(Topic ID: 259307)

EOS Switch Adjustment to Lessen Ball Force


By Genieye

49 days ago



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#1 49 days ago

Thanks to many of you I finally have my Genie playing right. It was quite the battle. It seems many do everything they can to get more pop out of your flippers but in my case I am wondering if my left flipper has too much as the ball pops off the lower drop targets so hard it seems like it is only a matter of time before the glass shatters.

I have searched and it seems to be a rare occurrence but man that ball smacks the glass hard. Should I leave things alone and not worry about glass break or is is this a real concern where I should adjust the switch. If so, are there any tips on how to find the right balance of power? Thanks appreciate all who help me here.

#2 49 days ago

Monkeying around with the EOs likely won’t help much. You could see if steve young will sell you a lower power flipper coil.

The ball will never shatter the glass, unless someone put a sheet of untempered glass in there which is pretty Unlikey.

#3 49 days ago
Quoted from Genieye:

Thanks to many of you I finally have my Genie playing right. It was quite the battle. It seems many do everything they can to get more pop out of your flippers but in my case I am wondering if my left flipper has too much as the ball pops off the lower drop targets so hard it seems like it is only a matter of time before the glass shatters.
I have searched and it seems to be a rare occurrence but man that ball smacks the glass hard. Should I leave things alone and not worry about glass break or is is this a real concern where I should adjust the switch. If so, are there any tips on how to find the right balance of power? Thanks appreciate all who help me here.

Hi buddy!! In many cases when this happens try adjusting the game.Higher up the back legs that way the game will level a bit higher from the back.

#4 49 days ago
Quoted from pinmike:

Hi buddy!! In many cases when this happens try adjusting the game.Higher up the back legs that way the game will level a bit higher from the back.

Hi Mike! I FINALLY thanks to you and others got the Genie up and playing without Tilts, Game Overs, or shorts knock on wood or anything else that might help. So making it higher in the back I guess gives the ball more downward force making it harder to drive the ball upward. Man I have it pretty steep already. Is there a standard for how high the table slant should for these games or is it pretty much game dependent?

If as stated here I don't have to really worry about the glass breaking then I can live with the smacking it makes but it is pretty scary as it happens a lot during the game. Thanks buddy and hope life is good!

#5 49 days ago
Quoted from Genieye:

Is there a standard for how high the table slant should for these games or is it pretty much game dependent?

That era you'll hear a lot of back legs all the way up and fronts down.

It's not the glass we're worried aboot, it's targets, posts, and plastics cracking if the flipper is overpowered.

#6 49 days ago
Quoted from Genieye:

Hi Mike! I FINALLY thanks to you and others got the Genie up and playing without Tilts, Game Overs, or shorts knock on wood or anything else that might help. So making it higher in the back I guess gives the ball more downward force making it harder to drive the ball upward. Man I have it pretty steep already. Is there a standard for how high the table slant should for these games or is it pretty much game dependent?
If as stated here I don't have to really worry about the glass breaking then I can live with the smacking it makes but it is pretty scary as it happens a lot during the game. Thanks buddy and hope life is good!

Life is good buddy!! I just read in your other thread that genie is up and running..Awesome!! Usually the slant of the game is leveled at 7 but like it has stated its tempered glass so no worries.What some guys do sometimes is put a thin piece of clear tape on the drop targets

#7 49 days ago

Oh another thread just popped up that we are working on about another Genie problems.. This must be Genie month..Haha

#8 49 days ago
Quoted from TheLaw:

That era you'll hear a lot of back legs all the way up and fronts down.
It's not the glass we're worried aboot, it's targets, posts, and plastics cracking if the flipper is overpowered.

That's right and also it's a wide body pin

#9 49 days ago
Quoted from pinmike:

That's right and also it's a wide body pin

And it's fun to play with a powerball....buuuuut not if the flippers are that potent.

#10 49 days ago

I did my best to keep the ball from hitting the glass off of the drop targets on Mystic. Tried several things, including raising the back legs up as far as they would go (3" leg levelers).

Then I got some good info from Eric at Titan. Balls hit the glass all the time in machines from our era. More recent machines have a higher glass / lower play field.

The Bottom Line: Its a feature, not a bug. I'm told the glass won't break.

#11 49 days ago
Quoted from undrdog:

I did my best to keep the ball from hitting the glass off of the drop targets on Mystic. Tried several things, including raising the back legs up as far as they would go (3" leg levelers).
Then I got some good info from Eric at Titan. Balls hit the glass all the time in machines from our era. More recent machines have a higher glass / lower play field.
The Bottom Line: Its a feature, not a bug. I'm told the glass won't break.

Thanks to all who helped. I called Marco as someone else told to make sure I have Gottlieb flipper rubber not Bally but think the rubber is fine. They also told me that on the early SS games the recommended slope is 3.5. I am not sure how that stacks up with what most are doing? I downloaded an app for a Clinometer to see what that looks like. Do you think that sounds about right?? I will look to find the person with the other Genie problem as I am certainly interested.

#12 49 days ago
Quoted from Genieye:

Thanks to all who helped. I called Marco as someone else told to make sure I have Gottlieb flipper rubber not Bally but think the rubber is fine. They also told me that on the early SS games the recommended slope is 3.5. I am not sure how that stacks up with what most are doing? I downloaded an app for a Clinometer to see what that looks like. Do you think that sounds about right?? I will look to find the person with the other Genie problem as I am certainly interested.

That slope is way too shallow for me unless you like the ball floating all over the place. I have my Bobby Orr powerplay set with front all the way down (with nuts on inside of legs), and back maxed all the way up AND on 1x4 blocks.

#13 49 days ago

I am so glad I asked this question as the slope was definitely not enough and contributed to the ball slamming against the glass. I increase the incline to 6.5 and the game is so much more fun to play this way. The ball still pops the glass but not to a scary degree and it is not so hard on the drop targets. I got her where I want her thanks to all of you here.

#14 49 days ago
Quoted from JayDee:

That slope is way too shallow for me unless you like the ball floating all over the place. I have my Bobby Orr powerplay set with front all the way down (with nuts on inside of legs), and back maxed all the way up AND on 1x4 blocks.

Oh yes the slope/slant makes a huge difference in gameplay.When having a ball just slowly floating around the playfield makes the game less enjoyable.

#15 49 days ago
Quoted from Genieye:

I am so glad I asked this question as the slope was definitely not enough and contributed to the ball slamming against the glass. I increase the incline to 6.5 and the game is so much more fun to play this way. The ball still pops the glass but not to a scary degree and it is not so hard on the drop targets. I got her where I want her thanks to all of you here.

The best thing about all this was
1.It was a learning adventure
2.Best of all YOU NEVER GAVE UP!
Congrats Buddy

#16 49 days ago
Quoted from pinmike:

The best thing about all this was
1.It was a learning adventure
2.Best of all YOU NEVER GAVE UP!
Congrats Buddy

Thanks Mike, Yeah that's me, Man on a relentless mission I just cannot sleep well when there are things not right. One one hand it can drive you nuts but on the positive side you get stuff done, hopefully. Thanks again for all my friend!

#17 49 days ago
Quoted from Genieye:

Thanks Mike, Yeah that's me, Man on a relentless mission I just cannot sleep well when there are things not right. One one hand it can drive you nuts but on the positive side you get stuff done, hopefully. Thanks again for all my friend!

Your very welcome my friend!! Remember when we first met I was telling you to keep it all in one thread?? Haha!!! Looking at your other thread 188 posts!!! Hahaha!! That thread is one for the pinside books.. Ha!

#18 49 days ago
Quoted from pinmike:

Your very welcome my friend!! Remember when we first met I was telling you to keep it all in one thread?? Haha!!! Looking at your other thread 188 posts!!! Hahaha!! That thread is one for the pinside books.. Ha!

Too Funny Mike! Yeah man we go back and have come along way since that first post about keeping it on one page. Pinside is such a valuable resource and that 188 page thread has enough info in it to fix many of the Gottlieb Sys 1 problems and hopefully will help others searching for answers.

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