I was over at spybryon's house rebuilding flippers with him, and noticed he sorely needs new flipper return frames.

Do you have ball hop in your Embryon at all? Take a close look at your flipper return frames and see how smooth the top edge is... I have gone through all my machines and I've purchased new frames from Cliffy to get the smoothest play possible.

If you'd like a new set, please post here, and PM me. thanks!

I'd like to put a pre-order list together and help arrange to get a new set built by Cliffy who lives near me.

thanks!
-mof

Thanks mof! Sign me up...

Also, pinside user EEE would like to be on the list.

Ok, good. That's three. Who else would like new flipper return frames?
-mof

I would like a set please!

Good News EMBRYON Fans....New CPR Plastics Coming Soon!

I hope the plastic set comes with an awesome topper!

Now setup a kickstarter so we can all kick in for that drum sander so we can get widebody playfields!

Or the Embryon backglass would be swell as well.

As always thanks to Stu and CPR.

No Topper, I'm not doing the artwork....

That is great news.

CPR rocks!
Thanks Stu

Hi
my game is missing the plastic to the left of the upper rollovers right as the ball would pass the one way gate from the spinner shot. If someone could scan that plastic so that I can make a new one that would be awesome.

Many thanks
Clive

With the new CPR plastics coming out, you can probably wait and get a decent used one from someone on here. If you're not in a time crunch.

Awesome Stu! Thank you so much.

SWEET! For a low production game (~2250) this game sure has been receiving a lot of attention lately. The back glass I'd love to see a repro done!

Stu, whos doing the artwork on this one?

That's because it's a kick ass game...

Yup and im happy to own one!

Quick manual reference question. My electronic version does not have the full schematic.

Which scr (ie Q__ on the lamp driver board) controls the A lane at the lower left and the Y in Embryon in the middle of the playfield.

Both of the controlled lamps are locked on and I need to replace the 2n5060, I believe.

Thanks

I'm also in the market for a backglass if someone has an extra. I don't care if it's pink, purple or blue. My purple one has the "scrambled egg" look.

LOL, sorry, didn't mean to laugh at your glass, just the way you described it made me chuckle....hope you find one in decent condition....we have new repros coming but no idea of time-frame as I'm still working on the artwork....

Yesssss thank you Stu!

AHHH THIS IS GREAT!! My BG is like a 9.5 outta 10 but always scared as hell when I have to take it out for whatever reason to work on the electronics.

Can one of you recommend the components to replace on our sound board (or elsewhere)?

Our TP3 on the sound board shows a reading of versus 14.6 the 11.5vdc spec. I suspect that components associated with this is what is causing a static sound coming from the speaker. I can also say that if I unplug the J1 connector to the Auxiliary Lamp Driver Board, the static sometimes goes away.

I have a hum that sounds like power as well, but I suspect that might be a different issue, although if I unplug the speaker completely even the power sound goes away.

Other readings I get are
MPU tp2 is 14.7 versus 11.9

Other readings are pretty close, with the various 5vdc test points all measuring approx 5.26vdc.

Thanks for any insights or suggestions.

Also replace the volume pot on the coin door. That fixed my hum and static problem in addition to a total recapping of the board.

Room for one more in the club?

I'll open up a new thread in a week or so with the restoration progress. Lots of details to clean up, but game works and plays well. (At least it did at his house!) Haven't unwrapped it yet...

-mof

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Nice mof! Eager to hear what you think of it.

I can't wait to form an opinion on this pin!

This example is a little rough, it will need ~15 hours of tough love to really get a sense of the game.

I've got it pitched, leveled, and new flipper assemblies on there, and that's it for now. It's a little creaky.

http://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/embryon-a-light-40-hour-shop-job

-mof

Twisted Pin Stencils for Embryon.
http://www.twistedpins.com/products/?ProductID=91

Can anyone vouch for this set being helpful ?

thanks!
-mof

I used one of their sets recently on a Wizard restencil and it worked just fine.

Out of curiosity, how long did you let your stencil dry before peeling it off?

In case anyone is looking for one: http://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/embryon-for-sale-tucson-az

My new Embryon, not looking so good...

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Just a flesh wound.... you can fix her!

Yikes, was that one stored outside or something?

I'm trying to get this Embryon set up for 3-ball, and three free balls at 400,000 - 700,000 - and 999,999 -- using front door adjustments 1,2,3.

I set 16 and 17 to "02" for "free ball"

I play to 400,000 and no free ball is given.

Is there some secret additional setting that must go along with setting 16 and 17?

The card I have is for 400,000 and 700,000 and I was hoping that I could translate the replay at those levels into free-balls ?

I guess I can go try a game with the glass off and see if it's giving the free game at 700,000.

-mof

I think you have done it correctly. I have my machine set almost the same, 3 ball, and extra balls at 400k, 700k, and 900k and they all work fine. Have you set the actual scoring thresholds correctly via the front door adjustment (settings 01, 02, 03)? I always start with really small values so I can run them through quickly by hand with the glass off and then raise them to the final values I want.

Check dip switch 29, it turns on or off the award of a credit with reaching score thresholds, it may also control extra balls when replays are not selected.

One thing with these age of Bally's is they cannot remember multiple extra balls. If I light it by sinking the three upper right target for instance at the right time ad the extra ball light goes on and I then go over 400k, I only get the one free ball. I sometimes try to strategically lose my ball at the right time as a result.

Yes.

Not sure what you meant here -- which reminds me, how do you set the 1,2,3 scores to an exact number like 400,000. I think I had to settle for 396,380 etc...

29 eh? Where do you reckon it ought to be, I'm at work, but I figure I have it set to "on"

Really? That's very good to know.

That is definitely true. This came up just yesterday during the live Papa Circuit finals on papa tv. On Harlem Globetrotters, extra ball was turned on based on completing the GLOBE lights. It was also available by hitting all standups and collecting on the right slam dunk shot. Hilariously the games just went on forever! Those guys just kept the games going on extra balls and rolled it 2-3 times. However, extra balls could not be stacked. Only one extra ball at a time and if you earn it twice it won't stack.

At first Bowen was saying this was intentional and he wanted to see if someone would actually intentionally drain just before completing the GLOBE lights. Then he finally admitted they left EB on by accident, I was literally laughing out loud.

Has anyone tried some lighting options for Embryon?
I'm currently 100% incandescent, and would like to hear about and see some options.
To start with, cool white or warm white GI, and why? or mix/match it?
I feel like there is a lot of dark green artwork that is hard to see in the center.
-mof

7-digit displays.
Who's done and upgrade, and what's involved?
thanks!
-mof

When you first look at the scoring threshold, hit reset to make it a clean 0, then use the credit button to increment to what you want. I think Embryon counts in 10000 pt increments.

I think 29 should be on.

What I meant was to set the threshold to things like 20k, 40k, and 60k and with the glass off manually hit things to test the score threshold.

I tried some cool white GI LEDs, and on Embryon it looks pretty reasonable but eventually switched to warm white LEDs. I ultimately put in LEDs everywhere. Under the orange inserts I tried some orange LEDs but it looked overly yellow so I switched to white to preserve the orange that I liked.

I just realized I don't have current pictures but here the left and right target GI is cool white LED and the slingshot areas are warm white LEDs. The insert lights are still 555s at this point. At the top you can glimpse some red GI LEDs at the shooter area and the left top GIs are orange.

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I like your approach.

Wait, what is that lit plastic in the apron?

-mof

The lit light on the left is a common Bally credits available light. If you have credits on the machine, and the bulb works, then it is on. The one on the right side of the apron is a ball plunge from the saucer using the flipper button for a two + player games. You will seldom see it lit.