectly these will lift traces in a heart beat. Always heat the lead and not the trace and you will be fine.

1 week later
#282 2 years ago

Rebuilding snubbed boards. Desolder gun works well, but will bump it to 700 next time. Feel more confident now with it, And per GRUMPY.Going to rebuild my buddy’s PS and install a nvram on his F-14 eventually.

4C935E8C-287A-4EEF-81E6-D7DFC70F12DC (resized).jpegimage (resized).jpg
3 weeks later
#283 2 years ago

When the work shop doubles as a board shop! F$&@ Yeah!
Happy New Years you filthy animals!

0D1D8ECE-4E66-47E6-96CF-C0B64C0D6B17 (resized).jpeg
1 month later
#284 2 years ago

While waiting for my pf to return, I went ahead and upgraded my rotisserie.
Now it’s convertible from rotisserie to snowboard waxing bench!

#285 2 years ago
AD780152-2BEB-40CA-8CEE-C558F1A64D2C (resized).jpeg
2 weeks later
#286 2 years ago

Been a little while so I thought I would update.
@cletus14 is now way ahead of me and looking Awesome! I will be hitting him up when I get pf back and start on it.
I installed the blue display from xpin and could not be happier!!!
Wife loves to snowboard and I don’t argue with that. So our final trip for the season is next week. Boards are waxed and ready to shred!
First time to park city, Utah.
This pic is in Breckenridge, CO
highest skiable peak in North America!
13,000ft

282B256F-4A90-453D-9BE8-5221BFD94ABB (resized).jpeg8A3C670D-2C0A-40F7-82A6-4AE429CD311C (resized).jpegF1020327-E937-4E6B-AF9A-EA0B513F0707 (resized).jpegEE25E86B-CE44-4A3B-87CF-1878BB894716 (resized).jpeg
#287 2 years ago

That blue is awesome. I have been following your resto along with cletus14 's. I guess I'm third in line on my F-14 rebuild. Funny how you say "I've come this far, might as well keep going deeper" when you get into getting a game fixed up.

#288 2 years ago

I wish I could stand on skis or a snowboard. I tried skiing for the first time in January. Total disaster. I guess I had to be a complete failure at something.
When is your playfield going to be ready, already!

#289 2 years ago

Hahaha! Yeah watched my bro in laws x girl, cartwheel about 10 times trying to ski. Was not good!!!
I am hoping soon. But patience is key and I am sure it will be Awesome!!!

7 months later
#290 1 year ago

Well it has been awhile but don't count me out! I heard good news today that the last coat of clear went down well and once dry it will be ready for polish!
Dang shame, though that pinside says I am reviving a old thread

#291 1 year ago

Yes! Finally!
I’m almost ready to do my second restoration on my F-14.

#292 1 year ago
Quoted from cletus:

Yes! Finally!
I’m almost ready to do my second restoration on my F-14.

?

#293 1 year ago

Just poking fun at Heni’s expense.

#294 1 year ago

We never lost faith in you.

#295 1 year ago
Quoted from cletus:

Yes! Finally!

Twist the knife why don't ya!

3 months later
#296 1 year ago

Being patient can sometimes drive you bonkers!! But it will be well worth it. Should have my pf back by march it is waiting for final buff.
It will be a good winter time rebuild as for the warm months I will be working my back yard project. Which will probably kill me before it is done!

#297 1 year ago

As you can see, I let no one in my house relax
But then again she loves to help with hard work!

C39D0D30-956A-4E59-9FAF-5DE7432BC4DA (resized).jpeg83F9D302-9A2B-45E7-B5DE-64592E35A643 (resized).jpeg07568952-825B-45BF-A38B-33448F9D08EE (resized).jpeg9A4639C5-287D-4A2A-B9C6-7C8314F38C4C (resized).jpeg26E457BA-81A1-4A93-99E8-491A5961E415 (resized).jpeg3DF305D5-1DBA-4105-8A20-7F43B370378F (resized).jpegCF3125DD-2E11-4F15-AE28-FD736A0368F9 (resized).jpeg
#298 1 year ago

Looks.like you are using versalok standards for your retaining wall. I have several walls built out out of these, they work great. Your work looks top knotch!

#299 1 year ago

Thank's, and yes versa lok. Heavy, but better and stronger then other brands!

#300 1 year ago

I did my window wells and my back patio in landscaping blocks. Lots of hard work, but we'll worth it.

There are 327 posts in this topic. You are on page 6 of 7.

Hey there! Got a moment?

Great to see you're enjoying Pinside! Did you know Pinside is able to run thanks to donations from our visitors? Please donate to Pinside, support the site and get anext to your username to show for it! Donate to Pinside