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Escalera


By Russell

1 year ago



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    #101 11 months ago

    Unfortunately, I purchased a fully loaded Escalera just before deciding to slow way down on the hobby. I can’t say I’m done, but I don’t think I need an Escalera at this point. My total cost was ~ $4000 after shipping, tax, etc. Larry was great to work with.

    This is essentially the everything-included unit for pinball, with all relevant accessories:

    60” Stair-climbing handtruck with removable forklift.
    $2499
    Big wheel attachment, $155
    Big toe plate attachment, $135
    Battery charger, $60
    Extra strap, $99
    Pinball lift attachment, $
    Lift Hitch, $299
    Swivel caster attachment, $135
    Magnum cross-grip, $
    Step-edge detection, $359

    I’m still trying to get a breakdown of the individual costs of all the accessories. I am happy to show receipts.

    I’ve never moved even one game all the way up stairs with it. $3000 OBO for everything.

    #102 11 months ago
    Quoted from Russell:

    Unfortunately, I purchased a fully loaded Escalera just before deciding to slow way down on the hobby. I can’t say I’m done, but I don’t think I need an Escalera at this point. My total cost was ~ $4000 after shipping, tax, etc. Larry was great to work with.
    This is essentially the everything-included unit for pinball, with all relevant accessories:
    60” Stair-climbing handtruck with removable forklift.
    $2499
    Big wheel attachment, $155
    Big toe plate attachment, $135
    Battery charger, $60
    Extra strap, $99
    Pinball lift attachment, $
    Lift Hitch, $299
    Swivel caster attachment, $135
    Magnum cross-grip, $
    Step-edge detection, $359
    I’m still trying to get a breakdown of the individual costs of all the accessories. I am happy to show receipts.
    I’ve never moved even one game all the way up stairs with it. $3000 OBO for everything.

    Wow! That's the Rolls Royce of Escaleras you have there.

    #103 11 months ago

    Happy to part out, sell some of the accessories separately.

    #104 11 months ago

    Escaleras are pretty darn awesome, especially for weaklings like me who can't just manhandle things on their back jogging up the stairs.

    - STTNG as an example. Anyone who's had one, knows this is one heavy SOB of a game.

    I've personally got the midsize unit, with the forklift and pinball plate. Plus, the toe hitch. Zero regrets.

    GLWS, Russel.

    #105 11 months ago
    Quoted from Russell:

    Unfortunately, I purchased a fully loaded Escalera just before deciding to slow way down on the hobby. I can’t say I’m done, but I don’t think I need an Escalera at this point. My total cost was ~ $4000 after shipping, tax, etc. Larry was great to work with.
    This is essentially the everything-included unit for pinball, with all relevant accessories:
    60” Stair-climbing handtruck with removable forklift.
    $2499
    Big wheel attachment, $155
    Big toe plate attachment, $135
    Battery charger, $60
    Extra strap, $99
    Pinball lift attachment, $
    Lift Hitch, $299
    Swivel caster attachment, $135
    Magnum cross-grip, $
    Step-edge detection, $359
    I’m still trying to get a breakdown of the individual costs of all the accessories. I am happy to show receipts.
    I’ve never moved even one game all the way up stairs with it. $3000 OBO for everything.

    You can use the forklift with the 60" Escalera? I was thinking the 66" was the smallest. And that is definitely some setup you have. The one I have has been great for moving machines, dressers, and plenty of other furniture.

    Brad

    #106 11 months ago

    OK Escalera owners I need some advice. I have had the unit for about 2 weeks and I must be doing it wrong? Granted my first attempt was an Elephant Hobbit. Going up my stairs (many more than 3) it almost Lunges forward making it a holly crap moment. I tried using a lower angle and that was a Scary outcome as it ended up rolling down 3 stairs with me holding on for dear life. Tried less angle and back to lunging #400 lbs forward again. What am I missing as I really want this to work but it feels safer now with the old clean and jerk with the manual dolly. Any advice would be greatly appreciated. Possibly my stair treads are to small or tall? There is barely an inch for the lift roller to grab the end of each stair?

    #107 11 months ago
    Quoted from Yelobird:

    OK Escalera owners I need some advice. I have had the unit for about 2 weeks and I must be doing it wrong? Granted my first attempt was an Elephant Hobbit. Going up my stairs (many more than 3) it almost Lunges forward making it a holly crap moment. I tried using a lower angle and that was a Scary outcome as it ended up rolling down 3 stairs with me holding on for dear life. Tried less angle and back to lunging #400 lbs forward again. What am I missing as I really want this to work but it feels safer now with the old clean and jerk with the manual dolly. Any advice would be greatly appreciated. Possibly my stair treads are to small or tall? There is barely an inch for the lift roller to grab the end of each stair?

    That jerk you are feeling is the shift in the center of gravity when the load's weight goes from the main wheels to the small lift wheels. You need to anticipate it and re-balance the load once the shift happens. It's definitely a somewhat jarring feeling at first, but the whole process will become second nature after you've used your Escalera more. When I first started using mine, I found it easiest to activate the switch just a little at a time and go slowly until you start to feel the shift, then apply the necessary counter force and continue up/down the stair.

    #108 11 months ago
    Quoted from Yelobird:

    OK Escalera owners I need some advice. I have had the unit for about 2 weeks and I must be doing it wrong? Granted my first attempt was an Elephant Hobbit. Going up my stairs (many more than 3) it almost Lunges forward making it a holly crap moment. I tried using a lower angle and that was a Scary outcome as it ended up rolling down 3 stairs with me holding on for dear life. Tried less angle and back to lunging #400 lbs forward again. What am I missing as I really want this to work but it feels safer now with the old clean and jerk with the manual dolly. Any advice would be greatly appreciated. Possibly my stair treads are to small or tall? There is barely an inch for the lift roller to grab the end of each stair?

    Gweempose is correct it is the shift in the balance point from the wheels to the feet that have landed on the next step up.

    Try this until you get used to moving a game with the Escalera. As the feet go down to touch the step go very slowly until they just touch the next step. Push down on the handle to physically move the weight from the wheels to the feet. Now the game is on the next step so no change in the balance point. Repeat until you are up the stairs. Once you get used to this it will be second nature.

    If you lower the game the belt on the hand truck will contact the edge of the stairs before the feet and allow it to slide down as with yelobird. So maintain the balance point at all times and it will be fine.

    Jellikit the middle size is the 66 inch. So the forklift option only goes on the 66 inch or a special order for a 72 inch.

    Larry@flipnoutpinball.com

    #109 11 months ago

    I guess mine is a 66”

    #110 11 months ago
    Quoted from Russell:

    I guess mine is a 66”

    Where are you located, local buyers that wouldn't have to pay for shipping could save a lot of $$.

    #111 11 months ago

    Update to details, thanks Larry:

    Removable forklift Staircat with hand winch: $2395
    Big wheel attachment: $150
    Magnum cross-grip handle: $50
    12”x28” Bigtoe plate attachment: $130
    Lift hitch: $275
    Swivel caster attachment: $130
    Step Edge detector kit: $345
    Custom Lift Plate Attachment (Pinball plate) 18”x42”: $195
    Extra Rewind Strap: $90
    Freight/Shipping: $235
    Total: $3995

    These are my costs, I will discount everything by 20% on individual components, or everything for $3000 (25% off). I am in Colorado Springs.

    #112 11 months ago

    That's 25% FYI

    #113 11 months ago

    Great seller. Deal with confidence! GLWS Russell!

    #114 11 months ago

    Some Mexicans building houses for me just installed escalera.

    #115 11 months ago

    Since someone asked...If you just want the main unit with forklift, with no accessories? (Although I think you’re going to want some accessories.)

    Main unit + fork= $2395
    Magnum cross grip= $50
    Extra strap= $90
    My Total Cost= $2535 (not counting tax, shipping)
    - 20%
    =$2028, call it $2000 even.

    #116 11 months ago

    They work pretty well for going upstairs, but going downstairs is always a bit scary. I have an escalera. The unit itself is pretty heavy. On the plus side, you can move a game from a basement by yourself, but it is a slow process. My advice is to Practice using it with nothing in it a few times going up and down stairs to get used to it.

    #117 11 months ago

    Where are you located....

    #118 11 months ago

    Just realized I had my location hidden. Fixed it. I’m in Colorado Springs, CO.

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    #119 11 months ago
    Quoted from kovalski3:

    They work pretty well for going upstairs, but going downstairs is always a bit scary. I have an escalera. The unit itself is pretty heavy. On the plus side, you can move a game from a basement by yourself, but it is a slow process. My advice is to Practice using it with nothing in it a few times going up and down stairs to get used to it.

    I believe the stair edge detector kit is supposed to make the process of going down the stairs less frightening? In a way I'm glad this isn't closer to me or I'd probably already be on my way to pick it up, lol!

    #120 11 months ago
    Quoted from bobukcat:

    I believe the stair edge detector kit is supposed to make the process of going down the stairs less frightening? In a way I'm glad this isn't closer to me or I'd probably already be on my way to pick it up, lol!

    we can get you some tasty vegan treats if you come visit us in colorado

    bump for a great dude to deal with!

    #121 11 months ago
    Quoted from bobukcat:

    I believe the stair edge detector kit is supposed to make the process of going down the stairs less frightening? In a way I'm glad this isn't closer to me or I'd probably already be on my way to pick it up, lol!

    #122 11 months ago
    Quoted from flynnibus:

    » YouTube video

    I would agree to that if as shown in the video you have 2 foot deep stairs. For traditional pitch stairs I am certain this feature would be useless.

    #123 11 months ago
    Quoted from Yelobird:

    I would agree to that if as shown in the video you have 2 foot deep stairs. For traditional pitch stairs I am certain this feature would be useless.

    Ehh... if your cart's wheels aren't hitting the landing of the step... you are doing it WAY wrong The machine rests on it's wheels inbetween each climb. These chocks would further help keep the base steady.

    #124 11 months ago

    I have the edge detectors on mine. They are a great feature and definitely help even on normal stairs.

    #125 11 months ago

    Has anyone used one on hardwood stair treads? Do the tread edges take a beating?

    #126 11 months ago
    Quoted from kovalski3:

    They work pretty well for going upstairs, but going downstairs is always a bit scary. I have an escalera. The unit itself is pretty heavy. On the plus side, you can move a game from a basement by yourself, but it is a slow process. My advice is to Practice using it with nothing in it a few times going up and down stairs to get used to it.

    I agree..... I found that the best way to go down steps is just to have my wife there also. She does NOT have to lift at all, she just keeps pressure towards the back of the step so the escalera does not roll forward going to the next. Easy and very safe when we do it this way.

    #127 11 months ago

    Going down is definitely a lot more scary than going up, since you're essentially doing it blind.

    #128 11 months ago

    No problems up or down with the Lectro-truck. Never any issue with finished stair treads either. 600# gun safes are no issue at all.

    #129 11 months ago

    I have no problems going down or up. But I use it almost every day and have been for many years. For folks who don't use an Escalera, or any other hand truck but occasionally, I can understand why it makes them nervous to see their game hanging over the edge of the steps. Used correctly one person can do it very safely. Base model Escalera is rated for 700# but the base models on some hand trucks are only rated for 600#.
    Other hand trucks can pin you against the wall at a landing since they must extend to lift over that last step. Escalera does not.
    The Escalera does not damage the edge of the stairs. It lifts the wheels over the edge, just like many other powered hand trucks. Appliance dollies or hand truck actually use the edge of the steps. The belt hits the edge and all the weight is applied to the belt as it rotates up to the next step.
    Watch videos on how it works and you can see exactly how the wheels clear the edge of the step.

    larry@flipnoutpinball.com

    #130 11 months ago

    $2900 for everything. Ad posted on Craigslist, Pinside ad to follow soon.

    #131 11 months ago

    You sure that's a 66"? Looks like a 72". I could be really wrong. It would say on the serial number tag.

    Bump.

    #132 11 months ago

    It's 66". Can't find the serial number tag, where is it? It's not near as tall as me. So, not 72".

    #133 11 months ago

    Serial tag is on the side. 66” is the perfect size.

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