(Topic ID: 1212)

Error message Flipper E.O.S.

By dglover4569

12 years ago


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#1 12 years ago

Has anyone ever had the error message L. Flipper E.O.S, R. flipper E.O.S, and the ball kicker does not work? Not sure if it's a fuse or board trouble. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

#2 12 years ago

EOS is End of Stroke .. it's the secondary hold coil switch that disconnects the main coil and switches in the higher ohm less amperage hold coil to let you keep the flipper in the up position as long as you continue to hold the flipper button.

Check/clean your switch contacts on your flippers.

#3 12 years ago

The vibrations caused by the flippers often causes the wires to break of the EOS switches. Check the wires, not just visually but give 'm a little pull as well. On modern pinball machines, the eos switches use orange wires and they have their their own connector in the backbox. You could also remove and reseat the connector a few times which effectively cleans it.

As for your ball kicker malfunctioning, I don't quite see this being related to the EOS problem since the EOS are not a part of the switch matrix (well, at least on modern games). Are you talking about the coil not working or is their something wrong with the switch in the shooter lane causing the machine not to see that there's a ball there?

#4 12 years ago

I'm not getting any coil power. None of my flippers work at all. ball will not even pop out. Must have blow something.

#5 12 years ago

Thank you for your suggestions. I guess Wes does not want a project Judge Dredd machine!

#6 12 years ago

If neither flipper works I would check the related fuses. Which game is it?

#7 12 years ago

Flipper coils are the first ones to fail because of their usage. Replace both with new. I know it's an expense but you won't be sorry. Use the vendor of your choice. I always order extra coils and keep them and flipper rebuild kit parts in my private stock for my machines. After all .. you gotta pay the same shipping charge for one part or ten.

Most likely one or it's diode is failing and now you've blown the fuse. Check under the playfield as the flipper fuse(s) are most often there.

#8 12 years ago

If Many coils are not working, suspect a fuse. Take them all out and buzz em with your DMM. Always test fuses outside the game, not in their holder as this can give false readings.

If it is only a couple of coils that are not working I would suspect a broken wire. But this only happens with coils that are in the same row/column.

In your case, where you have a problem with the flippers and with some pf coils. This must be a fuse or loose ground connector or something in that direction, since flippers and coils are different, unrelated, circuits.

#9 12 years ago

I wouldnt mind a project machine =). Im gunna have to learn sooner or later how a machine works to save some dough.

#10 12 years ago

I have it working like brand new money once again! Robin had it correct with fuses and possibly a loose coil wire. After switching out a few fuses, I'm back to flipping. You guys are the best! Many thanks to all.

#11 12 years ago

your welcome

#12 12 years ago

Great to hear that, thats what we're all here for!

#13 12 years ago

Great topic! Why? I get the same error on my AF, for the upper left flipper. Yes the one Thing uses.

So Brokedad, what you are saying is if I hold the left flipper button this flipper should not stay in the up position? Or will it stay in the up position, only slowly wearing the main coil out? because this secondary coil is not taking over? It just appears that you could get this error, but the flipper will still behave correctly even though it's not switching over to the secondary coil?

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#14 9 years ago

I have had the issue for a few days. I have a DM. I changed the fuses in the Fliptronic board. I also changed fuses F115 and F116 in the WPC board. I checked the switches to the flipper and flipper button and they work. When I changed F115, I no longer got the message, but the flippers still do not work and the ball still does not pop out.

#15 9 years ago
Quoted from Oliva:

I have had the issue for a few days. I have a DM. I changed the fuses in the Fliptronic board. I also changed fuses F115 and F116 in the WPC board. I checked the switches to the flipper and flipper button and they work. When I changed F115, I no longer got the message, but the flippers still do not work and the ball still does not pop out.

Are we just changing fuses or are we checking them with a meter outside of the game too ?

While you are at it check F112, secondary solenoid power.

LTG : )

#16 9 years ago
Quoted from VT8man:

Great topic! Why? I get the same error on my AF, for the upper left flipper. Yes the one Thing uses.

Check all your EOS points on all four flippers for a broken wire.

Assuming the upper left EOS is clean and the pawl pushes it closed.

LTG : )

#17 9 years ago
Quoted from LTG:

Are we just changing fuses or are we checking them with a meter outside of the game too ?
While you are at it check F112, secondary solenoid power.
LTG : )

That was the one. Thank you so much LTG

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