Hokus Pokus
Bally, 1975Do you mean this one? thats what i could see in the difference on pinrepair.
Also on another note, i noticed when i try and start a game, only the 2nd player 10,000 moves through the numbers 0 - 9 and back to 0. None of the other ones go through a cycle on 2nd player, and non go through on the 1st player at all. Is this information useful at all?
Lol. Not that peg. See the hook on the arm directly behind it?
It will cause the arm to engage the gear
ha ahh yes, it is working much better now....when i manually energize the coil it counts all the way down to six, may need cleaned, or new spring? I had trouble finding a spring online as well, i did learn alot today.
Quoted from mojozone:Also on another note, i noticed when i try and start a game, only the 2nd player 10,000 moves through the numbers 0 - 9 and back to 0. None of the other ones go through a cycle on 2nd player, and non go through on the 1st player at all. Is this information useful at all?
What do you guys think is causing this?
Quoted from mojozone:Do you mean this one? thats what i could see in the difference on pinrepair.
Also on another note, i noticed when i try and start a game, only the 2nd player 10,000 moves through the numbers 0 - 9 and back to 0. None of the other ones go through a cycle on 2nd player, and non go through on the 1st player at all. Is this information useful at all?
One thing you need to do is sort out one problem at a time.
I would not be too concerned with the credit unit till the game is up and running.
Quoted from Chrisbee:I would not be too concerned with the credit unit till the game is up and running.
I agree 
Now do i need to figure out how to add a credit. The reason i got on the credit reel tangent was trying to figure out how to set everything to zero. Okay, so let me review, now i should see what happens when i have everything set to zero like this? and get back on track.
Quoted from way2wyrd:For the game to kick out the ball all the score reels must be on 0 , advance unit , ball count and player count needs to be on 0 position.
so in your backglass, when you press the start button do you see player 1, ball 1, on the playfield do you see all bonus lights not lit?
if you do not see these things lets look at the unit that controlls them and make sure they are reset to 0 position.
Also on another note, i noticed when i try and start a game, only the 2nd player 10,000 moves through the numbers 0 - 9 and back to 0. None of the other ones go through a cycle on 2nd player, and non go through on the 1st player at all
Since the "Player 2" 10,000 reel is working then it is most like the drum zero switches on the reels themselves. These switches should be closed when the score drum is not at zero. Or the switches on the score reset relay, look and check that they are closes when the score reset RE is energized.
Clean and gap all switches.
Below is an example of the switches each reel has its own zero switch and each reel has a switch located on the score reset RE. also make sure the units work mechanically like you did for the dredit Stepper.
Score steppers only step in one direction. To reset they keep stepping until the zero SW. is opened.
Quoted from mojozone:Now do i need to figure out how to add a credit.
YES, step till you see 10 credits on the back glass.
I think we are losing the plot a bit. Can we start again. The VERY first thing we need to do is turn the machine off then back on. Is the GAME OVER lamp Lit? This is important, as this is like MACHINE ZERO.
If the GAME OVER lamp is NOT lit. Manually press the Game Over Trip RE., now is the Game Over lamp lit?
oooh i missed that.
Edit
Does the game over Only work manually or when you turn the game off an on does it set?
Hay Jeff, you have way more Gottlieb experience than me; have a look at this thread when you get time. Think it will be an easy fix for you. 
http://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/i-cant-find-my-problem
Here is what we have so far.
. I turn on the machine. The BG and GI lights are on.
. The BG says player 1 and ball 1.
. I can manually hit the coil on the game over relay, and now that BG says 'game over'
. I hit the credit button on the door and it cycles through the score reel, However, it only cycles through the 10,000 reel on player two. None of the other ones move. Acts like it is ready for a game, but it dosn't kick out a ball, and no switches on the playfield work.
. Credit wheel is sluggish, but it does move.
I believe that is it so far.
heres the trip coil circuit. I would look at my lock relay and make sure the switch with the Green Red (41) wire was clean.
The lock relay comes on when you turn on the game. We know it is energizing as the GI comes on
which is also controlled by the lock relay
If the Lock RE switch is all good as Jeff posted. Note this switch should be closed with the power is off.
Then there are two other switches to check.
One is on the Game Over RE. Red/Wh wire and Yellow/Black wire and the other is on the Reset Re. Yellow/Black and Red/wh wires. With the power off and the game over RE tripped, both these switches should be closed.
Once you have got this working the game over relay should work as expected. When you turn on the power the machine goes to Game Over.
Problem one solved.
Thanks guys, i will look into this. I am going to order a flexstone file today, i don't think the one that i have is doing the correct job. It might be the weekend before i get some time to work on it. I will update you when i do. Don't forget about me. 
ok on the 2 switches on the far right, that is a make break switch meaning
when one is open the other is closed
looks like the make break switch needs some adjusting.
so from far right to left when energized it should be
open
closed
open
open
closed
closed
Okay, i adjusted that relay, and still not getting anywhere over here. Do you guys have any other ideas? It seems like every relay is working, like if everyone is manual working, just not together to start a game?
~Nick
One thing i think i need to look at is when i manual energize the "outhole" relay, i do not believe that the coil is working, i pulled it out and manual hit the switch and put some metal infront of it to see if it would magnatize, and it dosn't. Can someone explain to me on how to check and see if this coil is working. I only have a poor man's volt meter, and i took a picture of it, wondering if anybody knew what i needed to have it on for settings? thanks.
One other thing when you put your DMM on Ohms ”Test the Tester”. Touch the test leads the meter should the display 0. The biggest problem with cheap meters is the leads.
If your not sure about a relay coil you can try the 9 volt battery trick?
with game off hold the 9 volt battery against the two lugs of the coil in question
if the coil holds you can bet that it's still good.
even if you have many contacts and need to help the coil close with a finger it should still hold with the battery - hope this helps some mojozone 
One more thing Nick, I’m having a safety drive on my posts just now.
I encourage you to read this thread and cover up as it suggests. We don’t want an electrifying experience here!!
http://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/mains-power-exposed-parts
Not a bad idea to check that your house has a RCD on the power circuits and test that it works.
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