It comes from the fact that some people expect to be treated like royalty because they're a CUSTOMER...as if every business is in a highly competitive arena like restaurants or retail. For most of us that understand how valuable a resource PBR and Steve Young are, we don't mind, and actually appreciate, that he talks to you honestly and doesn't kiss your ass every ten seconds...YMMV

Sean

I agree! I hadn't considered that...makes sense to me too.

Now what do you guys think about all the Williams games around the same time frame that were also named for locations...or so I previously thought: Tennesee, Virginia, Saratoga, El Paso, Phoenix, Tucson, Dallas, St. Louis, Maryland, Boston, and Georgia. I don't know my naval history as well as some do...but I know some of those were also ship names.

It's also interesting and sneaky that they would not give them naval themes, instead focusing on the geographical themes...

Sean

I'd say that is only related to those bingo/pin hybrids. More like one of Williams few trap hole games...Twenty Grand is another one that comes to mind. They were really experimenting in those days though...so much variety!

To me, the only bingopins are Hong Kong, Starlite, Disk Jockey, and Four Corners. Those have 15 trapholes each...GC gets close to that with 9, but it also doesn't have that mini-bingo card in the BG like my 4 do.

Sean

Make sure it's warm enough...Ken Layton schooled me on this recently - Evapo works much better over 60 degrees F. I tossed a whole gallon thinking it had been "played out", but it was probably just too cold in my shop(like it is in the winter) and I didn't know...c'est la vie.

Sean

Awesome Vic!! Aught-two was my first Allentown show I brought games too...GTB Ice Show and GTB Polo. Never been the same since...lol

Sean

That's right Joe! Good thing she wasn't my wife, only virtually...but then we got to have a virtual divorce too, which was way easier than a literal one usually is...lol. You and your brother, along with Dave, Gene and Vic, where some of the first "pin friends" I scored...and still the best! )

The Ice Show is still in my possession..."in service" at a friends house where he tries, somewhat futilely, to best my high score. LOL What a great game...it's still one of the fastest EMs I've played.

The Polo was sold to Tom Taylor, who still has it I believe...in his multi-player section.

This is a great point, and can also be used on other EMs people generally think suck that have different flipper arrangements. Alot of the early flipper games in the late 40s/early 50s also fit this mold - I think most folks give up too easily on most of these games.

However, the ones I speak of must be working correctly, and have the PF angle low like they were designed to have, or else they truly do stink. Unless you like rarely hitting the ball and almost constant frustration... )

Sean

That game played so nice Joe...gave me a better appreciation for this title...

Right there Alex! Every woodrail, flipperless or not, ended up being more fun than I expected...