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External subwoofer sound issue (JJP Wonka)

By SDpinballer

2 years ago


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#1 2 years ago

This is my Wonka set up for sound. It’s worked well for over a year or two. Recently, the sound on the entire machine will intermittently cut out; come back on for a 10-15 seconds then cut out for a 10-15 seconds. It will keep cycling like that. If I unhook the external sub input wires, by disconnecting the alligator clips, the problem goes away (but then of course I don’t have subwoofer sound). In addition, I’m not sure if this is supposed to happen - but when I was unhooking the alligator clips while the game and the amplifier/subwoofer were on, there was enough current in the wire to spark (as I was physically removing the wire from the terminal). So right now, just playing the machine stock, and would like to hook the subwoofer back up and have it work correctly. I have tried several times and it keeps on doing it cycle on and off thing. Any advice would be appreciated!

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#3 2 years ago
Quoted from titanpenguin:

I'd bet the external amp is fried, causing it to overdrawn the stock system.

I was thinking that might be the case. Any idea how to test that? In the meantime, I’m going to take the amp apart and look at it.

#5 2 years ago
Quoted from titanpenguin:

Not familiar with the amp, but the fact that if you remove it from the system it fixes the issue, I'd say it's a safe bet

Thanks! I agree. I’ll post the process and solution.

#6 2 years ago

The amp board looks pretty good I guess. There is some corrosion on the underside that I cleaned up. I’ll reinstall it see if it helped at all.

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#7 2 years ago

I don’t know if it made a difference or not. I didn’t keep it on long enough to see. Usually the problem of cycling on/off sound starts after about 3 to 4 minutes of play. Reason I didn’t leave it on long enough is because even with the amp off, the sound coming from the cabinet speakers up top is scratchy when the alligator clips are attached. If I detach them, then the scratchy sound goes away. makes me question the connection at the alligator clips and connection point? There’s good connection and the terminals appear clean. Hmmmmm

#11 2 years ago
Quoted from mbwalker:

Adding to my post above, is the external amp running off of +12V or 120V?

Definitely appreciate the info. I have ordered the high-low adapter. The amp is 12v5a. I hope the pic helps answer.

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#13 2 years ago
Quoted from mbwalker:Hi SDpinballer. So are you saying you don't use and AC adapter and run off a straight 12V?
If you truly run off of 12V from the pin, then there might be the chance the negative 12V is at ground potential of the pin. A little hard to describe but it goes back to my balanced output comment going into a single-ended input. So if the amp output is -woofer (i.e. not ground) and +woofer, and it goes into the amp which the is +input, ground...that might be the underlying issue since the -woofer is now connected to ground. For some reason, I see people not using the adapter and somehow get away with it. Haven't given it much thought tho.
If you have a 12V AC adapter, then it might not be a problem since the amp is isolated from the pin (amp ground is not pin ground). Even a two prong vs. 3 prong 120V plug could make a difference too.
I should add that this is all speculation and maybe the amp just went south after working a couple of years. But like I mentioned, the adapter eliminates the issue regardless, doesn't hurt if not needed.
On the adapter, put alligator clips on two of the leads (either pick left or right input), then plug a RCA connector from the adapter output to the amp input.
Here's a little SnipIt I threw together to help visualize.
Holler if I need to clarify anything!
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@mbwalker. Sorry about late response. I have from the wall a two prong power cord that goes to a AC adapter, then into the 12 V5A labeled port on the amplifier. Input into the amplifier is direct connection from the speaker terminal. Speaker terminal two alligator clip RCA cables that I stripped, then input RCA cable adapters into the amplifier. output from amplifier goes directly left (red), left (black) to the speaker. When I get a replacement amp, they’re only 40 bucks, I will look for one with a three prong. But since it’s not completely useless, and the problem starts 3 to 4 minutes in to using it, I’m gonna try the adapter first and see if it makes a difference. Thank you for the information, truly appreciate. Like the diagram that you put together for me

#15 2 years ago
Quoted from mbwalker:

No need for a 3 prong. Only reason I mention 2 prong vs. 3 prong is the 3 prong might have grounded the external amps's chassis. Whereas the ext amp chassis might have been floating with a 2 prong. With the adapter (high-level to low-level) - it's a moot point. You're good w/whatever you buy.
Sorry, might have muddied the water a bit with 2 vs. 3 prong comment. I try to keep a reply kinda short and not get too wordy - can all turn to mush if too long.

Appreciate you guys on this thread. I’ll keep it updated when I get the parts.

#16 2 years ago
Quoted from mbwalker:

Link: amazon.com link »

This fixed the entire problem. The sound System performs better than it ever has now. No cutting out, no scratchy, bass sounds really good. Thank you so much!!!

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