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Ever get to open a pin that's had no key for years? I'm excited !!


By pinball_erie

5 years ago



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#1 5 years ago

I will be getting my $100 King Of Diamonds in a few weeks, and the owner has never had the key in the 20 years he has had it. He says the previous owner told him he never had a key either in the 15 years he owned it. It will probably turn out to be nothing, but I am really curious to see what's in there. Hopefully it's nothing like what Vid found in that Space Invaders.............cabinet-o-dicks !!!

http://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/whats-the-strangest-thing-youve-ever-found-in-a-pinball-machine/page/2

#2 5 years ago

Hopefully you at least get some silver coins (1964 and earlier).

#3 5 years ago

Have a friend that does EM's and he picked one up about 3 years ago that had $60 face value silver quarters. Good luck.

#5 5 years ago

I picked up a ms pac and a cruisn world. I found more in quarters than I paid for the machines!

#6 5 years ago
Quoted from NYP:

Call Geraldo !

Talk about forgotten memories... Remeber when all he found was a bottle of some whiskey or something.. Lol.

#7 5 years ago

Several years ago I picked up a Pole Position and two other games. When I drilled out the locks on the PP I found enough change to cover the cost of all three and then some. I don't remember the amount but it was a nice surprise.

#8 5 years ago
Quoted from pinball_erie:

I will be getting my $100 King Of Diamonds in a few weeks, and the owner has never had the key in the 20 years he has had it. He says the previous owner told him he never had a key either in the 15 years he owned it. It will probably turn out to be nothing, but I am really curious to see what's in there. Hopefully it's nothing like what Vid found in that Space Invaders.............cabinet-o-dicks !!!
http://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/whats-the-strangest-thing-youve-ever-found-in-a-pinball-machine/page/2

I helped BadBrick pick up a game from a high school once. They didn't have the keys, and didn't even know the backglass came out. We mentioned there might be acid damage from the batteries, and they didn't even know batteries were in it.

I taught one of their shop classes how to properly drill a lock in just a few seconds, then I realized I had just taught a bunch of teenagers how to break into stuff....

#9 5 years ago
Quoted from Wolfmarsh:

I helped BadBrick pick up a game from a high school once. They didn't have the keys, and didn't even know the backglass came out. We mentioned there might be acid damage from the batteries, and they didn't even know batteries were in it.
I taught one of their shop classes how to properly drill a lock in just a few seconds, then I realized I had just taught a bunch of teenagers how to break into stuff....

Their parents will be coming to you for the bail $$$$

#10 5 years ago
Quoted from Wolfmarsh:

I taught one of their shop classes how to properly drill a lock in just a few seconds, then I realized I had just taught a bunch of teenagers how to break into stuff....

hey, they might as well learn from an expert...

@the op... i would temper my excitement, because machines that haven't been opened in awhile can also have, ummm, undesirable, stuff in them...

#11 5 years ago

About 50% of the machines I buy don't have keys. Many have the cabinet locks missing, but almost all have the backbox lock present and still locked.

If you are lucky you get a nice set of schematics, manual and price cards. But normally you will get old porn that you don't want to touch. I just got a pin that had a pile of fliers for phone sex numbers stuffed into envelopes with the sellers name and address on them, makes it tough for them to say "I wonder who put them in there?". I must say that there is a wide selection of phone sex numbers to fit many "tastes".

Normally if the seller does not offer me keys I won't ask about them. After drilling out locks at a seller's home and having the seller want to renegotiate the price I just realized it was easier to leave them locked and act like nothing could ever be inside of them. For a couple minutes of work and a $3 lock it just is not worth the possible hassle.

#12 5 years ago
Quoted from ccotenj:

hey, they might as well learn from an expert...

The school's principal walked up as I was finishing the "tutorial" and was wondering why there were two strange adults on school grounds, lol. We left pretty quickly after that.

#13 5 years ago
Quoted from mg81:

But normally you will get old porn that you don't want to touch.

Full Bush!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

#14 5 years ago

I don't open them in front of the sellers.

Just load it into the van and wave goodby.

If the lock is still "loose", you can pick it faster than you can drill it (usually).

There is that treasure hunt fun of opening something locked up for so many years, thats for sure!

#15 5 years ago
Quoted from vid1900:

If the lock is still "loose", you can pick it faster than you can drill it (usually).

you need a bigger bit vid... no picking necessary...

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#16 5 years ago

It will be fun to see what you find...you'll have to make sure you report back to us. As was mentioned previously, maybe a Geraldo style, video documentation of the "opening" could be done.

Dave

#17 5 years ago

If you don't find anything good inside, then perhaps plant something funny inside, close it up, then reopen it, take a pic, then post for us to get a laugh.

#18 5 years ago
Quoted from Pinball-is-great:

If you don't find anything good inside, then perhaps plant something funny inside, close it up, then reopen it, take a pic, then post for us to get a laugh.

What is this, a "reality" show?

#20 5 years ago
Quoted from vid1900:

I don't open them in front of the sellers.
Just load it into the van and wave goodby.
If the lock is still "loose", you can pick it faster than you can drill it (usually).
There is that treasure hunt fun of opening something locked up for so many years, thats for sure!

Agreed, no way in hell I open this up until it's home. It's not going very far, keeping the head on in the back of my pick up is no big deal.

#21 5 years ago

If you find the manual, consider yourself lucky . . . those are never in the darn cab.

#22 5 years ago

Vid, I am not doubting that you can pick a loose lock faster than I can drill one out, but would someone please post a video of picking one of these locks at this rapid speed.

I conceptually get the idea of loading/tensioning up the lock cylinder and pushing each pin/wafer until they each reach the sear line, but I have never seen it done in a prompt manner and with common tools I have laying around.

For me I just have the cordless drill and a sharp 3/8" bit ready to go. I have a gravel driveway, so I just pull the pin out of my vehicle and drill the coin door so the chips go into the gravel (a no cleanup required mess), if I get lucky the backbox key is inside on the coin door, if not the backbox lock gets drilled next.

It is no exaggeration to say that I can drill the lock in under 10 seconds if my drill is charged and the bit is sharp. I figure even if I could pick the lock I still won't have the key for the lock and will end up throwing out the lock, so drilling it is no loss to me.

#23 5 years ago
Quoted from mg81:

Vid, I am not doubting that you can pick a loose lock faster than I can drill one out, but would someone please post a video of picking one of these locks at this rapid speed.

The reason that those cabinet locks are so fast to pick is that they are made with such low tolerance parts, that you just "rake" across the pins with a paperclip.

Same thing with cheap door locks.

Quality locks have tight tolerances and require much more skill.

Maybe 3 seconds to open a cabinet lock:

#24 5 years ago

I opened one I bought one day and found over $130 in a machine I bought for $200. But since I am a nice guy and the seller was down on his luck I gave him all the quarters, even though he insisted they were mine since I had already paid for the machine. Only thing I asked was that he give me a final count once he had time to count them. Total was like $137 if I remember correctly.

Normally I am the guy that finds a mouse nest and the guy that bought the game next to me is the guy that finds $100 worth of silver dimes & quarters.

#25 5 years ago
Quoted from pinball_erie:

Agreed, no way in hell I open this up until it's home. It's not going very far, keeping the head on in the back of my pick up is no big deal.

Why would you do that? Just drill out the back door lock, or just take a screwdriver and break the lock.

The back door lock is easy to get rid of.

It's no big deal until something busts the backglass.

Don't drill the front door. Just drill the back door, take the head off, and off you go.

#26 5 years ago
Quoted from EMsInKC:

Why would you do that? Just drill out the back door lock, or just take a screwdriver and break the lock.
The back door lock is easy to get rid of.
It's no big deal until something busts the backglass.
Don't drill the front door. Just drill the back door, take the head off, and off you go.

I stand corrected, good take on that backglass nightmare scenario.

3 weeks later
#27 5 years ago

WOW............ very anticlimactic. There were only old bulbs and two dimes. On the plus side, the underside of the playfield looks super clean. Oh well, great winter project for $100 bucks.

#28 5 years ago
Quoted from vid1900:

I don't open them in front of the sellers.
Just load it into the van and wave goodby.
If the lock is still "loose", you can pick it faster than you can drill it (usually).
There is that treasure hunt fun of opening something locked up for so many years, thats for sure!

I don't know, I can drill one pretty-fast and easy too. It may take me 4 seconds with a new drill bit.

I just had to drill my Playboy locks the other day because I lost the keys and hadn't been able to find them in a year. Of course about a week later I found the old keys!

lol

Fortunately, about 10 years ago I landed a box full of NOS locks so it wasn't that big of a loss.

#29 5 years ago
Quoted from NYP:

Call Geraldo !

Ummmm, we're still digging........

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