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Escalara- Pros & Cons

By poppapin

5 years ago


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    #40 5 years ago

    I tried lifting my Devils Dare (heavy Gottlieb widebody) game up the stairs and it pulled forward and pulled me off the stairs and I lost the machine down the stairs. Luckily I was able to catch myself or I would have been seriously hurt.

    I am quite light which is likely why that happened but I had already been very familiar with the handtruck at that point so that was not the cause. I ended up needing to take the playfield and glass out of the cab to lighten it up to get it up the stairs.

    As an EM collector I consider that game "the heaviest of them all" but in comparison I bet that game is lighter than most DMD games.

    For what it makes up in lifting it does give back in form of forward pull and you have to be quite strong in the arms to control it well. It was easier than lifting but I felt more nervous when using it than I would just using a regular old handtruck up the stairs. I guess you have to weigh the pros and cons for yourself, being tired vs. being scared shitless. I would hate trying a refrigerator or an arcade machine which provides even more weight up top where pinball machines cease to exist past a decent mid-point even.

    Also, never use a spotter at the bottom of the game like you would for a normal handtruck. They serve no purpose and all you could ever do is crush them. It seems like you would not want to operate this yourself alone but that is exactly how it is designed. So, if you must have a spotter make sure they stand well to the side incase you drop it. Not like they can help in any way as the machine does all of the lifting work.

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    #59 5 years ago
    Quoted from TimeBandit:

    This is bad information and untrue.

    I'd say it's more of an experience than incorrect... what are you assuming, I made it up?

    When you're on stairs you can't get that prime angle like you can on flat ground for having a handtruck balance itself well and feel "weightlessness". It's just not possible on stairs. Hence needing to pull back pretty hard, and when those little wheels start to push up it does lerch forward pretty hard when it catches.

    #61 5 years ago
    Quoted from Lermods:

    Practice makes perfect. When you go up, the game does feel like it wants to lurch forward, but once you do it a few times, you realize how to adjust your angle, leverage and where to stand. It's really effortless to move a game.

    Yes, I found this true for most games and did that heavy game almost last. The added weight made it very difficult to control, and I didn't feel like it was "adjusting" because I had already tons of experience with it that day even. Like I said above I think it would have been easier and possible if you could stand differently, but alas they're stairs and unfortunately it's pretty tricky to adjust yourself too much. I wasn't able to counter the weight (and believe me I tried holding on like hell!) and down the stairs it went.

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    #74 5 years ago
    Quoted from TimeBandit:

    Perhaps I could make a video for you on how to use it correctly. Yes, you experienced all this difficulty using it, but that’s not necessary. Of course the right angle can be found on stairs. That’s how thousands of professional users do it all day every day.

    Again, I used it just fine for 39 other machines. But when the weight was added, even with the correct angle adjustments to compensate, it was rough. Save your lesson for somebody else.

    For anybody interested in semantics, they were painted concrete indoor steps which were pretty slick. I imagine I might have had a better time on carpet.

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    #89 5 years ago
    Quoted from Spraynard:

    My first time using an escalera was with a loaner to determine if I wanted to purchase, and it was an absolute disaster. The thing about these things is that when they are lifting the machine, the weight distribution changes drastically. It wants to roll the machine forward and you have to pull back on it to keep it balanced. I was about 5 stairs up, and I'm pulling back, and my feet start slipping (wood stairs). I'm basically just sliding forward on the step with no leverage at all. Eventually I had to just let go. The machine flipped forward, hit a stair or two, then skidded to a stop on the bottom landing.
    I was surprised by how little damage actually resulted. A small chunk of wood out of my stairs, and a broken plunger housing and thats it. Could have been a lot worse. Glad I didn't have my girlfriend or friend under there...
    Needless to say, I decided not to purchase. I successfully got the game up the stairs with it, but that thing just terrified me. Apart from the accident, my biggest fear was that the battery would die halfway up the stairs. God help you if that happens, because those things weight a ton. Maybe I'd feel better if there was a battery backup.
    Nowadays, I just hire a helper using TaskRabbit. They are usually something like $30-$40/hr. I figure I'd have to move about 20 machines before the escalera was worth it. I move a game up my stairs maybe 3-4 times per year, so it wasn't really worth it to me.

    Not surprised somebody else had the same experience. These things are not perfect. Almost the exact same thing that happened to me down to the details.

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