No attachments?

got left and right mixed?!

The only way to remedy these getting better is to post the place you bought them from as to warn others and maybe they'll produce some that are stronger.

Aren't repros of these illegal? They have the WMS logo and I'm pretty sure only Planetary Pinball has the rights to make or authorize sale of these.

On RGP the reseller said he got a bad batch of them and was swapping them out one after another during a tournament. Not fun.

Looks like you got some of those bad ones...

I have had problems with these and I think it is the plastic used to make them, it is too soft.

I've been working on some billet aluminum flippers in different styles. Shown are a polished and a blacked out version. The shafts are threaded in and will be Loctighted with permanent red. Still waiting for some tooling I had to order to finish up the right side flipper which will be left hand threads so when the balls impacts it,a tightening action will result. The lightning style is in the works without the "W" logo. Haven't tested them yet,but I'll post the results later...

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Nice work Modman.

I wonder if the weight difference will make any difference in play?

Oh man, those are so awesome. I'm in.

Very nice work. Those are beautiful!

+1 for me. I'll have to come up with the money somewhere but that is awesome.

It will be interesting.

Aluminum is stiffer, so it may deliver more energy to the ball.

But because it is heavier, it may slow the flippers.

Somebody with the game Vector may have to test the speeds both ways and see what (if any) differences occur.

those are pretty sweet lookin!!!

Thanks for the compliments! In trying to figure out the dimensions for these bats (measurements were taken from my Champion Pub's flippers) I noticed that the ball seems to contact more of the lower edge of the rubber than the center. I also checked the height on another pin and it too seems to contact the ball more towards the bottom of the band. It seems to me you'd want to hit it in the center of the rubber. There's no adjustment for this as the bat has to rest on the nylon tube coming up from the bottom of the play field. If any of you could check your machines the next time you have the glass off,it would be interesting to see the results if the people who designed these things intended it that way. I can move the bands groove down on the bat to correct this situation but then maybe the next guys pin it would be too low. What do you guys think? Are most pins set up this way?

if the rubber is too high , it's going to jam the ball into the playfield. This is the problem with many MM's. Personally, I think williams got a bad batch of Flipper bushings with the MM run and they were 1/8 too high, because i've had to restore 10-15 MM's already and all of them had the angle wings wear in the playfield. And it wasn't caused from the flipper itself, it was the ball. Too high of flipper, means it's more like a pop bumper than a flipper. You want that rubber to hit dead center. Those flippers are tits. Those cannot be cheap to make.

Yes,they're going to cost more than the plastic bats but when you think about it, your eyes constantly see more of that area of the play field than any other so might as well bling it up. I can set up the CNC machine to make quantities of these and justify making them. But 6061 aluminum is pricey and the little 1/8 cutters I use to do the pocketing snap in a heart beat so I have to make a little profit to pay the electric bill. So I'm thinking around $25 bucks each would be a reasonable price for a custom made part.

While we are talking flippers, am I the only person on the planet who gets irritated that a ton of reproduction William's flippers are about 2mm bigger than the older versions? I just bought black Williams that must be older stock ( not NOS ) and they are 2mm shorter than others I bought. Surely 4mm difference in the centre gap will make a difference to gameplay?

Anyway, maybe this is just my obsession

$25 a piece. Seems reasonable for what they are. Would look killer on T2, T3, and DM.

I'll try a set. The look great.

Those look nice, the 3rd one down would look great on AFM they look like the saucers.
I will take a set of those if you make them.

They sure would be. They are awesome!!

Good work that man!

Dave.

I would likely buy a set or 2 at a price point of $25.

You should start up a preorder thread to get a better idea of quantity and maybe gie a price break if pinsiders preorder a certain total number

looks like a very cool custom mod.