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F-14 resto


By heni1977

3 years ago



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#251 1 year ago

Nice towel!!! I haven't seen one like that for fifty years.

#252 1 year ago

Hahaha, I honestly don’t know where it came from.

#253 1 year ago

Did you get the diverter off yet? Do you think you can repair it? Or are you going to replace it?

#254 1 year ago

Replace it! Cut the bent end off. Will order a new one.

#255 1 year ago

Yep, chillin to Pink Floyd! Working on some plastics!
Notice the new diverter.

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#256 1 year ago
Quoted from heni1977:

Notice the new diverter?

Yep, they are getting hard to find. If you were not able to find one for sale I was going to send you my spare.
Keep marching forward!

1 week later
#257 1 year ago

Wife went out with the ladies from work. So I am working on putting diverter back together.
Also got a tumbler and did most of pf parts and lots of screws.

#258 1 year ago

Done.

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#259 1 year ago

Ok in it goes!
The one relay board concerns me with the solder covering two traces like that.
Anybody think the same?

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#260 1 year ago

That's the A/C select Relay, those are supposed to be soldered together.

#261 1 year ago

Yikes!

#262 1 year ago

Ok,Thanks! Was wondering never seen anything like it before.

#263 1 year ago

Worked great!

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#264 1 year ago

Want to test these and make sure they work. Is it possible to do this?
Where would be the best place to get replacement relay cubes if need be?
They seem to be very expensive on Marcos site.

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#265 1 year ago

I replaced the capacitors and resistors on mine. The 1/4 watt resistors on every single one of mine were fried extra crispy. My capacitors were originally radial as opposed to the axial type you have. Here’s the thread I read through when I rebuilt mine:

https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/f14-snubber-board-resistor-value

The pic is of one of my boards after the upgrades.

Edit: That’s a 2-watt flame proof resistor as kenlayton suggested using.

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#266 1 year ago

Ok, so what i remember about capacitors one leg is longer noting the pos or neg of cap. Is that correct?
Does it matter on this type of board?
What is the resistor and cap part #? I will probably order from great plains. Should I replace the 24V cubes as well?
The one noted by chipleader is a ac select, what does it operate?

#267 1 year ago
Quoted from heni1977:

Want to test these and make sure they work. Is it possible to do this?
Where would be the best place to get replacement relay cubes if need be?
They seem to be very expensive on Marcos site.
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In this pic you have 6 snubber and 1 AC relay. Do not add the cap and resistor to the AC relay as it is not needed and will do damage to the board. I have only seen one relay go bad and it was a GI relay at that, so I wouldn't replace the relays. Now I have seen many problems with the relay boards in general, so rebuilding them is a must. The number one issue is melted header pins but since there is no GI relays in F -14 this is of no concern. The next issue is cracked solder joints on the relay pins, remove and replace the solder and they will be good for another 25 years. Last big issue is the resistors on the snubber relays were a bit undersized so when replacing use a 2 watt version and you will be good.

#268 1 year ago
Quoted from heni1977:

Ok, so what i remember about capacitors one leg is longer noting the pos or neg of cap. Is that correct?
Does it matter on this type of board?
What is the resistor and cap part #? I will probably order from great plains. Should I replace the 12v cubes as well?
I am guessing these are all GI pcb's? The one noted by chipleader is a ac select, what does it operate?

Yes there is a logner lead which is the positive. Most also have a stripe with arrows pointing to the negative lead. And yes it very important to install any electrolytic caps in the correct orientation otherwise they will explode.
I think the resistors needed are 150 ohm 2 watt.
The relays are 24 volt DC relays not 12 volt.
The GI relay is on your power supply, these are snubber relays and one AC relay and are not interchangeable which out some some modifications. The AC relay allows the CPU board to control 16 separate circuits with only 8 control transistors. This is why the first 8 solenoid circuits are labeled 1 a and the 1 c and so on. The a side is usually 50 volt circuits and the c side is usually 25 volt circuits.

#269 1 year ago

Ok, will follow advice on changing the caps and resistors only.
@cletus14 do you have the part numbers for these and where you got them?
I will de solder a board tonight and see if I can tell which leg of cap goes were.

#270 1 year ago
Quoted from heni1977:

I will de solder a board tonight and see if I can tell which leg of cap goes were.

The board is marked with a plus symbol for the correct orientation.

#273 1 year ago
Quoted from GRUMPY:

Yes they are right, but don't forget some new diodes too. Use some 1n4007.

I’m not sure where I got the parts. I did this a couple of years ago when I first got my machine. I can look.

Are diodes something that typically goes bad. I guess I should do some more soldering. grumpy you’re always adding to my to do list.

#274 1 year ago

No the diodes don't go bad very often, but if you have the board removed you might as well change them.

#275 1 year ago

Sweet, I got some of those diodes bought extras last time!

#276 1 year ago

I ordered my caps and resistors from NTE electronics as they had both in stock. I ordered 20 each because I like to have extras, you never know when you will need them. Plus my buddy has a F-14 and his could use them too!

#277 1 year ago
Quoted from heni1977:

The little set of rivets came from pinrestore which I think is closing

NOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I love PinRestore! Even bought one of their in-house made rivet presses!!
NOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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#278 1 year ago

grumpy what do you think of this?
amazon.com link »

#279 1 year ago

I have never seen that brand before so I am just going by what I read in the ad. Has everything it should have and 85% of the reviews liked it. Its cheap for sure. Time will tell if it was going to last. But how long does it need to last for a 130.00 dollars. Your call on this, its your money.

#280 1 year ago

I went for it. Will post on its usability. I did see the good reviews and watched a couple youtubes on it. A little noisy but what can you expect at that price. I really needed something though, the old desoldering pump had to go!! Will still work for some things and great for a small tool to have in tool box. But for circuit boards it is a must. Quicker and won't have as much worry about lifting traces.

#281 1 year ago
Quoted from heni1977:

Quicker and won't have as much worry about lifting traces.

Not true, if used incorrectly these will lift traces in a heart beat. Always heat the lead and not the trace and you will be fine.

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#282 1 year ago

Rebuilding snubbed boards. Desolder gun works well, but will bump it to 700 next time. Feel more confident now with it, And per grumpy.Going to rebuild my buddy’s PS and install a nvram on his F-14 eventually.

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#283 1 year ago

When the work shop doubles as a board shop! F$&@ Yeah!
Happy New Years you filthy animals!

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#284 1 year ago

While waiting for my pf to return, I went ahead and upgraded my rotisserie.
Now it’s convertible from rotisserie to snowboard waxing bench!

#285 1 year ago
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#286 1 year ago

Been a little while so I thought I would update.
@cletus14 is now way ahead of me and looking Awesome! I will be hitting him up when I get pf back and start on it.
I installed the blue display from xpin and could not be happier!!!
Wife loves to snowboard and I don’t argue with that. So our final trip for the season is next week. Boards are waxed and ready to shred!
First time to park city, Utah.
This pic is in Breckenridge, CO
highest skiable peak in North America!
13,000ft

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#287 1 year ago

That blue is awesome. I have been following your resto along with cletus14 's. I guess I'm third in line on my F-14 rebuild. Funny how you say "I've come this far, might as well keep going deeper" when you get into getting a game fixed up.

#288 1 year ago

I wish I could stand on skis or a snowboard. I tried skiing for the first time in January. Total disaster. I guess I had to be a complete failure at something.
When is your playfield going to be ready, already!

#289 1 year ago

Hahaha! Yeah watched my bro in laws x girl, cartwheel about 10 times trying to ski. Was not good!!!
I am hoping soon. But patience is key and I am sure it will be Awesome!!!

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#290 9 months ago

Well it has been awhile but don't count me out! I heard good news today that the last coat of clear went down well and once dry it will be ready for polish!
Dang shame, though that pinside says I am reviving a old thread

#291 9 months ago

Yes! Finally!
I’m almost ready to do my second restoration on my F-14.

#292 9 months ago
Quoted from cletus:

Yes! Finally!
I’m almost ready to do my second restoration on my F-14.

?

#293 9 months ago

Just poking fun at Heni’s expense.

#294 9 months ago

We never lost faith in you.

#295 9 months ago
Quoted from cletus:

Yes! Finally!

Twist the knife why don't ya!

3 months later
#296 6 months ago

Being patient can sometimes drive you bonkers!! But it will be well worth it. Should have my pf back by march it is waiting for final buff.
It will be a good winter time rebuild as for the warm months I will be working my back yard project. Which will probably kill me before it is done!

#297 6 months ago

As you can see, I let no one in my house relax
But then again she loves to help with hard work!

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#298 6 months ago

Looks.like you are using versalok standards for your retaining wall. I have several walls built out out of these, they work great. Your work looks top knotch!

#299 6 months ago

Thank's, and yes versa lok. Heavy, but better and stronger then other brands!

#300 6 months ago

I did my window wells and my back patio in landscaping blocks. Lots of hard work, but we'll worth it.

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