(Topic ID: 242756)

EMs that attract new players


By Pwaka1986

35 days ago



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    #1 35 days ago

    Hey guys, I’m a fairly new pinball fan, about two years into the hobby. Grew up in the 90s during the dmd heyday and after revisiting pinball now in my early 30s I’m very into the 78-90 era solid state machines. But, after visiting VFW in Michigan last weekend, I’m giving the EM’s more interest. Really loved the mid 60s- early 70s Bally zipper flipper games (fireball, joust, dogies, four million bc, etc) and the 50s wood rails are very cool (Niagara, Mermaid, Knock Out) Not much else was doing it for me. What am I missing? What are some iconic machines I need to give some attention in the future?

    #2 35 days ago

    I really enjoyed playing a Slick Chick.

    #3 35 days ago

    Bally Wizard!, Williams Dealers Choice, Bally Freedom, Gottlieb Spirit of 76, Gottlieb Target Alpha, Williams Grand Prix and a lot of other ones...
    Not so familiar with 50's games, they are pretty rare in this part of the world...

    #4 35 days ago

    Everyone seems to like Spanish eyes once I convince them they're allowed to shake it.

    #5 35 days ago

    Paradise, Grand Prix, Twin Win, Jack in the Box, Centigrade 37, 2001 and Volley to name a handful.

    #6 35 days ago

    Captain card, Old Chicago, Royal Guard.

    #7 35 days ago

    Surprised I haven't seen 4MBC mentioned. Seems to be the DMD players' EM of choice.

    #8 35 days ago

    Abra Ca Dabra

    #9 35 days ago

    300

    #10 35 days ago

    Regarding YOUR personal taste, that will emerge, after playing many, and also evolve and change over time. Keep doing what you're doing, putting time on these old gems. You might find a feature you really like (zipper flippers, roto targets, back box animation, or spinners), or a designer (sounds like you fancy Ted Zale, and Wayne Neyens designed all those Woodies you mention) or even an artist you fancy. And if you look around long enough, you might find a confluence of all these things. Enjoy the exploration and discovery!

    #11 35 days ago

    Royal Flush, El Dorado, Quick Draw, just to name a few.

    #12 35 days ago

    Jacks Open and Atlantis are fun games with a more modern style ruleset.

    #13 35 days ago

    Paragon & Joker Poker

    Paragon had so much going on. It was one of the first game I ever played. I didn't know they could be that wide and have double flippers. Seemed like so many things to hit.

    Joker Poker as well because of the uniqueness per ball. Such a great game. Though this didn't attract me to pinball the way Paragon did.

    #14 35 days ago

    I love everything by Ted Zale. Vfw had the whole row by him by the front door. He was way ahead of his time. Zipper flippers, multi ball, skill shots, ball locks, kick backs, captive balls. He through every bit of technology available at the time at a game. I love his last 4 efforts before retiring.
    Joust, 4 million bc, Fireball, and Nip It

    #15 35 days ago

    I've had guests over for the weekend, and they're hooked on Grand Prix.

    #16 35 days ago

    The worst kept secret is Bally EMs are hot, I would go so far to say they have displaced Gottlieb in desirability, especially for younger people. A lot less of them around too, most have had the snot played out of them.
    Across the board Space Themes and Cowboy Themes would do best, JMO.

    #17 35 days ago

    Any EM that has been fully restored.

    #18 35 days ago

    So many good ones. A few not mentioned that fly under the radar. 4 Square, Drop a Card wedge heads. Really love the play and bell sounds of mid 60’s Mayfair. And mid 70’s Hokus Pokus and Super Flite getting a lot of my playing time.

    #19 34 days ago

    Hey guys, I appreciate the responses today! So far, definitely digging Christian Marche’s artwork a lot! I was familiar with several of his games. Grand Prix and Space Mission/ Odyssey are really cool. I’m drawn to the space and sci-fi themes a lot, I have to try out Target Alpha and Centegrade 37! I also love the tiki/ tropical/ surf themes, which is as sixties as it gets. And as for Bally’s being hot... before a month ago, Fireball and Captain Fantasic were probably the only EMs I could tell you by name. I knew Gottlieb was king before the solid state era but didn’t know their games. It’s always exciting to open a new chapter of exploration. So thank you for your input!

    #20 34 days ago
    Quoted from MEuRaH:

    Paragon & Joker Poker
    Paragon had so much going on. It was one of the first game I ever played. I didn't know they could be that wide and have double flippers. Seemed like so many things to hit.
    Joker Poker as well because of the uniqueness per ball. Such a great game. Though this didn't attract me to pinball the way Paragon did.

    I’m so sorry to be “that guy,” and while I love both those games as well, they aren’t EMs. They’re early solid state titles.

    #21 34 days ago

    There are lots of non pinball people that when they are at my house, they play Grand Prix non stop.

    #22 34 days ago

    I was watching some gameplay vids of Grand Prix and seeing how satisfying those spinner lanes are, I can see why. It plays fast!

    #23 34 days ago
    Quoted from Mistermoberg:

    I’m so sorry to be “that guy,” and while I love both those games as well, they aren’t EMs. They’re early solid state titles.

    I’m so sorry to be “that guy,” but Joker Poker has an EM version

    #24 34 days ago
    Quoted from phil-lee:

    The worst kept secret is Bally EMs are hot, I would go so far to say they have displaced Gottlieb in desirability, especially for younger people. A lot less of them around too, most have had the snot played out of them.
    Across the board Space Themes and Cowboy Themes would do best, JMO.

    What are most popular Bally EMs you recommend?

    #25 34 days ago
    Quoted from spinal:

    I’m so sorry to be “that guy,” but Joker Poker has an EM version

    True. I’ve actually never seen one in person, production was under 1K I think.

    #26 34 days ago

    Those Gottlieb System 1/EM crossovers are all pretty fun in EM form. People love my Cleopatra. Same rules as the SS version, but with all of the spirit an EM offers. Super snappy too, since all the coils are DC. Good risk reward strategy, and a nice color matching ruleset anyone can pickup on.

    #27 34 days ago

    Sky Jump, King of Diamonds, Royal Guard, Atlantis are all single player wedgeheads.
    2 Players I like Quick Draw, Lawman

    #28 34 days ago
    Quoted from Mistermoberg:

    True. I’ve actually never seen one in person, production was under 1K I think.

    Agree with the statement below E M version is more fun. I've been lucky enough to restore three of them.
    https://get.google.com/albumarchive/113822175696968990275/album/AF1QipM5Sa5-p8wKxM9ciV_I_cxzTt2cBVG91wxvFW4n

    #29 34 days ago

    Hi stashyboy +
    MisterMoberg (?), mbaumle , You and me (and ???) say "EM version of the early Gottlieb SS-Pins - EMs are more fun". Actually me - I never have played an EM-Version - I do have (SS) Sinbad, Solar Ride and Joker Poker. I would like to have the EM-Version - I once started this https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/add-ons-in-the-logic-of-pascal-janin-boards - hmm, not much feedback ...

    pwaka1986 : Whoever likes (many) Drop-Down-Targets likes Gottlieb pins. My favorite is Far Out https://www.ipdb.org/machine.cgi?id=823 - also very good are Big Indian https://www.ipdb.org/machine.cgi?id=257 and Surf Champ https://www.ipdb.org/machine.cgi?id=2459 (and more). I happen to like also Spinning Targets and Vary-Targets so I like to play Orbit https://www.ipdb.org/machine.cgi?id=1724 .
    In the early days there were the two-inch-flipperbat pins --- Shangri La https://www.ipdb.org/machine.cgi?id=2110 - Pit Stop https://www.ipdb.org/machine.cgi?id=1806 --- I actually have played in the early 1970ies the Ice Revue https://www.ipdb.org/machine.cgi?id=1262 (with the slot in the lower right corner in the playfield to count played balls, now and then, for fun play an 2 balls or 3 balls "multiball" https://www.ipdb.org/showpic.pl?id=1262&picno=1202 )

    Zipper Flippers are fun - mostly Bally-Pins. If You dont expect "having a regular Bonus-Ladder" then Royal Flush http://www.pinrepair.com/ is a very good pin. A classic Williams is Space Mission https://www.ipdb.org/machine.cgi?id=2253 --- how about "Roto Targets" - Liberty Belle https://www.ipdb.org/machine.cgi?id=1438 .

    Here http://www.pinrepair.com/ to Gottlieb Pinball Evolution and Williams Game Evolution - stuff to look at, read.

    Play as many EMs as possible - some are soso - some You will really like. Greetings Rolf

    #30 34 days ago

    I learned how to play on Aladdin's Castle. Any EM with a spinner is a hoot. The clicking noise of the score wheel and the chimes trying to keep up is an extremely satisfying sound.

    My guests have always gravitated towards Space Odyssey. They love the swinging target and get really into it, even if it's mostly just them trying to catch the ball and feed it into the kickers.

    Old Chicago has been very popular at our league

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